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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-11 14:28 [#01952404]
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I'm compelled to ask, why would you give the benefit of the
doubt to a bunch of strangers whose goal was to commit suicide by blowing up themselves along with thousands of innocents, women and children included?
I'm not really giving them the benefit of the doubt..
I think it's reasonable to give the IDEA that they're islamist terrorists the benefit of the doubt, as opposed to taking into account every possibility: that they're Real IRA/Eire32 terrorists, that they're terrorists trying to bring down the english monarch, etc etc. I think we can safely conclude that they're doing this because of what they see as persecution of and violence against the muslim people (their muslim "brothers") over the past century.
Apparently some of those arrested were of pakistani origin or heritage. So I think it's an absolutely safe assumption.
So, I'll rephrase what i've been saying - we need to examine and validate the grievances that've led the way to the creation of this ideology of islamist violence against the western world, to which these guys obviously subscribe.
Have I satisfied you? Sorry if I haven't, but bear with me here.
And no, I'm not a terrorist apologist or sympathiser.. I just think it's worthwhile trying to understand where people are coming from in order to bang out a solution.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2006-08-11 18:52 [#01952497]
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That's one of the best avatars I've seen here Redrum.
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-14 02:32 [#01953626]
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yup. iraq is the new terror-recruiting buzzword.
funny though - iraq has been ruined by terrorism (of many different types - anti-occupation as well as loads of factional fighting) and yet radicals become terrorists because of it.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-08-14 06:16 [#01953681]
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bah, im not gonna both sorting through all of these right now, but i like to add my two cents:
increased security will never prevent "terrorist" attacks because the terrorists dont break the rules: they find ways around them.
with 9-11, they did nothing illegal until the actual hijacking of the plane, they used entirely legal boxcutters as weapons.
same with this. there was nothing being snuck on the plane illegaly, just seperate gels which could be combined to create an explosive.
to somewhat quote jeff goldblum in jurassic park, no matter how hard you try, the terrorists will find a way. they dont break the rules, they find ways around them and exploit them. loop holes. tighter security only means next they will be smuggling explosive nonmetallic bombs in their asses or something. you cant stop it.
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daLO
on 2006-08-15 17:20 [#01954631]
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born perminate tan , nobody wanna battle this man , like iran ive been devoloping plans , murdering jews with thoughts , wandering how much money they got , only time will tell , while counting bodys of childern among hell , release sceams wishing it was just dreams , life goes on its a sick thing more wars more death , build up armys shock and aww rep , transforms nations into ah 1984 mess , no freedoms of express ,whats next being watched as you undress , make it illegal to have sex , all tube babies made to be perfect
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Peace
from Australia on 2006-08-15 19:44 [#01954756]
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Religion is gayer than a sack of dicks on christmas morning.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-15 20:00 [#01954776]
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the more the time passes, the timing of this and blairs holiday is fucking ridiculous. when was the last headline with blair in it? fucksake this is a sham. someone buy a soapbox.
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2006-08-15 20:03 [#01954781]
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from now on you may only speak in rhyme
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daLO
on 2006-08-15 20:03 [#01954783]
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yo shut your mouth bitch
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2006-08-15 20:06 [#01954785]
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Terrorists will learn martial arts and will be able to hijack a plane with their bare hands. they'll do some fancy jet lee shit and kill a bunch of people with their mighty kicks then karate chop their way into the cockpit then cartwheel that plane right into the U.S of A like a throwing star. If done correctly, no can defense!
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2006-08-15 20:08 [#01954788]
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or i'll bury you in a ditch? c'mon homie
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daLO
on 2006-08-15 20:12 [#01954790]
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yeah i dont care he alright sometimes i take nothing and no one on here series
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2006-08-16 05:21 [#01955048]
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This is such bullshit. None of the alleged terrotists had made a bomb or bought plane tickets and many didn't have passports. The supposed bomb plot was revealed via the interrogation in Pakistan of a guy who fled Britain years ago after his uncle was murdered. I we supposed to go on evidence from likely torture?!
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sneakattack
on 2006-08-16 05:45 [#01955064]
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Fucking shit flying in the US is even MORE miserable now, everyone in the damned airport looks more uptight than you lot, and airport employees are cunting for not good reason at all.
luckily I've not heard anyone say "TERR"
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sneakattack
on 2006-08-16 05:59 [#01955083]
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holy shit random searches? what the fuck is this? I guess they only did it because the woman is black. I'm probably next.
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sneakattack
on 2006-08-16 06:00 [#01955084]
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I assume you inferred from the previous post that I am a black woman. YOU ARE CORRECT the cover is blown! shit.
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sneakattack
on 2006-08-16 06:01 [#01955086]
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hahaha I totally called it.
now they are tearing apart a lunch bag that someone left
SHIT MY PLANE IS BOARDING
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2006-08-16 06:04 [#01955088]
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some kid snucked on a plane! get in sneaky kid! i bet it was sneakattack being sneaky!
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-08-16 17:50 [#01955391]
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Terrorist are now planning on smuggling bombs hidden in their anus using 20, and 30 something blonde and burnett attractive women.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-16 18:08 [#01955397]
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