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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-03-23 12:00 [#01114970]
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I'll have to correct your question: George W Bush was never elected. So the question is: Will he be elected?
Let's hope NOT! But I wouldn't bet my life savings on it. Several things might happen:
1. Osama Bin Laden - I suspect George to be hiding Osama, waiting for just the right moment before the election to announce having caught him. His popularity would get a big boost!
2. 9/11 II - Just imagine what another grand scale terrorist attack a few weeks before the election would have on the american people! Another boost of popularity is what I reckon would happen, like it did in 2001. Otherwise George could just declare Martial Law and the elections would be off.
3. Diebold electronic voting technology - Diebold supports the republicans AND they deliver the technology for electronic voting. This technology has been protected by copyright law preventing closer examination to reveal all possible flaws. And there have been flaws! Votes have been lost, recounting has been impossible and so on.. Read about the Diebold-republican connection here and read about the problems with e-voting here.
I think I can say for sure that we're up for a real thriller!
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2004-03-23 12:09 [#01114982]
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Ive also considered the possiblities of another 9/11 or the capture of Usama occuring at an oppertune time before the elections. Also Sadam's trail is another thing to consider.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 14:14 [#01115099]
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Quite the obvious conspiracies you have there. Did you come up with those all by yourself? With those ideas, maybe you should pursue a writing career.
The fact that you actually beleive that to be true, with all of the forces looking for him, the people dying in the search, sigh....not going to even continue that conversation.
Only time will tell, eh?
::bookmarks this page for reference post-November::
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 14:15 [#01115100]
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Dolleater,
"Ive also considered the possiblities of another 9/11 or the capture of Usama occuring at an oppertune time before the elections. "
You think that we know about another attack, and that we will let it happen right before elections just to get higher ratings (not sure how higher ratings would come from another attack? please explain?!)
...that's just a sick, sick thought man......
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 14:19 [#01115101]
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Technology is tearing this planet apart.
If this happened 5 or 10 years ago, I surely doubt there would be quite the uproar.
Just you wait....next time a country does anything out of the norm, the media will pick it up and it will be tomorrow's headlines and plastered all over the news.
Then what.............
We don't need this in our face 24/7 and allowing people who don't know what they're talking about sit back and take shots on how they feel about it.
Opinions are great and all; without them we have slavery, but sometimes things get downright silly.
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FUK-YU
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-23 14:19 [#01115103]
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Who really gives a shit if chains of McDonalds's start popping up all over iraq
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 14:21 [#01115105]
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www.cnn.com
Hmmm, Clinton had the chance to kill Laden 2 or 3 times in '98 / '99?
Why aren't you people bashing Clinton for stepping up to the plate?
Oh, that's right.....
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-03-23 14:22 [#01115107]
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if dubya is capable of capturing one of the most recognisable figures on the planet, and hiding him for months (if not years), without any of the al qaeda spokesmen, the local populace, the countless us military men, the pakistani army, officials, or enemies involved leaking the story to a major news outlet i would be very impressed at his skill.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 14:22 [#01115108]
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FUK-YU,
"Who really gives a shit if chains of McDonalds's start popping up all over iraq"
Hmmm, cheap food, creating thousands of jobs....yeah, trying to see through your sarcastic words but hey, whatever.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2004-03-23 14:44 [#01115131]
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I think you will find that this clarifies whether the war was worth it or not...linky
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2004-03-23 15:08 [#01115155]
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When you say "we" are you refering to yourself, the public in general? When has the public ever had prior knowledge of anything? We didnt in pearl harbor, but the military did. and because of their gross negligence "we" werent prepared. I dont consider my thoughts sick in reference to the type of truely sick people occupying in the white house.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 15:38 [#01115211]
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Dolleater,
While it is plain obvious to look at things such as Pearl Harbor after the fact that it has happened, you must also contain the mental capacity of how many attempts and attacks we may have prevented in the past.
Considering we have only had a few *major* attacks (as bad as this sounds............) I feel that that is pretty damn good.
Remember, no news is good news.
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Dolleater
from Afrika Bambaataa on 2004-03-23 15:47 [#01115229]
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its quite possible for something to be strategically overlooked. And because our government is so hard-pressed to disclose ANY information to the people we cant help but look at things until after the fact. Could you possibly inform me using your great capacity as to what these thwarted *major* attacks were?
pipe bombers and snipers dont count.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 16:19 [#01115269]
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...........................
Who knows how many ('if any' does not apply here) attacks we have evaded because of intelligence or "hunches" etc. etc.).
It seems as though you've missed my point, entirely.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 16:23 [#01115278]
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Was there some negligence concerning Pearl Harbor? Sure, from the documentaries I've seen (and I Sure as hell have-not lived through).
But that was a mistake in the time of war.
A time when technology was not quite as powerful, and chances/guesses had to be made on the best information at hand.
I don't think in a time of military and war, you certainly cannot be right all the time. :(
I understand what you are trying to say; government witholding information to the people, but sometimes you just have to be realistic, and sometimes we are all blind.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 16:26 [#01115282]
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Now don't take this too literally to reflect my opinion on the current situation.
Do I feel all the known facts or theories prior to 9/11 should be brought out in the open?
-Sure.
Do I feel that if we knew about a possible 'attack' that we should have taken greater measurements?
-You god Damn right I do.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-03-23 17:28 [#01115407]
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It's just business, they care fuck all for any humanitarian angle, that's just the veil they put up for the people.
Obviously it's like hiding an elephant behind a blade of grass, but a couple of smooth talkers accompanied with a few images and videofootage seems to work miracles on the masses' opinions regarding the reasons for the conflict.
Deaths, no matter how big the number, on homesoil or abroad are completely negligible for the cause.
Puppets who have served their purpose are discarded and new puppets will be put into place so to keep the wheel turning.
It's nothing new really,just another day at the office.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-03-23 17:32 [#01115415]
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That is not my opinion, that's a fact.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 18:00 [#01115469]
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Yes,
Everyone who died in the U.S. Civil War were "puppets."
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 18:00 [#01115470]
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< /sarcasm >
I mean from the North..........of course ;)
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nacmat
on 2004-03-23 18:30 [#01115500]
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what are you asking me?
to talk about reagan, carter, nixon?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 19:53 [#01115550]
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Only the popular ones, right? ;)
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-03-23 20:06 [#01115564]
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elusive is such a smart-ass it's turning me on. and making me dry-heave at the same moment.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-03-23 20:55 [#01115611]
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let's say it together in unison "we hate America!!". Ahh, it's like taking a good shit.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-23 21:14 [#01115640]
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Well since we are going to Iraq for mere oil, I'm kinda curious why gas prices will be the highest ever, come this summer.
Hmmm maybe Bush is just doing this on purpose (you know, since he has SO much control over it, lol) so when its a month before election times he'll bring prices back down to a buck a gallon.
No Way!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can see it now, all over the news.
2nd page will be like "random terrorist: OSAMA captured"
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-23 21:54 [#01115670]
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yeah.... i decided not to let it get to me, but fuck what idiots
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-24 02:07 [#01115756]
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Ceri: because i've had to explain it twenty times outside of this mb as well. it seems that there is some american "fashion" which makes it cool to ask norwegians: "how is to be communist?"
elusive: it may very well be that YOU understand this, but everyone else I've talked to from america fail to understand this until they've actually visited norway. Also, a friend of mine is studying in Hawaii at the moment, and there are several americans there.. his nickname is "commie."
also: being overly-patriotic isn't good. our country is being run into a dump right now, 'cause right now we don't even have an elected prime minister (the one who was elected stepped down, and then it automatically goes to the next person on the list). It also seems that the two shittiest parties (one of them wants to privatize everything (schools, hospitals, and so-on), and the other also wants to privatize, but they also want to throw out all the refugees) are getting better ratings. People fall for their promises of more money and cheaper.. everything.. I know they'll just fuck it up. Fortunately, a non-coalition government in norway is unavoidable, so the other large parties will also have a say in this.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-03-24 06:22 [#01115936]
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Privatize = Bad!!
The norwegian politicians should look at sweden as a warning example.
We had it so good here and everything worked smooth like clockwork.
Now they are fucking it up with capitalist ideas =(
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-24 06:27 [#01115941]
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yep. I hate privatizing and overly-capitalistic ideals.. it just leads to war and destruction...
therefore, I hope people here in norway will get their act together and realize that "FRP" and "høyre" (parties) are bad!
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-24 06:45 [#01115957]
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being VERY patriotic or "overly" so, can be bad because lots of these americans and people in other nations are, and it just makes them blind to their problems they have in that country. like these IDIOT americans i was talking to.. ar!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-24 06:55 [#01115966]
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yeah.. to say that nothing is banned in america.. legal drinking age: 21.
and:
South Dakota:
"No horses are allowed into Fountain Inn unless they are wearing pants."
"It is illegal to lie down and fall asleep in a cheese factory."
"Movies that show police officers being struck, beaten, or treated in an offensive manner are forbidden."
"If there are more than 5 Native Americans on your property you may shoot them."
Baltimore, Maryland
"No person who is a "tramp" or "vagrant" shall loiter in any park at any time. They define tramp as a person who roves for begging purposes and a vagrant as an idle person who is able-bodied living without labor. It's a $50 fine. I guess the tramp would have to beg for the money to pay the fine. -Park Rule 6"
Georgia:
"Donkeys may not be kept in bathtubs."
"Signs are required to be written in English."
"No one may carry an ice cream cone in their back pocket if it is Sunday."
Nebraska:
"If a child burps during church, his parent may be arrested."
"It is illegal for bar owners to sell beer unless they are simultaneously brewing a kettle of soup."
"It is illegal for a mother to give her daughter a perm without a state license."
Minnesota:
"A person may not cross state lines with a duck atop his head."
"It is illegal to sleep naked."
"Citizens may not enter Wisconsin with a chicken on their head."
"All bathtubs must have feet."
Utah
"It is illegal to cause a catastrophe."
"It is illegal not to drink milk."
It is illegal to detonate any nuclear weapon. You can have them, but you just can't detonate them.
New York (the state)
"The penalty for jumping off a building is death."
"While riding in an elevator, one must talk to no one, and fold his hands while looking toward the door."
"Slippers are not to be worn after 10:00 P.M."
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-24 06:58 [#01115968]
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Hahaha, I love those old funny laws they have in place from way back.
::chuckles::
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-24 07:04 [#01115970]
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LAZY_TITLE
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-03-24 07:07 [#01115971]
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N.C.
"Elephants may not be used to plow cotton fields."
oh shit.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-24 07:11 [#01115973]
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national US laws:
"No person may appear as a contestant in more than one game show a year."
"To be a dominatrix is illegal."
"It is illegal to give free alcohol to Indians who live on reservations."
"Persons may be placed in jail for up to five years for shooting a hole in a penny."
"A US citizen can take possession of any foreign, uninhabited island, as long as it contains bird droppings."
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-24 07:18 [#01115978]
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Threadjack in progress.
But when was the last time one of these were actually prosecuted?>
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-03-24 07:22 [#01115982]
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well.. I suppose a few dominatrixes have been arrested the last year... the one about free alcohol to indians in reservations is also probable to have been enforced.
I remember some small notice in a norwegian paper about the "All bathtubs must have feet" thing last year, I think... someone had a bathtub without feet, and got a fine.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-24 10:16 [#01116187]
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america how she will burn.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-24 10:22 [#01116195]
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REFLEX needs to learn how to use commas.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-24 10:24 [#01116201]
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, no i, dont.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-03-24 10:37 [#01116216]
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"No one may carry an ice cream cone in their back pocket if
it is Sunday."
Priceless =)
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2004-03-24 10:40 [#01116223]
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no man can have an eric in his pants when on the open highway. Classic!
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-03-24 10:42 [#01116228]
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"It is illegal to cause a catastrophe."
hahaha!
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-24 10:42 [#01116229]
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no one can quote stuff
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-03-24 10:44 [#01116233]
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"no one can quote stuff"
=)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-24 10:44 [#01116234]
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Enough.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-03-24 10:48 [#01116241]
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yeah shes goin too far!
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-03-24 11:04 [#01116273]
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I thought you were going to start using commas?
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nacmat
on 2004-03-24 16:44 [#01116789]
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all of them are quite popular
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-03-24 16:49 [#01116802]
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"Slippers are not to be worn after 10:00 P.M."
GODDAMN RIGHT!!
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