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naked lunch is one of my all time favorites, but how to defend it? i agree with qrter, individuals who assert that people only like a film to appear cool or because it's perceived to be a "classic" make this assertion likely because they themselves have operated the very same pretense at some point. although there is no question that at some point some individuals *have* claimed to enjoy a film they didn't understand (or appreciate) so as to not appear stupid (or unsophisticated), the suggestion that a film's entire reputation would be founded on a shallow pretense such as this is ridiculous. naked lunch is a prime candidate for this assertion. it's likely the least obvious commercial film you will ever see, and will leave many scratching their heads. |
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btw, i mentioned naked lunch in response to flea, the followup feature doesn't work on this mac... |
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I don't see how any of your points are flaws. |
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Hence your crappy taste in movies |
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the bourne identity |
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who cares whats crappy or whats good? why dont we all just watch movies over at Ceri's house and i will BBQ! :D |
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i agree with everything there apart from the Winona Ryder bit, she's a great actress in a shitty film, its not her fault it turned out crap |
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great...actress...??? |
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well in my opinion, she's been good in the few films i've see her in. Edward Scissorhands, Girl Interrupted, Bram Stokers Dracula... she needs to work with Tim Burton more. |
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My tatste is much better than yours ;) |
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;D |
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equilibrium is a ripp off from every sci-fi movie from past 20 years, and pseudo-swords fight is just pathetic. also i couldnt watch the scene where the guys were doing something with the pistols , like struggling or something. tottaly stupid. |
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oh and Ichi The Killer - i know some god "of" films, but that one was really off sense. and it wasnt funny |
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and, sorry, Kill Bill. absolutely shitty japanese, and , of course, no-one could make a proper sword in few weeks, heh, not even for months. just stupid |
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"and , of course, no-one could make a proper sword in few weeks, heh, not even for months." oh yeah, i forgot... Kill Bill was meant to be completely realistic, thats why she has a samurai sword on the plane. |
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sadly, Alien: Ressurrection is an even bigger wankfest than "Aliens". don't get me wrong, "Aliens" isn't all that great, but it is better than A:R, imo. I see it as a bigger wankfest simply because of the buckets of needless gore - EVERY bit of violence is explicit in this film. this combined with X-tomatic's point about the comicbook style make the violence non-threatening, just disgusting. I agree with X-tomatic's other points too, btw. and I do think W. Ryder is miscast - she can't pull a role of that kind off. |
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i liked alien ressurection and i liked T3 alot. most of the other films you guys have listed i havent even fucking heard of so you must be watching pure crap. the worst film i saw recently was the league of extraordinary gentlemen. it blew so much i cant believe that sean connery is cool. he should of killed himself halfway through. |
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Yeah, because films you haven't heard of must therefore be crap. Muppet. |
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ahem...I like Naked Lunch because...well I like it....I am huge fan of Burroughs...this film barely scratches the surface of the complexity and brilliance of the book...by no means an adaptation...merely a peek into the rich and mesmerising universe created by Burroughs for the trilogy....and yet it has been reviled as one of the most perplexing movies ever |
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the comic book style you are refering to is actually what I find refreshing about the movie as well as the sheer explicitness of it all...harks back to the classic Metal Hurlant style of trashy European sci fi sensibilities...I mean frankly how many times are you going to take the Alien popping up from behind a dark metallic tunnel seriously? Secondly it had a comic book sensibility most probably to pay homage to the dark Horse series of comic books which has produced some fantastic material...the harnessing of Alien DNA and harvesting Alien Human hybrids is concept directly off the pages of the comic..and a timely booster shot in the arm of a franchise otherwise doomed to repeat it self...over and over... |
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well, flea, i tried to respond to your post about naked lunch but xltronic has banished by words to interzone, and my lunch break is over! |
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this is VERY odd. i just watched naked lunch last night |
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The Passion of the Christ. |
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"I mean frankly how many times are you going to take the Alien popping up from behind a dark metallic tunnel seriously?" I would rather have NO more films than a kneejerk reaction like just upping the gore level. not very imaginative. I know the Dark Horse comics and I think that idea is okay, executed quite badly, making the film just repeat old ideas and cheap scares from the earlier movies. with the relative realism which made "Alien" such a chilling film now completely gone, A:R tries to find horror in gore, but fails quite miserably, trying to cover up a tawdry an cliched script with flashy special effects. |
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um...not a fan of Juenet then? I know the Dark Horse comics and I think that idea is okay, executed quite badly um...how would you bring it to life, in a way that would surpass the spine chilling scene in the lab? |
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yes, I am a fan of Jeunet. just because I don't like this poorly scripted film I couldn't be? it's silly to ask me to come up with a better script-idea here, on the spot. that's like saying I can't criticize anything until I can do better - which shuts up most of us, then. I will say this - the first 30 minutes or so of the film do start okay - then the quality drops drastically when the film becomes just another sci-fi action romp with gory effects. |
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I don't know... There was plenty of underlying Jeunet magic there. Quite flawed but still a million times better than Aliens. |
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ahahahaha |
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I liked Aliens. It was a good action film that, with regards to the quality of the genre at the time it was made, was very well done. |
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Not only that, it had everything a great sequel to a great classic needed. I'm annoyed how people always portray it as a mere action flick while there was just so much more to it. Sometimes they're just bashing the movie because they hate James Cameron for reasons unknown (titanic). To me it had an equal (if not more) amount of suspence, nervewrecking moment, frantic pacing, horror moments, appropriate humor,but most of all criminally overlooked amazing acting and perfect casting. Also the excellent sets come to mind, this is one reason why I love Cameron, he wants everything to have a purpose. The sense of realism is nice. The loader for example was his design and the way it works looks absolutely believable and the way it comes back in the final showdown with the bitch is perfect. Loads of classic moments in the movie "game over man" anyone? in short: Fuck all the naysayers. |
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