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how about sanctioned, appropriate, approved of, sensible, reasonable, necessary... |
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i dont care what anyone's view on the actual content of this war is... its a heck of a lot bette rthan being a mindless zombie to the un *cough*eu*cough* ebtter to have a controversial opinion and take a stand on something, than to be a slave to the roman empire. |
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a journalist form the washington posts said it was not such an accident I mean it was not that the driver didnt stop, cos the soldiers really advised him too late |
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last i checked the US fucking created the UN, and the UN was the little stitch keeping this crazy world together. |
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yeah, ain't it disgusting that this war is waged just because of a common businessdeal. It's like this: "hey mr. Bush, we'll make sure get you elected if you make sure our interests get served as well. So what you are going to do is allow terrorists to strike at the heart of our nation. This "cowardly act" will then allow us to wage war for what will be in the eyes of the world as a "war on terror", a "justifiable revenge", on several countries that we will list as being part of "the axis of evil". We'll start in Afghanistan, nothing of interest there so that'll make 'em believe the war really is on terror. Then we'll move to Iraq and remove Saddam so we'll gain control of their oil. Heck, after 12 years of bloody UN sanctions the Iraqis must be completely worn out. It sure as hell did kill alot of their children so after invading the country and despatching the remaining resistance we'll have nothing to worry about * all cheer and laugh out loud,shake hands and pat each other on the back in total agreement * ". |
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what is sad is that this fits perfectly with reality imagine... (where is lennon when we need him?) |
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How appropriate then that Lennon was dispatched by a victim of a secret US mind control project. And don't forget that the CIA have themselves created the scourge of the west that is Osama Bin Laden |
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"The declared aim of the war by the US and Britain was that Saddam posed a threat to the region and the world because of his secret arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. The low level of allied casualties and the lack of any evidence so far that Saddam possesses such weapons makes the supposed threat from the Iraqi leader look ever more mythical. This puts a particular onus on the US to justify the war by making sure that the Iraqis have a better life after the war. The best course for the Americans would be to turn over the running of Iraq to a transitional United Nations authority until a democratic government is elected. But since one of the purposes of the Republican right and the neo-conservatives in Washington in launching war was to downgrade the functions of the UN to a purely humanitarian agency, this is unlikely to happen unless Tony Blair can somehow persuade President Bush otherwise. " - Reuters Don't know how substantiated that is, but its rather worrying to what extent the 'neo-conservatives', cheney et. al. are getting their way ... syria and iran! |
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yeah they even boldly stated the US intend to rule iraq until iraq's future is "safe and secure". Or until the oil supplies run out? |
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I'm fed up about hearing the term"Weapons of Mass Destruction". It is overused and overemphasised. This war is all about generating fear and panic, to control the populous. Sure, righty Saddam Hussain is gonna launch some rusty depleted missiles which are second hand and have "Made in USA" emblazoned on them. I'm sure if they were fired (if they do exist that is) they would barely even reach the Kuwaiti border. Now that must be interpreted as a MASSIVE threat to the USA, I mean Kuwait is only like 2 kilometres from Chicago. No wonder the USA are fighting this war. They have a crap sense of geography and distance. I'm Scottish and this Yankee dunce thought that Scotland was a city in Ireland!! The bottom line is that the yanks will be able to drive their gas-gussling Sports Utility Vehicles(SUVs) for another two hundred years at third world countries, and the environment. now THAT is progress. Viva Democracie!! |
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you have to check http://www.newamericancentury.org/ specially their statement of principles. http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm now at this last page, take a look at the names at the bootom (the founders of this organiztion) wich include, among others: jeb bush (georgie's brother, gov of florida) dick cheney donald rumsfeld dan quayle paul wolfowitz.. see any pattern? it's quite scary.. this people are living 2 centuries ago. they're demented. |
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thnx ok .. that's EXACTLY what i'm on about - "neo-conservatives" they call themselves i think ... |
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GAME OVER? |
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What now? |
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without war, think of all the great videogames and movies we would have missed out on. War Craft Nuclear War Star Craft Counter Strike Command and Conquer War Lords Kool-Aide Man or movies: THin Red Line Apocalypse Now Full Metal Jacket Hamburger Hill Three Kings Black Hawk Down Platoon Red Dawn Antz Bugs Life Star Wars War of the Worlds Mars Attacks Signs Office Space |
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no comments |
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black hawk down a great movie ... ? so maybe Bush et al. should start exterminating some particular ethnic minority - because hey, Schindler's list was a good movie right? ;) Don't know .. its sad i think - its a really tricky situation that is being abused .. toppling saddam should not be a good that overshadows and justifies all other actions ... |
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(click for more) The problem with our role is Americans live in a world of illusion. We're illusioned about our safety. We're in an illusion about what our role is in world politics and foreign affairs, and our policies are killing and destroying and doing a lot of things that we are not aware of. So when the media shows us bringing war to Iraq it's very easy for us to justify that brutality on a country that obviously is no match for us. It's a sad situation. |
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who are they trying to convince with that patriotic charade? I'm sure alot of thick-skulled Americans who get reality from their TV sets would buy that utter crap, but any sane person reading through this bugger can only laugh like a maniac and say "are they for real?" These sort of guys are the CAUSE of the very problems in the world that they are describing. This is the white collar scum that doesn't deserve a human body, they should reincarnate as flies on which I shit |
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i love the people who try to shut up those who are anti-war by just saying "SUPPORT THE TROOPS." if you really supported them you wouldn't have them risking their lives in a needless war. *wonders if i already used that line in this thread* |
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also how they say, they should respect the president more, and have faith in his judgement ... but hang on, isn't america a democracy where each individuals opinion is valued, indeed relied upon. |
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x-tomatic: indeed - seems they managed to sucker bush into it! erm .. mmm.. yeah .. ok your point still stands. |
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if bush doesn't respect the UN (effectively the rest of the world) why should we trust him.. we didn't even elect him. if the UN approved of this war and bush was a legitimate president i think this would be a different issue. but right now it's a flagrant disregard of everyone's interests except bush and his oil buddies. |
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I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean by that korben. Could you elaborate? |
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"who are they trying to convince with that patriotic charade? I'm sure alot of thick-skulled Americans who get reality from their TV sets would buy that utter crap, but any sane person reading through this bugger can only laugh like a maniac and say "are they for real?" " bush != sane ... i guess, something along those lines. |
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'!=' was meant to come out as 'does not =' |
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i support the troops but not necessarily the war. i think it's horrible that all these young americans had to be shipped over there to risk their lives so that rich people, who didn't have to join the military to afford to go to school, can drive their expensive gas guzzling SUV's. and my movie/videogame post was just me being facetious.. of course i don't think black hawk down is a "great" movie. though some of the scenes were well orchestrated... better than Wind Talkers though.. good gawd what an awful movie. |
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that's exactly what i'm saying, except i want you to understand that these young working class folks do NOT have to be risking their lives. the greedy are putting them in harm's way so they can profit off their sweat and blood (quite literally) and our post-9/11 renewed sense of patriotism. p.s. i hope you were kidding by including office space in your list cos i don't remember any wars in that one... ;) |
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yeah right... support the troops: 1. How has the Bush administration shown its support for our troops? a. The Republican-controlled House Budget Committee voted to cut $25 billion in veterans benefits over the next 10 years. b. The Bush administration proposed cutting $172 million from impact aid programs that provide school funding for children of military personnel. c. The administration ordered the Dept. of Veterans Affairs to stop publicizing health benefits available to veterans. |
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evolume .. thought so, hence the ;) ... SUV's eh .. fucked up situation |
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Result= no weapons of mass destruction after all. I think we were justified attacking them on the basis they had them , in that now we've been proved wrong, at least we can sleep a bit safer knowing they don't. I'm turning my attention to Iran and North Korea now; really dangerous those two. |
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I'm turning my attention to Iran and North Korea now; really dangerous those two. Yeah, just as dangerous as Iraq obviously was *rolleyes* |
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I hope you're not being facetious . These are dangerous times. We need to bomb sense into those wog nations who harbour Oilfields of Mass Production. |
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I hope you're being extremely sarcastic. |
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BUSH cant even control his drunk daughters! |
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