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wait, you aren't black, are you? because im afraid i won't speak to you again if you happen to be black. |
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that's a silly question. you'd be on a hip hop board then. and melvins most likely wouldn't be your favourite band :D |
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dude it was a joke shit i guess i just have a skewed outlook, all my black friends muck about make racist jokes at me(cracker) ,they call me coon or nigger. it doesnt offend me , i know it doesent offend them because thier the ones making the jokes prime example me and my best mate mike were racing to the shop and he shouts to me "You'll never win man, you know us black people are better at sports than you" he see's no offence in taking the mick out of a racial setreo type and i dont see the harm. i dont really make racist jokes at him or anything but hes not really bothered about it i think you should have more mental strength in order to not be so offended by words which frankly i hear 24/7 and not form white people from fucking rap music. and lets face rap is rammed down everyones throat if u listen to radio 1 or watch mtv |
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the problem that most of you are missing is the simple fact that "two wrongs don't make a right". just because there are certain people of all races making racist comments or stereotypes doesn't mean it's ok for you to do. that should be well fucking obvious as most of us here are not little kids. now i'm not even suggesting that there should be any sort of censorship. i'm just saying think before you say something. be aware that to different people (and we on this board are all from different countries and different cultures), racist words will have different effects. so you may want to think twice before using a racial slur as you can't be sure how it will be taken. |
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i would really like to have african friend. preferably a female :) |
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makosi :(((((((((( sorry wathed way to much big bro |
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it's insane to think there are people on this eart who are actually concerned with the colour of one persons skin. i guess that isn't so in the states, but overhere we don't see any harm in racist jokes because we don't see the problem like americans do. we don't say you're black, you're white..hence, we can deal with it with humour. i suppose we will have to be more cereful about what we say in the future. i've been told many times that i don't know when to stop joking about something, but that's just the way i am. i would never want to offend someone though. |
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you said exactly what i meant to and far more elequantly one is most grateful ;) |
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excellent. on a side note, i couldn't take you seriously even if you told me to fcuk off and die..especially not with your old avatar. you're one of my favourite ppl on board, as i laugh to (alomst) every post you make :) |
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Official Nominated for Most Boring Thread of the Year 2005 |
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thanks dude i have much respect for you and its quite nice to know considering the majority of people on this board detest me :S word |
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ive decided this thread needs a theme tune so here it is :) |
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you have totally missed the point. let me recap for you what happened: a bunch of white guys sat around making jokes about "niggers". a black guy took offense (for some craaaaazy reason - i can't imagine whyyyyyy) and went, hold on, that's not cool. then he was called a nigger by more white guys and his thread was closed. then a bunch of people went, "oh, really? you don't like that word? well, gee... let's come up with excuses for using racist terms because we've been caught! tee hee!" and perhaps sincere apologies followed but still some people couldn't understand why anyone would think that a racist term actually implied racism! |
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oh go on, listen to it, i garuntee it will make you smile :) |
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i don't recall seeing that poll. |
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just the impression i get sometimes but seriously in the intrest of racial harmony |
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you didn't even get any votes in the "most hated member" thread! |
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:) |
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the most hated thread? lol missed that |
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see :D <3 |
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and i was wrong how? :) seriously though. i know i have a problem with being selfish (i told you about this before didn't i) and i always see things from my perspective. i should sometimes put myself into other people position and try and understand how they see things.. |
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Two grains of salt meet each other on the way down to some french fries. All the other grains of salt are in a state of panic but not these two salts, who are contented with their fate. As a grain of salt, your ultimate destiny is to be tossed onto some food; this is the way of the condiment. Time passes much slower for salt than for man. Every man second is at least 5 minutes for salt. As these two grains are falling they look around with their little salty eyes at their panic stricken companions. While the rest of the salting community are worried by this mighty fall, these two unique salts are contemplating their strategy for when they meet their arch enemy: PEPPER. Luckily for some salts: there are humans who do not put pepper on their food, unlucky for others: there are humans who DO! When salt and pepper come face to face it is not a pretty sight. The two battle out to bring out the dominating flavour in food. Pepper usually comes out on top. Salt has gathered a reputation in the spice rack as being the weakest of all. Talisman and Latentspeak, the two calm grains, want to change this. They are tired of having to bow their heads in shame, especially to those Robertson's spices who think they are god's gift to potatoe wedges! As they are about to land they think about taking action. But, they miss the plate; they hit the tablecloth! Later on that evening, a few salt hours later, Talisman and Latentspeak are wiped away along with a few of their salty brothers. |
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hahaha where does that leave us.. :) |
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"i imagine it's kind of the same in the states. white and black people to be separated, and that's just silly..but i can't help but not to think that they sort of prefer it that way for some reason.. " "perhaps that would change if black people would try and fit in with the rest.." "they just want to be treated different :) " Could you please explain these statesments further? What exactly do you mean when you say we should try to fit in? |
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are you done yet? |
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That depends, do you have anything to add to this discussion? |
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no. |
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well, that's the impression i have..that blacks and whites don't hang out together or live in the same area (the majority). i don't know why that is. i remember when i was in the primary school we had one african american boy join us for one semester..everyone wanted to be his friend and he was friends with everyone, i don't know whether children percept it that different or it has a lot to do with how someone is brought up. young black people seem to be left out on their own rather soon..probably being told about racism all the time..as long as parents won't know better the problem won't go away.. by 'fit in' i meant that they should perhaps try and think about the fact that not every white person is a racist, that infact there are very few and most of white people don't care about what colour of skin one has..that would surely take a lot of tension away..ofcourse this is much easier to say than do.. that last part was a bit of a joke, therfore the smiley, although it's partly what i think - that's another impression i got - they just don't want to see them as people, but as black people, because they simply feel there's this big unjustice being done to them.. im not black so i can't possibly understand how it feels to be black, but from my point of view that is how i see it..i wish my english was better so i could explain it properly..but, if i sum it up, i think that past shouldn't be forgotten, although it should be put aside in everyday life.. |
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being from south africa and white, you shouldn't be allowed in this thread :) |
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He's from Slovenia! give him a break Mertens. |
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and an afrikaner... my forefathers have shamed me :) |
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Thanks for explaining your viewpoint. |
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as far as i know im the only person from slovenia around here :) agric, your forefathers must have been ace then :) |
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I'm surprised that you don't have something relevant to say here. |
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Are all people from Slovenia ignorant bigots? 8 ) |
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And here's the big question. Do you feel that there is a race or group or nationality of people who are inherently superior or inferior to others? |
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you're welcome. ofcourse it's probably a very weak opinion, but that's the kind of impression i came up with in this remote place i live in :) |
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i think so, yeah..no one really cares about anything..you get used to it after a while. mertens, i like to think i belong to superior race, yes. |
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dude you want to fight about this stuff dont you man what happened to the world tolstoyed my race is way superior than urs ;) infact my races did could ahve your races dad |
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*dad not did *have not ahve i type like a fuck..... badly |
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In south africa there is racism, with racial slurs being used freely, but this is mostly among the older generation who have been indoctrinated with years of propaghanda. The younger generation (mostly black, coloured, indian and white middle class students) seem to get along fine. We all party and get drunk together. The only black people i ever hang out with who live in squater camps ("ghetto" areas) are the rastas who i buy weed from and they're always more than happy to have you hang out and smoke a chillum with them. 11 years after the end of apartheid in South Africa and I can honestly say there is very little racial tension. Quite amazing really, but then again i'm sure a lot goes on that i'm not aware of. I'd say the word "kaffer" is pretty much a dirty word and no one uses it because of the apartheid connotations. I see where your coming from mertens but i don't really see the need to make an issue of it on the board. I don't really know where this ties in with the rest of the discussion, but there you go, my 2 cents (i still think my salt story was pretty good and tolstoyed actually got it!). |
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haha :D |
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the race of men commonly known as 'celebrities' are far superior to us mere mortals. |
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I don't want to fight at all. I really want to know your honest answer to this question. This helps me understand your definition of racism as opposed to mine. |
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regarding the generalizations about "america" and "americans," consider the size of the united states. where i live, there are large numbers of ethiopians who fled the civil war, and hmong people, as well as native americans, and south american immigrants of many origins. the stereotypical "minnesotan" is of swedish/norwegian/finnish origin. but it's totally different in los angeles, seattle, new york, new orleans, chicago, atlanta etc etc etc. in some places, there's little racial tension, with significant integration. in other places, there are mainly so-called white people mainly. we also have very large populations of hispanic people. |
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hi everybody, this is my first post here. i came here 'cause of my love for autechre and afx and i saw this thread about racism and would like to share my opinion. there seems to be an overwhelming consensus here that racism against blacks is an historical event that has no modern significance. most of the posts have stressed this opinion that no one cares if you're black or that the word nigger only keeps old wounds from healing. i find this to be totally wrong in the case of the united states where racism against blacks has been essential to the country's history for centuries. the fact is, although blacks are no longer explicitly the slaves of the whites, their necks are still under the boots of white opressors. in every single instance of poverty, imprisonment, education, income, housing, employment, etc. ad nauseum blacks are at the very bottom of the totem. blacks remain the most impoverished races in this country owning only one percent of the wealth as oppossed to the .1 they owned the first year of abolishion. blacks are the most unemployed, the most imprisoned. if you travel to the any poor city in this country, chances are most of its inhabitants are black, in fact, the poorer you go the blacker it gets. this is racism. pure and simple. blacks are NOT afforded the same or even remotely similar opportunities as any other race. so the word nigger does not refer to an historical suffering, rather it invokes the omnipresent discrimination against black people in this country. the ratio of imprissoned blacks to whites in the us is greater than that of south africa surring the aprtheid. and the word nigger is property of the blacks. it's their word, we can say nothing about how they use it. we gave it to them, ingrained it in them. check out these links: http://www.prisonsucks.com/ http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/i ncome_wealth/002484.html |
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but why? you did the same thing when i started a thread about wiggers. i dont ever use he word nigger unless im pretedning to be a rapper and i said wigger on the msg board and it became a debate about racism which i feel was unecassery because if you felt it was meant in a racist way then yous eriously do have paranoia issues. i mean no offence to you man but seriously i think we should just chill the fuck out ISM's are everywhere not just racism, sexism, facism, christ theres even idmism its a fact of life people are inherantly different not inferior different just different and somepeople dislike certain differences. ill be honest if there is a race thats been fucked over the most its blaitently the american indians, more so than black people by far i mean christ the majority of thier race has been wiped out as the tshirt says "american indians - fighting terrorism since 1492 (not sure thats the right date)" fuck look now im worrying im offenidng americans by talking about the indians for christ sake i wont watch my words round here. the thing i like about this board is the open way people talk, theres no angling around sometihng people just say it in a relaxced way we are all people but we are individuals some people choose to say certain things other dont why reiterate differences again and again? you are achieving nothing except peoples annoyance at you inability to let a sleeping dog lie |
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welcome on board! "blacks are the most unemployed, the most imprisoned." see, i would say that this is mostly because on their own decision. im sure there are a lot of black people who don't have troubles getting a job or staying out of jail..why would they be any different? |
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i think you missed a lot of posts in this thread. i also think that the problems in the united states are problems of class discrimination primarily and not of race. poor "white" people face precisely the same roadblocks as poor "black" people. consider also the genocide against native americans, the strict laws in the early 20th century that outlawed citizenship for people of asian origin, or the internment of people of asian origin during ww2 (their jobs were lost, their homes were taken etc etc). i'm not trying to turn this into a "what's wrong with the us thread," but the assertion that only blacks have suffered persecution/oppression here is flatly wrong. as a matter of fact, when i went to college in the united states, if you were black, the standards for entry were much lower, and you had to pay very little tuition. if you were white, it did not matter how poor you were, you faced higher standards for entry and you got little tuition assistance. this was at the university of illinois in champaign-urbana. |
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