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offline taking_the_piz on 2011-08-13 20:38 [#02419241]
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but one man without others in battlefield is useless

Thanks for ruining my childhood Rambo fantasies. Is nothing
sacred anymore?


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-13 21:04 [#02419246]
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erm, im quite happy with my life and my marriage reently
collapsed and i lost my house in the last few months and
ended up having to move back to my mum and dads at 38
(true). try being happy for what you have (not the material
shit either), rather than being unhappy for trying to obtain
a posistion in life that is unlikely to happen thus making
you unhappy, bit like a dog chasing its tail. having said
that, when i am unhappy, i get my record box out that
contains all the records i love, cheers me up no end. why
level 43's 'running in the family' is in there though
remains a mystey to this day, and can at times lead to a
dark deep depressions. ive tried mixing it with 'humanoid
must not escape' but it wont work.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-13 21:06 [#02419247]
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Thats it. The army. I am joining the motherfucking army.
Getting paid to kill people in Afghanistan for a better
tomorrow!


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-13 21:08 [#02419248]
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dont join the army, join the conservatives, making britain
great.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-13 21:12 [#02419249]
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No, it was Hannah Arendt


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-13 21:18 [#02419250]
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smart girl


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-13 21:26 [#02419251]
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My own thoughts are pretty bland.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2011-08-13 21:37 [#02419252]
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> I agree with you that one have to participate in
building better tomorrow but one man without others in
battlefield is useless. I believe u agree with this.


Hence, "accept the one you've got and stop whining."

> I think, its also true that we need to begin from our
selfs, to make change.


Indeed. Even Michael Jackson sung it ;)

I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change
His Ways
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change
(Na Na Na, Na Na Na, Na Na,
Na Nah)


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-13 21:49 [#02419254]
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Na na na na child fucker na na na na na died of drug
overdose na na na he had the right ideas but he was an
asshole


 

offline nightex from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2011-08-14 10:02 [#02419274]
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>taking_the_piz
Rambo is not just a man he is limitless, his magz never endz
:)

>KEN
how you able to be happy then?

>yann_g
true :)



 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-14 22:27 [#02419317]
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lots and lots of yorkshire tea, dog walking over the woods,
friends, family and above jaffa cakes.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-14 22:32 [#02419318]
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meant to put above all else, jaffa cakes. im not above jaffa
cakes. shit happens, you dont know whats around the corner,
all cliches i know but true ones. you just have to pull up
your trousers and get on with it.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-17 18:57 [#02419427]
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I lost my job today. They fired me and 35 other people (it
was a temporary job). I feel sad and anexious. Right now i
also do not have the feeling i am in control of my life,
this is bugging me the most.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2011-08-17 21:29 [#02419429]
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Good luck to ya.

After being sacked it's quite logical to feel not having any
control. But remember it's only a feeling. In reality, it's
up to you for taking control of the situation.

Not that this is is going to give you your job back. But
there's always new opportunities. You might want to dabble
into eastern philosophies for a bit in your new free time.
Maybe it'll give you some inspiration.


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2011-08-18 05:33 [#02419434]
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Oh fuck I miss this. Sup, Monoid.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-18 05:54 [#02419436]
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I talked to the boss there. He said the 'asian market' is
playing with their company. Seriously, what kind of shiitty
society is that, if people can't take control of things.

People are responsible for what they do. Soon i will be
unemployed, so it is not only the market who is responsible
for this, but also the guy who fired.

If i however stabbed him with a screwdriver, i can not say
the market made me do it.


 

offline j4ck from United Kingdom on 2011-08-18 11:59 [#02419442]
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...

welcome to the pent up rage of unemployment


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-18 16:18 [#02419446]
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Be proud you held on to this job so far!! good luck on
finding a new job!


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-18 16:50 [#02419448]
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I called my old boss, eventually he wants me back. I dunno
about this....i'd rather stay at home, read and play
games....


 

offline spculum from MÜÜT on 2011-08-18 17:31 [#02419449]
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you should take some holidays... be more outdoors in contact
with the sun (vitamin D). If you can pay for a holiday take
a flight somewhere. You will appreciate your problems from
another angle.. for sure.



 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-18 18:52 [#02419452]
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I also want to stay at home and do nothing all day..problem
is that it doesnt pay my bills..

Compliments on calling your old boss straight away! I'm
amazed by your action :-)



 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-18 19:12 [#02419454]
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Thats why i am all for communism.
It is mentally and morally injurious to man to do anything
in which he does not find
pleasure, and many forms of labour are
quite pleasureless activities, and should be
regarded as such.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2011-08-18 19:32 [#02419456]
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that's because it's pleasureless that you're paid for it


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 12:46 [#02419614]
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So, i am reading a book about the methods of cognitive
behavioural therapy. It seems that modern psychology still
can't explain why I have problems in social situations.
The ABC model is pretty simplistic and i have my doubts if
it is helpful.

Compare modern psychology to other sciences lets say nuclear
physics...it is a joke



 

offline taking_the_piz on 2011-08-21 12:48 [#02419616]
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Half of the explanation is in the definition of the
problems. If psychology cannot explain your problems, odds
are you haven't got your problems well defined.


 

offline spculum from MÜÜT on 2011-08-21 13:13 [#02419618]
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half the problem is seeing the problem....
bum bum bum bum



 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 13:57 [#02419619]
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The problem is i dont like being around people.
Now, no one ever in my family told me that people in general
are dangerous and even if, how can such second hand
experiences have such an impact on a person..


 

offline taking_the_piz on 2011-08-21 14:07 [#02419620]
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How about being more specific. You know, coping with your
so-called problem might be really easy if you'd be more
specific.
Trick is to be as specific as possible. Describe the person
and the situation you last felt it. How did he behave. How
did you behave. etc...

This is cognitive therapy 101. Son, I am disappoint.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 15:38 [#02419626]
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Hey i am just starting. Right now there isn't much to
describe cuz the way i handle isn't optimal but it works.


 

offline taking_the_piz on 2011-08-21 16:34 [#02419632]
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1.
It seems that modern psychology still can't explain why I
have problems in social situations. The ABC model is pretty
simplistic and i have my doubts if it is helpful.


2.
Hey i am just starting. Right now there isn't much to
describe cuz the way i handle isn't optimal but it works.


Allow me to try to define your problem. It's all in these 2
quotes. First let me tell you it's good that you're doing
something about your problem (for whatever you think it is
right now).

Second, from the looks of it, you're pretty quick to judge
whether something would be successful or not. There's
probably a couple of things going on behind this
self-fulling behavior:
1. the belief your problems are too difficult/big for these
simple solutions (well the thing is: how can you know as you
aren't able to specify what your problem is?)
2. it's a form of self-protection. Because well, let me
state the obvious: your problems have become part of your
identity. And your unconscious won't let it go that easily.
It has become part of your defense-mechanism.

After all these years your problems have become a source of
certainty. And it gives you your significance Your need for
significance is your biggest drive for thinking everyone in
your environment is so dumb, btw. It's simply a way to
distinguish yourself from your environment. And an
unsustainable one at that. What might also be important is
that your problems have become a incentive to learn new
things. Which can be rewarding in and of itself.

What I think you should do is to ask yourself what your
world would look like without your problems. What's the
difference? If your problems are really a defense-mechanism,
what are the underlying fears? Why the need to defend?
Be honest towards yourself about your need for significance.
And try to look for other ways to meet these needs. Also
understand (emotionally, NOT logically!!! logically you're
already there. you need to understand emotionally) that you
can still have the rewards of learn


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 16:55 [#02419633]
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Oh i have to think about that and maybe write more later.

The first step of cbt is to learn this abc model. However
and here is something i do not understand: If these
automatic thoughts are unconscious, no one has really access
to them and therefore they are impossible to change.



 

offline taking_the_piz on 2011-08-21 17:26 [#02419636]
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Nope. Not impossible. Difficult, yes. It's not much
different than writing music. You have to really digg into
yourself to the point when you get a clear idea about your
inner feelings and what not. Forget rationalizing your way
out of this. Logic will only help you after you have
discovered these inner processes.


 

offline Steinvordhosbn from London (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-21 17:57 [#02419643]
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Save it for this messageboard


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-21 18:15 [#02419648]
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Psychology = science too, they have to prove theories are
right just like nuclear science has to.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2011-08-21 19:10 [#02419651]
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> The problem is i dont like being around people.

That's the symptom, not the disease.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2011-08-21 19:24 [#02419652]
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If these automatic thoughts are unconscious, no one has
really access to them and therefore they are impossible to
change.


You can acces them by analyzing what you do (more than what
you think), as if it were someone else. You can ask yourself
"Why would someone do this?" You can find let's say 3
possible answers A, B and C, but none seem to apply to your
case.
Later you get to analyze some other weird/bad thing you've
done and find 3 other reasons, after some time you will see
that some reasons occur more often than others, sometimes it
just echoes weirdly in you, sometimes you realize that
actually reason B explains so many things and later you
accept that it's actually true. A psychoanalyst can give you
a good sight of what you look like from the outside.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2011-08-21 20:04 [#02419654]
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I just remembered a sentence I heard recently, that really
illustrate how I see my life: "Beware of what you want
because you're gonna get it." But it applies to everybody.
What we have is what we wanted, no matter how much it sucks.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 20:25 [#02419656]
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If you can access unconscious thoughts, they are by
definition not unconscious (anymore) I highly doubt if
(clinical?) psychology is a science after all, because there
hundreds of diffrent kinds of therapies. If only one would
actually work, you wouldn't need the rest.

I however think it is a noble idea to help people or
humanity to be more in control of themselves


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2011-08-21 20:43 [#02419659]
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what is wrong about not liking to be around people ? that's
perfectly reasonable as most of them want to make your life
miserable. there's nothing weird about that.


 

offline big from lsg on 2011-08-21 20:49 [#02419660]
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Everybody feels pain sometimes


 

offline yann_g from now on 2011-08-21 21:46 [#02419662]
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I highly doubt if (clinical?) psychology is a science
after all, because there hundreds of diffrent kinds of
therapies. If only one would actually work, you wouldn't
need the rest.


Some therapies can work better in some cases, and other
therapies in other cases. Do believe in a medicine that
would cure any disease?


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-21 23:39 [#02419664]
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Dodo bird verdict

And Bruce Wampolds study:

In 2001, Bruce Wampold of the University
of Wisconsin published the book The Great
Psychotherapy Debate . In it Wampold,
a former statistician who went on to train
as a counseling psychologist, reported that
1. psychotherapy is indeed effective,
2. the type of treatment is not a factor,
3. the theoretical bases of the
techniques used, and the strictness of
adherence to those techniques are
both not factors
-Wikipedia

That should be enough now. Im not saying psychotherpy is all
bullshit....just don't expect too much from it



 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-22 00:43 [#02419665]
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I'm currently having very strange feelings, like im being
overwhealmed with emotions from different angles, maybe over
tired and thinking too much.... i hope i will be ok....

the feeling is really strong over my chest and i think maybe
it's like a panic attack, i've never had anything like it
before, normaly i am well balanced....

if anyone has any advice i'd appreciate it, i am serious btw
i can't stop thinking negative things and my breathing is
strange.... over thinking seems to be the cause, too many
ideas about humanity exsistence etc etc but i don't know


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-22 01:38 [#02419666]
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have a walk outside and try to relax


 

offline Geoffrey Mills on 2011-08-22 03:20 [#02419670]
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i love u james


 

offline Geoffrey Mills on 2011-08-22 03:22 [#02419671]
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its amazing how ppl react to the obvious on a forum. i
applaud you.


 

offline jnasato from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2011-08-22 03:23 [#02419672]
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Sometimes popping half an e up the ass every few days helps.
Put on sunglasses to block bad vibez from going into your
eyeballz, whilst focusing intensely on the goals you want to
achieve. Then eat cilantro or natto, which taste so good.
You will then feel like jillion dolla, especially cuz e up
the ass.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2011-08-22 03:34 [#02419675]
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money doesn't make you happy, so popping e up your arse only
gives cancer to your anus.


 

offline larn from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2011-08-22 05:26 [#02419676]
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I'm ok now, i think it must of been stress overload, a
physiological attack that made me actually halucinate the
walls having different angles.... fuck man that is not good


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2011-08-22 05:47 [#02419677]
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Maybe the american goverment hid mind controlling devices in
those walls?


 


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