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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-20 04:50 [#00999074]
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think you should watch the bonus discs on the extended version, to see just how much they took from his performance on set.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-20 04:59 [#00999089]
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sounds to me like you should first actually watch the films, before coming to these conclusions..
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-12-20 14:34 [#00999640]
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"it's just utter bullshit, imo"
the same goes for all your comments in this thread.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-12-20 15:18 [#00999702]
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i'm convinced it may the greatest film of all time... at least of the big budget epic story kind...
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-12-20 15:19 [#00999703]
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zing!
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-12-20 15:21 [#00999706]
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it's been a long time since i actually cared what happened to the characters, and actually felt tension in scenes where they were in danger.
most movies it's just 'see which character dies next' and not really care. the lotr movies had more emotional impact than most of the movies i've ever seen.
i loved it.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2003-12-20 16:01 [#00999748]
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It was nice
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2003-12-20 17:24 [#00999901]
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I enjoyed it. I could have done without the half hour of smiling happy faces in the end tho.
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nacmat
on 2003-12-20 20:25 [#01000122]
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fucking great movie
incredible
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-12-20 20:46 [#01000135]
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"I could have done without the half hour of smiling happy faces in the end tho."
me too
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-20 23:34 [#01000222]
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me too
but it is a book conversion.
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nacmat
on 2003-12-21 03:28 [#01000347]
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it was neccessary it was the end of the trilogy
pjackson wanted to go back where it al begun to show how they had saved that quiet world...how all the adventure had been to protect that kind of life like in the shire... to show how god persisted at the end
to show that this people wanted to live peacefully... even though they had been fighting alltime in the last 3 years... they had been fighting for that... to go back to their nice lifes
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-21 03:30 [#01000349]
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i cant wait for king kong!!!!
i cant wait for the hobbit!!!! (hoping they can get their legal issues figured out soon)
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-12-21 04:05 [#01000367]
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peter jackson is a bitch.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-21 04:27 [#01000374]
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-21 16:43 [#01001096]
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yeah, what he said.
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nacmat
on 2003-12-21 17:37 [#01001114]
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where can I see what the new scenes were in the two towers extended dvd?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-21 17:41 [#01001116]
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in the booklet - they are asterisked to mark if theyre extended/re-edited or entirely new.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-23 17:44 [#01003611]
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took the opportunity today to watch the first & second films back to back on dvd (extended cut) & then go to the cinema to see the final film..
now, i think its time for bed.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-24 10:29 [#01004322]
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well, you already said you never saw the movies... and didn't you say you never finished the books? So how can you comment on the depth of the story if you know nothing about it?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-24 10:33 [#01004328]
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it was a fucking amazing movie though... all of them together make up probably my favorite movies... I don't know, I just got so into these, and each one is a masterpiece, with this last one finally ending it... I didn't read the ending of the return of the king, so it was cool so see how it really did end... I loved the begining, showing how Gollum turned... and the end where Frodo turned evil... it was cool how the ring was thrown in the lava really by accident... also, Shelob and just everything really, was great...
there were some really annoying guys sitting up in front of me though... during the Shelob scene, when it was really silent, the guy let out this huge scream... and then during the sad scenes he would pretend to be crying... God, I just wanted to bash his head in...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-24 10:37 [#01004332]
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precisely.
it would be like me slating war & peace.. im ashamed to say ive never read it.
there was a thing on tv the other week about lotr, and somebody criticised the book for being too simplistic in its distinction between good & evil (ie. a character is either a "goodie" or a "baddie")
i know i dont need to explain why here, but this to me is clearly the comment of somebody who hasnt even attemt to read the books..
perhaps they read a synopsis of the movies in their local newspaper.. or maybe they overheard a man talking about lotr in a noisy bar once.. maybe.. or maybe they made up their mind without knowing anything about it in the first place.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-24 10:39 [#01004333]
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i hate it when people try & ruin the experience of seeing a film for everyone else in the cinema..
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-12-24 10:56 [#01004345]
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very good movie. definately my favorite out of the three, and i liked all of them a good bit.
and, although i know it's the cliche thing to point out, i still have to mention that i could've done without so much of the hobbit gayity. i am well aware of the fact that the book makes a strong point of the close bonds between the hobbits, but it doesn't come across quite as flaming in the books.
still a truly good movie/trillogy.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-12-24 10:57 [#01004346]
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i really was expecting sam & frodo to go full blown mouth kiss on the slopes of mt. doom.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-24 11:14 [#01004359]
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lol, but the "hobbit gayity" i think is actually much more pronounced in the books. for example sam often kisses frodo's hand or kisses his forehead. they cuddle up a lot to sleep, especially towards the end of the book. and there is a kinda comical scene when Sam rescues Frodo from the tower and Frodo is completely naked. if anything, i think it was actually toned down a bit for the movie.
but on one of the DVD extras for the two towers, they mention that this is very much based on British army custom around WWII when high ranking officers often had an assistant that was extremely close to them. like smithers is to mr. Burns kinda.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-24 17:28 [#01004835]
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showing affection for someone of the same sex as you does not make you gay.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-12-24 18:33 [#01004857]
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I've seen more of these morons posting about "gay" stuff in Lotr on Imdb,it's really a typical American reaction, not understanding where the whole story came from and that it clearly doesn't imply anything sexual, ever. Not even the honest and virtuous romance and marriage between Aragorn and Lady Arwen was sexual, it was love. I know nowadays these sort of things are impossible to imagine for most of the angsty teenage world, but really this did once exist
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-24 19:36 [#01004865]
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so i watched two towers and it was quite alright, not intellectually provoking or anything. of course my remark on gollom was pretty stupid not having seen the movie, i see how they drew him pretty exactly on it, you probably cant otherwise in a real set, gollom was pretty great actually. all other performances i thought pretty poor exept frodo. but it's not really about the performances anyway. yes the battle was pretty okay imo too. from the whole film not much lingers but it was okay to sit through. might have to watch 1 again, but as it is i stand by my feeling it was pretty empty, but i was pretty drunk when i watched it so maybe that was me. i still cant see how people can think it to be the best movie ever.
of course my posts arent bullshit, since it was my honest imo.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-12-25 10:41 [#01005294]
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feckin awesome, this flick.
'nuff said.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-12-25 21:47 [#01005937]
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but then what can ever beat the intellectually provoking cartoon that is spongebob squarepants?
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-12-26 04:42 [#01006057]
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battle of bywater?
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-26 05:39 [#01006084]
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boobahs?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-26 06:06 [#01006104]
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who said Two Towers is the best movie ever? Return of the King is the best LOTR film imo... not the best film ever but definately one of the best films i've seen at the cinema.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-26 06:07 [#01006108]
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BUCKLEBERRY FERRY!!!!!!
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nacmat
on 2003-12-26 06:10 [#01006117]
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my favourite out of the three is the first one
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-12-26 07:43 [#01006156]
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Why??
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-26 07:50 [#01006167]
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in order:
1 Return of the King 2 Fellowship of the Ring 3 Two Towers
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-12-26 07:58 [#01006172]
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Same.
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rez
from here on 2003-12-26 08:43 [#01006188]
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The Fellowship Of The Ring was boring, Two Towers was really great, I find The Return Of The King mediocre (except for the special effects), though i quite enjoyed the movie. Maybe the end was the long for me. LOTR is overrated, All 3 films are in the IMDB top 10, above all the hitchcock and kubrick films (!). That's just not right.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-12-26 09:37 [#01006200]
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It's called opinion.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-12-26 10:06 [#01006202]
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I thought the third one was the best also. But I preffered the second one to the first.....so in order of favourite
1. Return of the King 2. Two Towers 3. Fellowship of the Ring
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rez
from here on 2003-12-26 10:15 [#01006204]
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1. The Two Towers 8.9 2. The Return Of The King 7.8 3. The Fellowship Of The Ring 6.0
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-12-26 12:12 [#01006247]
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1.Return Of The King / Fellowship 2.The Two Towers 3.Top Gun
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-26 15:09 [#01006368]
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well, they had the slightest hint of bullshit about them because you were expressing opinions about something you hadn't seen or read. which is a bit silly. :P
also, I think you had your opinions formed already, so the movie would have had to been MINDBLOWING to ever be able to convince you.
I don't see the point in trying to intellectualize something that's just supposed to be a good story - you either enjoy it or you don't.
I don't think these are the best films ever - far from it. but they are good films - a good story told in a competent way.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-12-26 16:33 [#01006422]
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1. fellowship of the ring 2. return of the king 3. the two towers
can't wait for the hobbit!
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big
from lsg on 2004-01-06 06:47 [#01019919]
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x-tomatic: you so understand me! :D qrter: i dont know what happened, partly it was that i saw the trailer half a year before the first and thought: wow, this is gonna be the best movie ever, really, i like scifi and startrek.. partly it'll be stupid me not liking that it got so popular. if it hadnt been id would have emphasized the good things in it instead of the bad ones.
anywho: i now saw the last one, and thought it was soso, i couldnt be bothered to much with all the fights anymore, did have some more emotional depth with them hugging eachother and stuff, that was sweet. i like two towers best then. just like the second, fifth star wars, empire strikes back, maybe it's the darkest one too.
bye now,
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-06 06:51 [#01019925]
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took my little cousin to see it at the weekend. was the second time id seen it. think i enjoyed it more. the little things id felt let down by the first time seemed to fit more comfortably.
after all, its someone elses interpretation of the story.. not mine.
else id have made billions of dollars, not peter jackson.
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big
from lsg on 2004-01-06 07:06 [#01019965]
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ive seen enough of it for now, for a while.. :)
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big
from lsg on 2004-01-06 07:07 [#01019972]
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oh, that's right, my father likes the book and doubts wether he should see the flick, i said that'd be okay
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