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nacmat
on 2004-05-18 16:04 [#01194432]
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invalid vote, sorry wont count unless you correct it.
everything is explained in the first three posts
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nacmat
on 2004-05-18 16:27 [#01194484]
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56 artists still dont have a single vote
votes counted till aesthetics included
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woj
on 2004-05-18 16:36 [#01194501]
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Banco De Gaia Gescom !!! Mira Calix Arovane The Orb KLF (does they exist?) Cex Dj Shadow DHS
WE WANT 'XPLODING PLASTIX' IN THX!
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2004-05-18 17:07 [#01194578]
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1 Amon Tobin 2 Freescha 3 Casino Vs. Japan 4 Dj Shadow 5 Photek 6 Luke Vibert 7 the Orb 8 Global Goon 9 Lemon Jelly 10 Gescom
Sorry it took me so long to vote, but count me in. Nac, BTW, your setup this year is great, you have done a wonderful job, I apologize for not helping more.
Cheers friend.
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nacmat
on 2004-05-18 17:31 [#01194621]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to IronLung: #01194578
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you are not late. there is still plenty of time (till sunday) to vote
thanks to you my friend, and to all of you people who participate in this competition led by woofer and me
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-05-18 17:54 [#01194664]
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1 gescom 2 tim hecker 3 team doyobi 4 christ 5 chris clark 6 fennesz 7 phoenecia 8 florian hecker 9 richard devine 10 mira calix
where's disjecta? :(
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2004-05-18 18:47 [#01194742]
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1. Bogdan Raczynski 2. Dj Shadow 3. Mum 4. Telefon Tel Aviv 5. Photek 6. Venetian Snares
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-05-18 21:45 [#01194851]
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Less votes for Vsnares and more for Gridlock plz. thx. k. bye.
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guy
from sizzle frizzle on 2004-05-18 22:49 [#01194894]
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nice contest! I'll vote in a second... does anyone know who arthur russell is? maybe he should be in the next contest...
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guy
from sizzle frizzle on 2004-05-18 22:57 [#01194898]
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luke vibert bogdan raczynski global goon dmx krew gescom bochum welt mouse on mars two lone swordsmen monolake d-mob
I also nominate j.p. buckle for next time...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-19 01:18 [#01194943]
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mira calix 0 votes?
global goon, two lone swordsmen, nightmare on wax, passarani not qualified to Xltronic championship?
incredible results!
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-19 01:23 [#01194944]
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Iron, I hope you will enjoy this 3rd edition of Xltronic championship, and if you want to give some help... you're welcome :-D
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-19 01:29 [#01194946]
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Nacmat, for talk about this new competition we can use soulseek chat or AIM.
I've not computer at home yet, so on Saturday and Sunday I will be off. We should prepare the groups and decide the official date when Xltronic Championship 2004 will start.
I'm ready to enter inside the battle and help you to manage the game.
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 01:36 [#01194951]
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I am on soulseek now: nacmat
I have some ideas
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 02:00 [#01194981]
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this what I would do:
we will have 32 artists so we do 8 groups of 4 artists each group
how do we do this groups?
we put the artists in order of qualification: so the 12 that are already qualified go from 1 (aphex) to 12
then positions from 13 to 32 are determined by the voting we are doing now
once we have 32 artists with their numbered position from 1 to 32
I would do this:
8 leaders for 8 groups (one leader per group): these are the first 8 in last years competition:
group A)1. Aphex Twin group B)1. Autechre group C)1. Boards of Canada group D)1. squarepusher group E)1. orbital group F)1. ovuca/astrobotnia group G)1. uziq group H)1. plaid
8 vice-leaders for the 8 groups(second leader of the group):
these would be artists 9-12 from last years competition plus artists that get from 1 to 4 in this voting round:
09. f.s.o.l --------------------for group H 10. jega ---------------------for group G 11. bola ----------------------for group F 12. brothomstates-----------for group E 13 - 16: artists voted 1-4 inthis voting round
I would order them in the inverse way, so number 9 would go in the group were number 8 was, and number 12 would go to the group of number 1:
group a: 1, 16, 24 and 32 group b: 2, 15, 23, 31 group c: 3, 14, 22, 30 group d: 4, 13, 21, 29 ... ... group h: 8, 9, 17, 25
this way the most voted artists dont have to fight so soon
see, it was really important who the first 12 were last year, cos it can mean lots of problems for some top artists
from the first moment.
also the pre-stage voting will determine lots of things, as
being first in the pre stage will mean an easy group maybe,
but being the 20th will mean to be in group A with aphex
understand?
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 02:03 [#01194984]
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first league: (1/32 finals) 8 groups of 4 each----------- first two in each group go to
1/16 finals
second league: (1/16 finals) 4 groups of 4 each----------- only first in each group will
make it to the great: FINAL FOUR
FINAL FOUR: with the classical semifinals and final, if possible these will be via official xltronic polls
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korben dallas
from nz on 2004-05-19 02:27 [#01195004]
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so 1/16 finals will be these 4 groups ?:
1) best 2 of ea., A & H 2) best 2 of ea., B & G 3) best 2 of ea., C & F 4) best 2 of ea., D & E
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2004-05-19 02:29 [#01195008]
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V-Snares, here
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 02:32 [#01195012]
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probably
if not it will be by draw or maybe depending on the number of votes in the first gropus
but always the first 4 leaders will be in diferent groups
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 02:33 [#01195013]
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thats your vote? you dont vcote for more? (you have till 10)
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2004-05-19 02:39 [#01195019]
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v-snares, aphex twin, squarepusher, cylob, mum, doormouse, me.... hehehe :D, plaid, josh wink, Bogdan Raczynski, brome, lobomatic
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 02:50 [#01195028]
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read the rules in the first 6 posts
your vote is invalid
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 02:52 [#01195034]
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votes have been counted till "guy"
and the top 20 so far is as follows:
venetian snares gescom chris clark luke vibert prefuse 73 Fennesz amon tobin bodgan razcynski Richard Devine team doyobi dj shadow Arovane gridlock kraftwerk LFO Phoenecia four tet the books cylob philip jeck
YOU CAN STILL VOTE! VOTING WILL BE POSSIBLE TILL SUNDAY NIGHT.
NEXT WEEK THE REAL COMPETITION STARTS WITH THE BEST 32 ELECTRONICA ARTISTS
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 03:11 [#01195053]
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WOW the books is in top 20 with only 3 people voting for them/him/her
which shows that this way of voting gives too much importance to the order in which you vote:
two lord swordmen: 4 people voted for them... they are in 89th position
the books: 3 people voted for them... they are in top 20, qualified
next year there wont be such a diference between first and tenth choice of votes
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-19 03:30 [#01195085]
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agree, we should avoid this situtation next year.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-19 03:36 [#01195096]
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I never listened anything by fennesz
I don't know who are gridlock, the books and philip jeck. ...And they're all temporary qualified to Xltronic Championship.
What's happening to big names as Mira Calix, Two Lone Swordsmen, Nightmare on Wax, Bochum Welt, Drexcya, Marco Passarani, D'Arcangelo, Bany Ford, Mouse on Mars, etc...?!? They're all out of the race, I'm surprised...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-19 03:38 [#01195100]
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once you'll get to know philip jeck or gridlock you won't be thinking this anymore...mira calix is nothing compared to them :)
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 03:40 [#01195103]
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good thing about this way of vote counting:
lots of surprises
doubtful thing:
it gives more importance to an artist voted 2 times in first place than to an artist voted 15 times in 7th place (which means that 15 people think it should be in top 10)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-05-19 03:40 [#01195104]
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Prefuse 73 Dj Shadow Kim Hiortøy Team Doyobi Nighmares on wax
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-19 03:41 [#01195106]
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if more people would have voted im sure your system would have worked out normally...
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 03:59 [#01195134]
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normally we get about 50 people voting... and we are near that number... so everything is going fine
its impossible to get like 200 people voting, cos many people dont like these things, or are just too lazy to look at the list and decide a vote...
my experience from last 2 editions is that about 50 people will in this round (maybe more this year anyway) and about 30 people will vote in each of the groups in next round
then in the semifinals and final a bout 50 poeple will vote in each
but those are good enough numbers
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-19 04:02 [#01195137]
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i see...but there were +1000 less members signed up in the last two editions...ah well...
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 04:05 [#01195139]
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53 people have already voted... we are doing great!!!
and this is still open till sunday... so some regulars that havent still voted due to work can do it in the weekend
maybe we get to 70 votes or so... and that would be a record of participation for sure
so far the last qualified artist (the one in position number 20) has 25 points, I guess at the end 30-40 points will be the barrier for qualification and that means lots of votes or 4 or 5 people voting that artist in first place... so it will be earned anyway
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 04:07 [#01195143]
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that doesnt matter... the number of regulars is about the same... you cans ee that from people voting in the polls
polls are there for a week or so... and normally they get like 150-200 votes
so that leads me to think that the real number of regulars in this MB is around 200
but we cannot expect 200 votes, cos many people find this too complicated or just dont care at all
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 04:08 [#01195144]
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VOTE!
READ THE FIRST THREE OR FOUR POSTS TO KNOW HOW TO PARTICIPATE
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-19 04:09 [#01195146]
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i see...you're very well informed :-)
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 04:13 [#01195150]
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woofer and nacmat are the statsmen
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-19 04:13 [#01195152]
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nacmat, in the last championship2003 the single group battle was 24 hours long, what we can do for this new edition? 1 day for group, 2 day, what you suggest?
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 04:15 [#01195153]
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HOW DO I VOTE?
you can vote to 10 artists maximum. vote in order of preference cos the first gets more points,
it goes like this:
first choice: 10 points second: 8 points third: 6 points 4th: 4 points 5th: 3 points 6th: 2 points 7th: 1 point 8th: 1 point 9th: 1 point 10th: 1 point
VOTES THAT WILL NOT COUNT:
people who vote for more than 10 artists (in this case we will just count the first 10)
people who vote for artists not in the list (in this case no
vote will be counted, doesnt matter if only one of the 10 was not in the list, why? cos I dont wanna go crazy searching for artists that are not in the list)
if you vote for an alias that is in the list under another alias I wont count that vote, reason? the same, I dont wanna
go crazy
is just a matter of making things eaiser for me, so thanks in advance for colaborating
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 04:16 [#01195155]
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LIST OF ARTISTS YOU CAN VOTE TO:
PART 1:
310 !!! 2 unlimited 4 Hero 808 State a guy called gerald Alder & Elius Alog amon tobim anthony rother Aoki Takamasa Apparat Arovane Baby Ford Banco de Gaia Ben Milstein bent biosphere Bochum Welt bodgan razcynski bomb the bass boulderdash capitol k casino versus japan Cathode cex chris clarck christ CiM Claro Intellecto Clint Mansell Coh Coil crunch cubic 22 cylob d mob Dabrye Daedelus D'Arcangelo Datach'i David Holmes dDamage dhs Dialect digital orgasm dj /rupture dj scud dj shadow DMX crew donato wharton doormouse double trouble & the rebel mc Drexcya earth leakage trip eon Esem EU Farmers Manual Fennesz fibla Fingernail Florian Hecker four tet frank bretschnider freeform freescha funkstorung General Magic gescom gimmik global goon gridlock gto/tricky disco guru josh H>ost hauschka helios Hrvatski Icarus isan Jamie Liddell jan jelinek Jim O'Rourke JIMI TENOR jimmy edgar joseph nothing kettel kevin drumm kid 606 Kim Hiorthøy
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 04:17 [#01195157]
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LIST OF ARTISTS YOU CAN VOTE TO:
PART 2:
klf kraftwerk krush kylian Lackluster leafcutter john Leila lemon jelly leo anibaldi Lexaunculpt LFO lory d luke vibert machine drum mantronix manual marumari Matmos Matthew Herbert max richter Meat Beat Manifesto merzbow metamatics Mike Dred Mira Calix monolake Mouse on Mars MuM murcof nautilis nightmares on wax Nobukazu Takemura Noriko Tujiko ochre opiate osymyso Oval pan sonic Passarani patrick o'hearn patternclear Peter Rehberg philip jeck Phoenecia Phonem photek plastikman Plone pole prefuse 73 proem push button objects quantic quinoline yellow Radioactive Man red snapper renegade soundwave Req Richard Devine rob ellis rotor+ Russell Haswell seefeel shinjuku theif Sluta Leta solotempo Speedy J steve reich steve roach super_collider Susumu Yokota t99 team doyobi Telefon Tel Aviv the black dog the books the bro the orb the shamen tim hecker to roccoco rot Tom Middleton tomcats in tokyo tortoise traject two lone swordmen ulrich schnauss venetian snares Vladislav Delay Wevie Stonder Woodenspoon Yee King
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 04:20 [#01195160]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to WooferAttack: #01195152
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what do you think of 2 days per group? so that people ge the chance to vote
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-19 04:26 [#01195166]
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It would mean a very long championship (3 of July i will go on holiday [Formentera this year])
Maybe 2 days are too much... maybe it could lose a little bit of interest after the 1st day.
I remember in the previous edition, most of the votes were in the first hours then really few votes (latecomers).
Sometime "short and intense" is better too much long. Maybe I'd also ask an opinion to the voter members.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-19 04:28 [#01195168]
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"Sometime "short and intense" is better THAN too much long".
I forgot to write THAN... ;)
I'm writing too fast today...
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 04:29 [#01195170]
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totally agree
one day for each group!
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-05-19 04:31 [#01195172]
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When is the second round up?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-19 04:31 [#01195173]
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you can tell couple of days in advance when the voting for the particular group will take place, so everyone interested will vote on that day...ocourse, im sure you were thinking of doing this anyway :)
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nacmat
on 2004-05-19 04:39 [#01195181]
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MONDAY IS THE DAY FOR GROUP A
so monday morning will be the first day of next round
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-19 06:18 [#01195310]
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perfect! i can't wait to start with new championship...
c'mon ppl, xltronic need your votes! everybody give his preferencies!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-19 06:24 [#01195316]
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girls aint allowed to vote? :)
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