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If there is one thing I have learned in life. Canadians hate America. I imagine Norway is quite beautiful. I'd love to visit and most people in the US with half a brain know that Europe isn't communist. Socialism sounds great, as long as it isn't corrupt and abused. In the US it would get abused to fuck. You can believe it. |
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and the reason Americans hate the idea of socialism is because we hate how inefficient and bloated our government is already. Just try calling an agency and getting someone on the phone. Or finding out where exactly the buck stops,. It doesn't. Our goverment is a labyrinth of do nothing jobs. Socialism would just get ass fucked in the US by corruption. |
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I'm so sorry, it meant to read "pawns" instead of puppets. My bad. |
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np. my comment still applies, as if you can speak for our dead fathers.......please, |
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All the people fighting in WW against Germany were pawns too.....? :( |
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copied from elusives iraqi photo's thread RE: people taking saddam's side over america's: "Source? (lol should go into other thread)" i was really just exagerating to make a point... but, people seem quick to compare bush to hitler and whatnot, and downplay the fact that saddam was a teribly dangerous and opressive leader. i recognise that this is a gross oversimplification, and it wasn't really meant to be a point for debate... i was just illustrating the point that many people feircely hate our current president. :) |
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I honestly love hearing people compair Bush to Hitler. Sigh, What ignorance. Oh, and while we're on the subject, if we really are going to Iraq for oil, how come gas is to be at its all time high this summer? (stated earlier, no replies on it yet). |
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Epohs, It's good, I think, for our current state, to actually hear people step up and take on the President. It makes me feel good that we still live in the type of democracy where doing so won't get you a bullet in the head (read: hmmm, countless other countries?). ---That comment was offtopic and could open up a new can of worms, so please disregard it; just something I wanted to point out. |
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until we can get the oil flowing in iraq OPEC still controls the price of oil. last i heard the infrastructure for oil distribution in iraq was still fucked. but, i may be way off the mark there. i'd say prices will prolly stay pretty high even if we do start getting iraqi oil... it'll just be american corps gouging us instead of the OPEC mafia... but, i may be way off the mark there too. |
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It's worth a shot. |
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it's not really the american public that worry me so much as the leaders of many other countries... especially the ones that used to be strong allies. i think bush has gotten quite the big head in his tenure behind the wheel of the most powerful nation on the third rock... and, i think that's really dangerous now that we're fighting a global guerilla war, where strong allies are a must. |
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eh its not like I dont have good reasons for hating the states, ive been there many times for long periods of time the US is fine, its the government and a lot of the mentalities of people there, not all.... no no. |
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You cant compare Bush to Hitler- Hitler had a brain and a plan and even though he was completely psycho, he actually thought he was doing good by his people. Bush on the other hand is a dopey, self-serving, frat-boy wanna be. Wanna know why the price of gas is so high? Cus he wants it that way- more money for his Saudi friends and the schmoes at the refineries in Tex-Ass. Wanna know the real reason we're in Iraq? Its because after Bush got done raping his own folks here at home with tax cuts for his rich buddies, he mooved on to loot Iraq. Im all for the war on terrorists and I'd be first in line to shave the scrotums in preparation for the electrodes of SOME of those fucks in Guantanamo, but the way this Dick-brained yahoo is running our coutry, we are breeding more terrorists by the minute. Sadam had all the nasty little Hobbitses in his country under very tight control and then we came in and turned them all loose- smart move! |
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I must say it´s weird seeing elusive actually posting stuff one can read, even though I don´t agree with his views - what has happened? |
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Who profits: here's the page with the search on it relating to oil... if you are a miltary contractor America is nearly thanks to the tax cuts for big business so steal some or exploit a developing country and flood 'em with cheap imports... |
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-I love my freedom in America as do i but im not ignorant and thus feel that its only protected by blowing shit up -President Bush is doing a great job wrong, simply, just wrong - the dollar is worth less, jobs are scarce, and attacks keep occuring to our allies - doesnt sound good to me -Nothing is banned in the states, like In canada a video game was banned and that doesnt happen here wrong - european things are banned her - eg. movies (eyes wide shut for content) - the strokes LP (ommitted the NYC cops track due to 9.11) - bad examples but examples none-the-less -large american corporations that have ties with bush and cheany (*gasp!*) set up shop in foreign countries and make america money true indeed - we cherish exploitation and cheap labor - figurative we -america has been bombing the middle east for a long long time,to no avail true, we've been bombing w/o saying for quite a while now - to no monetary avail -the president has outright lied many times, only to be proven this days later when news stories broke out yep, he's a liar - like all "good" americans - one of which i do not consider myself -in canada we have more relaxed laws to just about everything, and our government is more democratic than the states's government, and we dont need to kill people for our freedom... haha - see above - we're very dictorial-o-cratic i think -there was one of the largest protests of our time EVER in iraq protesting the war there, but america did it anyway..... you mean war or protest? - the people of american dont matter anymore so protesting is pointless - the person in office didnt win the majority of the pop votes so voting is obviously rendered useless - and war will happen whenever and WHERE EVER there is money to be made that can end up in white boring american assholes' pockets - trust in that fact i said it before and i'll say it again fuck america ive been here for 22 years (my whole life) |
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Then get the fuck out. |
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And seeing as how I am 20 years old, and you claiming to be 22....what the fuck man, we are still young adults. We don't have anywhere near the experience to fully offer our opinions on the subject at hand. Any opinion you have now could be the inverse of the one you will have in 5 or so years. It's fun to spark debate though. :) |
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Avart, "I must say it´s weird seeing elusive actually posting stuff one can read, even though I don´t agree with his views - what has happened? " Internet perceptions usually lead to uttar, disappointment. :) |
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What really starts to change your views is when you pay taxes for years and see that you are just lining the pockets of the bastards that are cutting your throat. At least Clinton made big business pay its fair share. The only thing Gee-Dub-ya figured out to help the economy was keeping social security solvent for a few more years by totally shit-canning the economy so old-folk's 401k's evaporated and they couldnt afford to retire and collect their SS benifits- really quite brillian- so much so that I'm sure it was an accident, but I give credit where it is due. |
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I know that just before the elections everything will come to a head. Everything will be perfect. They'll get Bin Laden, economy will sky rocket, Jobs will be had by all, global warming will be reversed. Those fuckers. If any of that shit happens I'll know they rigged it. |
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The economy started to tank in '99 (the bubble). I was there. When Bush was President elect. Not to defend Bush, but it was on Clintons watch. And so was terrorism. Hello, Clinton had eight years to nip it in the bud. What the fuck? And where's our free health care Clinton? |
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It's sad to think that the American people are dumb enough to vote for that asshole if he just pulls Osama out of his fucking hat at the last moment, but I fear you are right. I dont see the economy rebounding any time soon though. Ohio has lost 225,000 jobs in the last 2 years and I dont see them coming back in the next 8 months. |
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you should try communism... you have enough money to make it last for four years even if it fails... it isn't very likely to fail, though, 'cause america has VAST natural resources... |
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all the more to line the pockets of the one's who control the wealth. ;) |
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Socialism wouldn't be too bad, but I think it works better in smaller countries.Simply because of the logistics involved. Plus, Americans don't have a borg mentality. More Rugged individual. It would get abused. Communism is a bit Orwell. Plus, we have all our white guilt programs to worry about as it is. |
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The tech bubble might of started to burst under Clinton, but he didnt set the frigging house on fire by emptying the treasury with tax cuts- he handed GW the biggest budget surplus of all time. And as far as terrorism, its true the sudan was going to hand over bin laden, but Clinton did not want to inflame relations at that time no one could of forseen 9-11 happening. And he would of definitely not attacked Iraq. However, he probably would of banged a few fat chicks in the oval office... Hillary tried health care and the republicans crucified her, but now that everyone is haveing to pay for their own anyway and seeing what a rip it truly is, I think nationalized health care will have a chance under the next administration. As for communism- I like my petty materialistic objects way too much for that! |
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ja ja ja ja ja .......................... sheesh ...... |
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Americans don't have a borg mentality. More Rugged individual. now, THAT's bullshit! haha! |
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As an American I would have to agree- we are very sheep like. I would have to say that on the whole, however America is a fantastic place to live. Especially since all the terrorism is currently happening in Europe. |
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Don't bring that George into this!!!! |
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Actually, your comment didn't apply to mine but it's ok. |
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