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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-05-10 14:18 [#01896455]
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redrum, I bet you don't know what videogames are either. I bet you haven't played with a serious game as well. So, you cannot come here to say they are just a waste of time without being quite expert on the topic. As a non-fun of videogames, you can't also know what an E3 means for us.
Also, I fully second what qrter said.
or better yet, keep commenting every other time tridenti
says something that annoys you, a much better way to spend your time
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-05-10 14:40 [#01896473]
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i bet he knows, mate
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-05-10 17:10 [#01896591]
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Of course no moniters compare to a huge hdtv, but even if you own an HDTV you can still use it as a monitor. If you don't own a computer or a laptop then xbox and psp would be the way to go. However you said that there was no way 360 would be obsolete, but i can see some points that would say otherwise.
-Only comes with a 20 gig harddrive. 14gig of which is useable. Thats only 4 more gigs than my second gen ipod and I have no problem filling that baby up with mp3s alone. So right there, the storage it comes with is obsolete.
-Bluetooth technology. Xbox doesn't have it, ps3 will. Microsoft says they might sell an add on to run bluetooth. This hasn't been confirmed. Even if they did do that its just more $$$ you could have used on upgrading your existing computer.
-WiFi sold seperately. Pay another $100. DS lite will only be $140 and it comes with wifi built in. Microsoft sure is greedy. Seems after you upgrade everything to what it should be you'll have spent about $800 not including games.
-(taken from wikipedia): However there are also [xbox] games that do not perform well in [xbox360] emulation; these often exhibit a lower framerate on the Xbox 360. Some suffer from bad coding, which have random quirks appear in the game. (e.g., Imprinting of the screen on Halo 2, the constant moving of Star Wars: Battlefront 2.)
Backwards compatability is a gamble with your old games. Lovely.
-512 mb ram. Not bad but i have 1gig of ram in my pc.
-12x dvd rom drive no burner. I have a 16x reader/4x burner on mine that came with the PC. Obsolete.
-3 usb ports. Maybe you wont need more than 3, but I use 3 right now and I have 2 more slots available. I also have 3 firewire ports which are way better than usb anyways.
-Made by microsoft. Get used to seeing this.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-05-10 17:24 [#01896602]
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My stance on Sony is meh. Way better than microsoft but still not that impressed, especially at what price they are introducing it at. I'll probably pick one up when it drops to less than $200.
You say you don't like the selection of games, and that you don't play online...
I do like the selection of games and I wish I could play it online. I'm just dissapointed that most of the games for the PS2 have no online capabilities. Not to mention the controller could have been made to be way more ergonomic but its still clunky and wierd to hold, imo.
rather than basically say something akin to ''people only buy the PS2 and its games because they're sheep''
I think you missed my point. If I said that then I'd be calling myself a sheep. I'm just saying that there is a huge part of the market out there that ARE sheep or just have money to burn and companies know this. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo all know this. So they all use gimmicks and fancy commercials and pre-rendered demo's to sell their shit. Thats all i'm saying. And people fall for it. Like that demo of Halo they've been showing on G4. Not only is it cheesy, boring and put together kinda half assed to make it 'dramatic' but after they show it they specifically say its not an actual game demo just a rendered movie. But the whole time you can hear noobs in the audience cheering for it and shit while its playing.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-10 17:25 [#01896604]
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-Only comes with a 20 gig harddrive. 14gig of which is useable.
Fair point, but to be honest, this is pretty negligible. Most people (me included) that want to get music or other media on their Xbox stream it from their PCs, it's simple and takes no space on the Xbox hard drive at all. Few users will actually need 20gigs.
-(taken from wikipedia): However there are also [xbox] games
that do not perform well in [xbox360] emulation
Overstated, and I'm one that uses the backward compatibility a lot. I haven't had a problem emulation since the first month, other than Thief- Deadly Shadows, which has framerate drops. It's always being updated... maybe Thief works fine now, I dunno. All the games barring that one that I want to play run better than ever, in 1080i with no framerate issues at all.
-512 mb ram. Not bad but i have 1gig of ram in my pc.
Come on, you can't compare console specs to PC specs, it doesn't work that way. The PS2 had, what, 32MB of ram? Try getting Metal Gear Solid 3 to run on a 333mhz CPU with 32MB of ram. 512 for a dedicated gaming console is a LOT of ram.
You're right about the CD-ROM, USB, Blue Tooth, miscellanea stuff, no argument there. The Xbox isn't a good option to be an all-encompassing machine. MS markets it as such, which is stupid of them. But the most important thing is games, we're talking games here, the meat of the issue. Show me a game coming out in the near future that won't run on Xbox 360. Show me something that will render it obsolete in ''6 months''.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-05-10 17:27 [#01896605]
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But don't be brainwashed... there are always going to be tons of little ''art-house'' games that don't get attention at shows like this. ... If anyone's buying into the graphics/flashiness media blitz, it's you, not Sony gamers.
You can't seem to look past the hype and realize that there's much more to it than that, even if the media doesn't
make a big deal about it.
lol? The 'art-house' games like Colussus and Katmari are some of my favorites. I know there's more to E3 than the hype, but seriously thats what they are trying to do there with everything. They sell their games with sex and fancy graphics and of course guys will fall for it. Yeah theres some 3rd party stuff that will be awesome and no one will know it for quite some time. I'm not falling for anything.
I'm not buying this nintendo hype either like you think and I'll definately wait till i try the Wii before deciding if its something I'll want to spend money on.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-10 17:32 [#01896607]
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Speaking of GAMES, THAT YOU PLAY, the more I read about Assassin's Creed, the wickeder it sounds. From 1up- (this will boost up my Thoughest Poster ranking)
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You play as an assassin sent in to kill with utmost precision and agility.
What's new for E3:This is the first time we've seen Assassin's Creed running on actual PlayStation 3 hardware. The demo includes one large town and already features a surprising amount of gameplay mechanics.
What we like:The second you lay your eyes on Assassin's Creed, you will immediately say, "this is next-generation." Not only does the game look incredible, but it's gameplay and all that it encompasses are things that just simply couldn't be achieved with current generation hardware--at least not in such high quality. The demo starts with the assassin riding his horse, which is the primary transportation in Assassin's Creed. Once in town, you'll see just how much effort the Prince of Persia team has put into this game--it's about as close to a living, breathing world. The townspeople go about their business, living their lives and won't take much notice of you, that is, until you start acting weird.
The cool thing about Assasin's Creed is that there isn't really any stealth in the typical sense. You don't hide behind crates or lurk in the shadows. Instead, you just want to blend in with the crowd as much as possible. So, if a group of people see you perched on one of the many planks on the rooftop, they'll look at you in a quizzical manner and become much more aware of your presence. Likewise, if you run through the streets and just start shoving people around, then there's a much greater chance that some town guards will interfere with your plans.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-10 17:33 [#01896608]
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Even cooler than that is how the main character interacts with everything. If you try to run through a crowd, you'll notice that it's not much different from playing a game of football, where you bounce off of bodies, juke, or perform any other sort of moves to avoid slowing your speed. Everything feels like it has weight and momentum behind it, and it looks and feels absolutely great.
On top of that, some of your missions will help you blend in more with the crowd. We saw the Assassin fold his hands in prayer and start marching with some monks, masking his approach to the target. And since you had previously performed a mission for the monks, they're not bothered by your presence. But, of course, the most important thing is actually spotting the target, and to do that it's best to climb to the rooftops. This is where Assassin's Creed gets even cooler. You can climb on just about any edifice that has ledges that are two inches or larger, and the controls for this feature are pretty intuitive with each face button representing the assassin's individual limbs. Once you get to the rooftops, you can use your eagle vision to single out your target and then go in for the kill. It should also be noted that you can avoid all of this and just run up to the target and go in for the kill, but your chances of success are significantly reduced, and you will be forced into hand-to-hand combat, which also looks rather impressive.
What we dislike: While there is the usual assortment of hiccups and bugs associated with software this early, there really isn't anything to dislike. Plus, the development team has eight more months to add any polish it wants.
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The climbing mechanics sound awesome.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-10 17:36 [#01896609]
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Reasonable. But you didn't even HINT at having one iota of objectiveness in your first post. It was like Maddox Mission. I see where you're coming from now, cool.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-05-10 17:40 [#01896610]
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Lol, my bad.
Wtf is maddox mission?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-10 17:50 [#01896620]
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It's that guy with the ''humor'' site that just bashes stuff. That's it, he just bashes stuff. He also uses white text on a black background... very rotten man.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-05-10 18:06 [#01896626]
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Lol. You know you like Maddox. And its grey text!
He's only angry because he has too much testosterone and it comes out in the form of hair all over his body. Kinda like me.
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optimus prime
on 2006-05-10 18:46 [#01896639]
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persona 3, possibly my most anticipated rpg ever, is confirmed for north american release. i just need a date.
1. super mario galaxy 2. persona 3 3. new 2d castlevania
those make the show for me (because i'm going to wait to watch the mgs4 trailer on a better screen).
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-10 19:48 [#01896670]
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What do you mean, ''better screen''?
My most wanted Wii game is Resident Evil, even though I'm not sure what it is yet. I'll pee if it's built on the RE4 engine. Only thing that disapointed me about the Wii is no Smash Brothers (yet?). I wanted to see how brawler gameplay mechanics work on that thing.
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optimus prime
on 2006-05-10 20:02 [#01896677]
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by better screen i mean a computer that can run videos without skipping. didn't want to seem too pathetic. :p
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optimus prime
on 2006-05-10 20:38 [#01896684]
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i guess you're not disappointed, then? since smash bros. was announced with solid snake as a playable character.
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optimus prime
on 2006-05-10 20:49 [#01896685]
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again, nintendo conquers e3.
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-05-10 21:03 [#01896686]
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Oh sweet! Pit!
If they have a kid icarus game, I will <3.
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optimus prime
on 2006-05-10 21:09 [#01896687]
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high res screens are now available everywhere and pit looks amazing. if they brought him back for smash bros. then there's real hope for a new kid icarus.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-05-10 21:43 [#01896690]
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They're hanging out at Wii because there's been a dearth of information on the system before E3, is my guess. Not to mention, based on polls I'd say a good portion of their fanbase are Nintendo fans.
Joystiq does like page hits, as it brings revenues. As such, they print what they and their readers are seeking. Frankly, I don't care about Ratchet and Clank for the PSP, but SSB:B is breaking news, and more than worthy of the site.
Third, they're at the event, and I'd go and write on what I was interested in if I were them. So if Wii is up their alley, so be it. It isn't like they haven't been harsh on the system and games, I've been glad they've been brutally honest with their appraisals, especially when some games (*ehem*Sports*ehem*) appear to be little more than quirky tech demos.
Lastly, E3 is the first time the world has really gotten its hands on a Wii-mote. I'm sucking up details like a sponge, and glad to read everyone's views on it. There's still two days to hit everything else.
Thanks Ophecks, keep it coming.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-10 23:55 [#01896706]
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I get to be Solid fucking Snake in a fighting game? Oh now that is so random and so bling. Young hot Snake, not old decaying Snake. And Uematsu doing the music, that's awesome.
Solid Snake = megaton
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-11 00:01 [#01896707]
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Their Japanese site is having a poll to let people fill in the remaining roster, but I can't read Japanese. Why the fuck doesn't everybody just speak English in this day and age? Cripes.
Anyway, hot.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-11 00:20 [#01896709]
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Haha
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-11 00:24 [#01896716]
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They'd be really foolish to not make another Kid Icarus game. A controller designed for use in 3D space + a character with wings = yes. I want orchestral versions of Hip Tanaka's original swingin' soundtrack.
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optimus prime
on 2006-05-11 00:49 [#01896723]
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have you seen the trailer?
this is so random and unexpected and hilarious and awesomeness. samus sans suit is looking pretty badass as well. i hope there's more surprises all around before e3 officially ends.
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Vader
from € Lisbon, PT on 2006-05-11 06:49 [#01896805]
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That trailer is nuts, major lol at Wario atomicfart, I didn't see that coming at all, then Snake appears :D
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2006-05-11 10:00 [#01896909]
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Holy shit. Smash Brothers looks insane. Mario Galaxy looks insane! Zelda. Metroid. And that's just the Wii. The DS is a whole other beast.
Great E3 so far. PS3 $600.00 - HA good one Sony. X360: Halo 3, Live anywhere. Cool stuff.
I think my favorite game announced is Super Paper Mario though. It looks totally nuts.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-05-11 10:01 [#01896910]
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Word to that mate. I'm fucking excited.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2006-05-11 10:03 [#01896911]
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woah, didn't know that you were a gaming-fan...
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-05-11 10:25 [#01896914]
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the "v" stands for "video" and the "lari" stands for "glarime" which is norse for "game".
Anyway, I thought Gran Turismo was a pointless and underwhelming, to
be honest... it was literally just GT4 in HD. I think that was a bad omen for the Sony conference. I have no doubt that
the final product will be awesome, but why show an enhanced PS2 game to break the ice at a PS3 conference? I don't get it... and I think the crowd was pretty unimpressed, too.
The game I was most disapointed to not see/hear anything about... the new Devil May Cry.
And the price is indeed depressing. Doesn't matter much to me though, I'll pay.
Other games I'm looking forward to- Alan Wake on Xbox 360. I'm not even sure what kind of game it is, but it looks like
some kind of nice moody adventure in the Silent Hill mold. A
Resident Evil game was announced for Wii yesterday, that's worth making a fuss over... actually, that's my most anticipated game for Wii, not Mario or Zelda. I'm hoping for
a souped up RE4. I'm not a big fan of the Wii-mote, but it will shine the most for games like RE.
Here's the full-length Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer, a robust 15 minutes. This
is what next-gen gaming is all about, for me. I want gaming to advance as an art, first and foremost, input devices are the least of gaming's problems... games play fine, it's the artistic aspects that need to be advanced. This game is going to be an experience.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-05-11 10:26 [#01896915]
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* thoughest *
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-05-11 16:21 [#01897144]
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where is this demo vid?
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optimus prime
on 2006-05-11 20:01 [#01897234]
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here you go.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2006-05-12 12:29 [#01897663]
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HAHAH! PWN
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-05-12 15:17 [#01897757]
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jesus, the word "wii-mote" just physically made my skin crawl..
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2006-05-12 15:20 [#01897759]
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wii-mote
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-05-12 15:28 [#01897761]
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can we now call it the wiivolution?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-12 15:40 [#01897762]
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-12 15:41 [#01897763]
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Caving in a prostitute's head with a baseball bat will never be more immersive. I kind of hope they Wii gets a GTA.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-05-12 15:43 [#01897764]
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yeah, Microsoft is really going to let that happen.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-05-12 15:49 [#01897770]
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I'll make a site one day...
Wiikipedia.it
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-05-12 15:51 [#01897772]
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and it'll be all about how a small part of the world population embraced corporate rebranding.. aww..
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-12 16:13 [#01897775]
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Only Sony and Microsoft use calculating business acumen, not Nintendo, never Nintendo.
Mature Mario will knock some sense into you.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2006-05-12 19:42 [#01897830]
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Does anyone know why they aren't making Messiah 2? It was one of the best ideas in game history and they blew the engine so badly in the first part. Even a remake with current-gen graphics would be great.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-05-12 19:51 [#01897835]
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i love computer games but since deus ex, everything else pales in comparison.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2006-05-12 20:21 [#01897843]
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I loved the second part, but I havent played the original.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-12 20:42 [#01897845]
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Invisible War's not a bad game but Deus Ex is soooo much better.
Although tossing dead bodies around in Invisible War is soooo much fun.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-05-12 21:16 [#01897854]
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thanks for the linkage.
Ophecks, where on earth did you get that mario pic!? I love it!
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-05-12 21:17 [#01897855]
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The first one is amazingly good. Go get it, you won't regret it.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-12 21:47 [#01897860]
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From my Super Mario Bros. picture folder. Sorry, dunno its origins though, I just saved it from some random topic on IGN. It's pretty neat.
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