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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2002-03-18 11:04 [#00129923]
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Man,
I love this album. The second side, all the ambiet stuff. It's excellent. I think it should have been called "David Bowie and Brian Eno - Low" though, because it's just as much Eno as it is Bowie.
Anyone else in here like it?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-18 11:07 [#00129924]
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My mate is a big Bowie fan and taped Low and Heroes for me. I keep meaning to give it a listen. I've got Eno's Ambient 1 which is class. Any recommendations for more Eno?
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RobE
from London (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-18 11:08 [#00129927]
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Yes.Had "Low" for years...never get bored with it. }:>
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watermelon man
from auckland (New Zealand) on 2002-03-18 11:18 [#00129934]
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eno:
music for films another green world music for airports
and his work with talking heads
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2002-03-18 12:15 [#00129949]
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(waiting for a reply from postmodernvancouver) :-)
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sgt growley
from Deal (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-18 13:29 [#00129978]
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It's brilliant! Probably more thanks to ENO than Bowie. I think it's the best album he did, Heroes is almost as good.
It must have been the first mainstream pre-electronica record.
I'm gonna dig it out again and have a listen. Thanks for reminding me ...
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lctroboy
from Borås (Sweden) on 2002-03-18 14:06 [#00130005]
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Hmmm, i think i'm gonna go check this out at my recordstore right now. Never heard this... thanks for the tip m8's.
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Inverted Whale
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-03-18 14:37 [#00130016]
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My favorite Eno albums are On Land and Apollo.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2002-03-18 15:30 [#00130049]
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yeah this album is one of my favorite bowie works. i saw him live a few years ago at the Paramount in seattle and he played a couple of those ambient tracks; subteraneans and something else. it was agreat show too. Bowie really likes seattle and was very personable to the crowd.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-03-19 07:19 [#00130814]
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Bowie is ze man.......eno's not too bad either. hehehhe =0) great CD. i have a very large bowie collection. not too much eno but watermelon man's suggestions are good....i've heard two of them =)
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2002-03-19 10:30 [#00130936]
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Yeah, I'm a big overall Bowie fan too. I thought that the people on this board would be into Low (it.s probably my favourite Bowie album, the ambient pieces are so haunting), but I'm also a fan of his poppier, guitar-y stuff. Hunky Dory is a classic - Queen Bitch, Quicksand, etc. Diamond Dogs is amazing, and loads of his singles are well good.
I used to sing in a Bowie tribute band!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-19 10:33 [#00130938]
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I love some of Bowie's stuff too. Diamond Dogs etc. The Man Who Sold the World is class.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2002-03-19 10:40 [#00130944]
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I also used to be well into the Brit band Suede - Animal Nitrate and all that. Anyone else?
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-19 10:45 [#00130945]
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low is a stunning album-'alwats crashing in the same car'ooohhhh-have you heard heroes? there are some class bowie /eno composistions on the flip side. i love hunky dory as well, queen bitch is a fantastic tune...
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-19 10:46 [#00130947]
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and space oddity-great....have you heard the reissues with bonus tracks? anyone herad bowie at the beeb? worth picking up?
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-03-19 11:06 [#00130974]
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i wasn't sure about his forray into drum n' bass.
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-03-19 11:07 [#00130977]
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yeah-bit directionless...and not very good.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2002-03-19 11:22 [#00130986]
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Well, Bowie has done some total shit in his time too. The DnB was pretty awful (although I thought Little Wonder was OK). Also, Tin Machine were abysmal.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-21 05:01 [#00911808]
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yeah, I've heard this is probably mostly Eno, but on the cd Eno is only listed as a co-writer on one song... and as a keyboard player and stuff... so who says he had such a huge influence? I've always heard he did...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-21 05:02 [#00911810]
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and yes, it does rule!!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-10-21 23:09 [#00913150]
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everyone should OWN this album, it's really almost perfect. i've had it for several years, and like RobE said, i've never been bored by it.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-22 01:20 [#00913232]
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A New Career in a New Land, or whatever it is, is such an amazing song... it's one of those songs which make me feel for those few minutes that the world is alright... that everything is ok... then it stops, and all the crap comes back...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-22 01:28 [#00913238]
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incidentally there's a pretty rare electronic tribute to "Low" called "After Low".. the only famous artist on it is matmos who cover "A New Career in a New Land". the cd is included w/ a book.
low is far from "mostly Eno", funk. some say it's 50/50 bowie/eno but i'd say it's more like 60/40 bowie/eno. still very significant but bowie's role is not to be underplayed (just look at all the instruments he's credited to playing in the liner notes).
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-22 01:30 [#00913240]
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well yeah, ok... maybe not mostly... but I had read he had a big part to play... and in the booklet he's listed as a keyboard player, and maybe some more stuff, and he co-wrote one of the songs... I don't see what big huge part he played from that...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-22 01:40 [#00913253]
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yea we discussed this before.. they did writing credits differently back then (if you didn't write the lyrics or the main melody you didn't get a credit) as well as producer credits. maybe back then eno didn't know how to really produce a band or singer, just how to play instruments. i have no idea, i haven't read a bio so i don't know when he really honed his producer chops (my guess would be his work w/ the talking heads a few years later).
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-10-22 01:42 [#00913258]
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yeah i was about to point out that as well... i think a lot of people dont realise just how experimental bowie is/was...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-22 01:43 [#00913259]
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nod, I know... I just wonder how people really know Eno played such a big part if it's not said so on the liner notes...
and I always though, from what I read before buying Low, that Brian Eno was the producer on the Berlin albums... I was surprised to see he wasn't...
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-10-22 01:44 [#00913261]
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i have the japanese version of low... with a bonus track called "some are".. check that track out... its very good... then get the phillip glass version and it'll blow you away.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-22 01:49 [#00913267]
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eno was the producer of the berlin albums. if you want to say collaborator, fine, but in today's terms he'd definitely be labeled the (co-)producer.
his role on low and the other albums is greater discussed in books, articles, and interviews.
"some are" is terrific!
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-10-22 01:53 [#00913273]
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have you heard the Buddah Of Subburbia soundtrack by Bowie? theres some Bowie instrumentals on there that are incredible... esp: Ian Fish U.K Heir...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-22 01:55 [#00913275]
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no i haven't.. i'll look it up
did you know low evolved from the intended soundtrack to the man that fell from earth?
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-10-22 01:58 [#00913276]
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Saw him live the other day, if other people are seeing the tour, look forward. Its gonna be great.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-22 01:59 [#00913277]
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yeah, he is or was playing here... not sure if the concert already happened, but I'd love to see him... I've always been a fan of him, even though I've only recently started buying some of his albums...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-22 02:00 [#00913284]
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*man that fell to earth..
bowie performed low in its entirety i believe for the first time last year in NYC.. he also performed heathen in its entirety and finished the night off with some other classics. i'd love to hear that show..
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-22 02:09 [#00913291]
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I heard the new Bowie song over the weekend... forget the name... but the video and song were real good...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-22 02:35 [#00913327]
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New Killer Star is the name... I thought it was a cool song, with a great video!
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-10-22 02:58 [#00913384]
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eno was the producer of the berlin albums. if you want to say collaborator, fine, but in today's terms he'd definitely be labeled the (co-)producer.
err...Low is one of the two Berlin albums (other being "Heroes") - and no, he didn't produce any of them, or Lodger.
It was Bowie and Visconti.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-23 01:49 [#00914574]
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David Bowie also seems like the most down to earth person you'd meet... I mean he's one of the most successful musicians around as far as sales probably, critical acclaim, and just net worth... he's one of the riches musicians around ain't he? And yeah, he's been critically acclaimed throughout his career, and he's world famous, etc, etc... yet he always seems so down to earth, and just a plain nice guy... he's hilarious too... so yeah, I have a lot of respect for David Bowie on many levels... as a person, musician, business man, etc...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-23 16:27 [#00915612]
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err...Low is one of the two Berlin albums (other being "Heroes")
no, there were three, you forgot lodger which is also considered part of the trilogy.
It was Bowie and Visconti.
yes, i know. but by the definition these kids have of what a "producer" is, eno would fit. at the time he was just a musician and co-writer but because of all the treatments he did he'd be considered a co-producer today.
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-11-16 17:29 [#00952588]
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no, there were three, you forgot lodger which is also considered part of the trilogy.
Lodger was produced in New York
yes, i know. but by the definition these kids have of what a
"producer" is, eno would fit. at the time he was just a musician and co-writer but because of all the treatments he
did he'd be considered a co-producer today.
no, he wouldn't.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-17 01:19 [#00952917]
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still an amazing album! :)
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-11-17 02:45 [#00952972]
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Side 2 of Low is fucking piddle.
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