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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-30 18:25 [#02139330]
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There's a theme of disliking having to do press for music running through comments from the likes Mr.Jenkinson, Autechre, Aphex Twin, etc. - as well as lots of other bands.
I understand the procoess of making music can be hard to quanitfy in words and all that, but I mean, it can't be that bad, can it? I mean - oh no - people have an interest in your music and they want you to talk about it. How awful!
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-10-30 18:27 [#02139331]
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is horrible, isnt it? even pornographic...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-30 18:30 [#02139333]
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cuz musikal introverts are like fuck off and have agoraphobia
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-10-30 18:37 [#02139335]
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Their skewed perception has placed them into a snobbed-out alcove from where they view the musical press with hostility?
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rad smiles
on 2007-10-30 18:44 [#02139339]
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most music journalists really suck though
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-10-30 18:45 [#02139341]
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Good electronic musicians tend not to come across well in interviews. If they have a laugh it pisses fan boys off because they haven't listed their equipment. If they do it seriously they sound like total knobs.
I will never be in the situation of having to do interviews for my music but if I was I could never explain why I did something because I don't even know.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-10-30 18:49 [#02139345]
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I will never be in the situation of having to read music journalism.
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rad smiles
on 2007-10-30 18:58 [#02139347]
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you dont read reviews or interviews?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-10-30 19:00 [#02139348]
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Not often.
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rad smiles
on 2007-10-30 19:37 [#02139356]
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not often or never?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-10-30 19:38 [#02139357]
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or sometimes or always?
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Sano
on 2007-10-30 19:47 [#02139360]
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El señor Tom Jenkinson gives long lenghty interviews, you're crazy CS2x, even Ricardo D James gives and always gave interviews, you have no point whatsoever!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-30 19:50 [#02139362]
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What he said is still correct because he said 'situation of having to read' and he didn't have to even if he did, so there fags.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-10-30 19:51 [#02139363]
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that's a bit harsh... while it's true that both Jenki and RDJ have given interviews (some better than others) before, there is still some merit to what CS2x is saying... More than a few musicians seem to express displeasure in dealing with journalists, or at least it seems so to me.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-30 19:51 [#02139364]
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Actually he was speaking in future tense.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-10-30 19:52 [#02139365]
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you're software needs a downgrade.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-10-30 19:53 [#02139366]
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ahaha, christ...
your*
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Sano
on 2007-10-30 20:11 [#02139370]
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I was half joking, c'mon I even used an exclamation point for Pete's sake but it's still valid, RDJ is a natural maestro on his marketing, it's all a play, if you read some of his 200 and more interviews you can tell that he knows what to say and what not, he never reveals too much because he knows that mystery sells since that keeps people talking about him/gear/techniques, Squarepusher is also always happy to give interviews, there's even a video interview where he shows his studio.
Mystery sell period, some need it more than others, some others are just plain weird even in real life like Gerald Donald.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2007-10-30 20:44 [#02139376]
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Hehe, you clearly know what you're talking about here. I've only read a handful of articles on any particular artist, but I have noticed the trend in RDJ's interviews that you mention.
I should've known you were joking.. I wasn't sure if you were serious but I was just looking out for CS2x :)
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michelnicholas
from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-10-30 21:09 [#02139388]
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yeah he knows what he's talking aboot. Gerald donald... man that guy is cool.
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Sano
on 2007-10-30 21:11 [#02139392]
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I just don't think it's that much different when you compare to other artists, actors, etc, also IDM is serious business!
And yes on a very lazy afternoon I've read all those RDJ insterviews from that .doc it was interesting to find his influences and how the mystery connects to his appreciation with Drexciya who untill the death of the main man behind it, no one really knew who they were.
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michelnicholas
from 'Round the Bend... on 2007-10-30 21:14 [#02139393]
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i woundnt say no one. i live right by chicago though, so maybe i was lucky. it trickled down from detroit, which is only 3 hrs away. i guess i WAS lucky really...
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PS
on 2007-10-30 21:18 [#02139394]
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I knew about them too and I live almost on the other side of the world! This was maybe six or seven years ago.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-10-31 07:41 [#02139470]
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There's some interesting responses here. I agree that RDJ is playing a very clever game with his marketing. I think if you get too familiar in your approach then the mystery dies, and that doesn't help the "buzz" or sales.
I know Squarepusher and Ae and plenty of other bands do quite lengthy interviews on lots of occasions, but within those interviews I can remember plenty of remarks pointing towards what a pain it is to do those interviews or to talk about the music in general. In fact, a recent snobby remark in a Squarepusher interview sparked this thread off, but I can't remember which one it was. :-(
Artists in the ambient scene are quite different, and it's refreshing to see. People like Robert Rich and Steve Roach actually seem to enjoy talking about their music and sharing their approach to it with the media and with fans directly. It doesn't need to be about sharing anal technical info or saying why you put that sound here or there. There are lots of other areas to explore in conversation connected with music making.
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2007-10-31 08:19 [#02139479]
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I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that usually journalists have no idea who there talking to and will ask crap questions that have been asked a million times over, then take what you've said and bend it all to their own ends, then an editor will come down and chop it all up until there's nothing left apart from "I hate Underworld", and then the artist has to spend the next 10 years explaining why they said that in an interview when they probably didn't anyway and it just spirals down and down and down.
What influences you? How do you make your music? What other music do you like? Is IDM dead? What does drukqs / campfire headphase / Freak / electro / acid / etc mean?
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