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"Set in 1983, ‘This is England’ is the story of 12-year-old Shaun, a bullied youngster still reeling from the death of his father in the Falklands War. During the course of his summer holidays, Shaun makes friends with a group of older skinheads, who take him under their wing and show him the time of his life. But the arrival of racist ex-con Combo changes the dynamics of the group, triggering anger, resentment and eventually violence" I just got home from watching this film and thought it was amazing.In some places it was incredibly heart warming and amusing, but other scenes were some of the most upsetting I've seen. The setting was spot on. It was filmed in Grimsby and Nottingham somewhere, but I've no idea where; nowhere I've ever seen. The whole thing was so genuinely 80s, including the shop faces and the houses, the costumes and the graffiti, even the grimy, gritty film quality fitted perfectly. Has anyone else seen it? |
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Those were the days. No I've not seen it, but it sounds interesting and I'll be sure to look out for it. I could Google for the director but I am going to ask who it is here. Or is it a newcomer? |
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Just saw Dead Man's Shoes tonight, great film. Forgot I downloaded this one, got to see it tomorrow. |
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It was directed by Shane Meadows and accorded to IMDB it was based on his experiences as a youngster. The film was dedicated to a lady who died in 2005. Her surname matched that of the actor who played the main character, and so I presume it was his mother. |
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Total Film raved about this film -- it's on my to-watch list. |
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Yeah it won 3 awards and had 5 nominations and won Best Film at the Berlin Film Festival 2007. |
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it's brilliant and gritty. the acting, story and not to mention the music set to it. i think shane meadows is one of the most talented directors/writers out there right now. and dead man's shoes is a must to watch! |
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Yeah I'm really looking forward to this. |
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nice one, dling |
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slightly connected, is england, pathetic and weak, letting out its final croaks of death. is wales, which looks to be absolutely fucked too. |
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I NEED THIS |
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There has been much discussion about the BBFC awarding the film an 18 certificate, despite the fact that many of the actors are below this age. Some councils, including Bristol have seen fit to overule the certificate. I hadn't thought about film classifications until this case came up. I think that once you reach 16 you're ready to see anything. Hell, you can join the army and train to be a killer at 16. |
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Watched Dead Man's Shoes tonight, and now I'm totally looking forward to seeing this. |
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Yeah, you're right actually. It did cross my mind how the certifiacte for this was a bit strange. There's no sex scene as such and no scenes of murder as such.. but there are actual scenes from the falklands, a lot of swearing, violence and racial hatred. I wouldn't know myself what certificate to put it under, so I guess they were just playing safe to avoid getting a load of complaints. I suppose they also wanted to ensure that they were directing their film at an audience who was old enough not to get too easily brainwashed by some of the stuff the characters say. But I suppose that's no age group really.. |
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This sounds like pretty pointless social realism. What makes it good as a film? And I really don't get Dead Man's Shoes. It's seriously one of the worst films I've ever seen, from the black-and-white flashbacks with corny old-film filters to the dreadfully unnecessary twist at the end. And the realism, the painful, fetid realism. |
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i heard the director used to make films with his dole money - theres some inspiration |
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What's wrong with realism? And was there a twist? |
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Which is the inspiration; him or the dole money? |
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I think I remember a twist, we discover that oh god his brother was dead all along. Realism is good when it's done tastefully (like say the films from the Dardenne brothers) but more often than not it's an excuse, a lazy veil of grittiness and boldness over a collection of clichés. It's a lie and brings nothing new to cinema. But actually what annoyed me the most in Dead's Man Shoe was the music. It's not a soundtrack, it's just some compilation of cool tunes playing on top of the images. It's pure filler. Don't. |
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Is this a nasty film? I really want to see it but I don't really want to go to the cinema to sit through something thats just going to upset me. If it is too 'gritty' and 'realistic' then I will just wait for the hyperactive, technicolour, super effects Hollywood spunk of Spider-Man 3, Pirates Of The Caribbean 3, Die Hard 4.0 and Transformers. I went to see Sunshine and I thought it was shit. I've come to the conclusion that I think Alex Garland isn't that good a writer. |
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Really liked this film, gripping without being relying on shock and melodrama. Gives a good insight in the nature of hate groups and gang mentality such. It's a very interesting period too, musically and culturally. I like that dialect, by the way. Scouse? |
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So something like irreversible was too much for you then? Anyway... I thought dead mans shoes was really very, very good. I really want to see this film as well. |
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Pointless? How? Like I said, the director made it based on his own experiences as a kid and the film was a tribute to the lead actor's mother. How could that possibly be pointless? I think if you'd read my first posts or any of them thereafter you would understand why I thought it was good as a film. Indeksical, it's a moving but excellent film. If you want Hollywood then don't go and see it. That's one of the reasons I liked it so much I think, because it is so English and unHollywood with no special effects or overacting. I loved the genuine humour in it and it all seemed very natural. You might get upset but you'll also be touched by it I think and laugh a fair bit. Sclah, Combo (the main racist mental guy) is scouse, but none of the others are. It was filmed in Nottingham and Grimsby (east midlands). The woman in the shoe shop is very much from Nottingham, eg when she says Show-der instead of shoulder. Not sure exactly where the Shaun and his mum are meant to be from because they moved to the area, so don't think they were originally from there. They sound Northern to me. Everyone in the film is meant to be from the midlands upwards. |
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I thought you ment Combo from this board for a minute, didn't make much sense. Lister from Red Dwarf has a scouse accent, right? |
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That's what I mean, retelling your little personal life experiences doesn't necessarily make great art, however real and harsh and emotional and. This is especially true of cinema, which is much more than basic storytelling (which by the way is probably the least interesting part). So anyway, I haven't seen it, how's the film? Irreversible is quite great and I wouldn't call it realistic. |
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Ha, no I did choke on my drink when Combo first came on though and I heard his name :D Darius: Urgh just read the thread to find out how the film is. What more could we possibly tell you? Why don't you watch it instead of going on about something you have no idea about. I'd hardly call what this lad goes through "little". What do you want from film? |
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A bit where a man chews off his own hand and a complimentary backrub? |
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I think Combo hasn't noticed this thread yet |
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OK, you could describe it as a twist. But it was cliche-free IMO opinion and not in the tradition of so many Hollywood thrillers. I wouldn't just describe DMS as 'realism'. Yeah, it is made on an indie budget and goes straight for a potrayal of human relationships as they are lived by many working class people in Britain. But to just tag something 'realism', and then dismiss it for this is a bit lazy IMHO. I'm not familiar with the Dardenne bros. but your comment regarding realism is rather sweeping and your dismissal of DMS is a bit hollow. Care to furnish us with some detail? |
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I know, I'm bored and trolling. I don't actually have anything against realism itself. I don't consider it a realist film either by the way. Just reacting to comments I've seen praising the film for its realism, regarding the acting particularly. As if naturalism is some kind of great ideal, when it's just another way to make a film, and a pretty dangerous and limited one at that. SValxor: As a film, how's the film? I've only seen you talk about the story. |
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Darigriff0r: I'm not entirely sure what you mean, I don't think. The soundtrack, the filming, the storyline, the actors and the setting were all amazing. What else would you say makes a film? What would you like me to tell you about? |
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there's character named LOL |
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i thought it was quite shit, funnily enough, the main reason being the storyline. better than the shawshank redemption though. |
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This film (haven't seen it, but) reminds me of 24 hour party people in the way it captures the era. Captures the aesthetic of the time really well. Im in my 30's so I grew up with the most awful films and tv shows depicting music. 24 hour party people was the first movie that got the feel for a time and place in music and culture. These sort of films could be explored more, imho...Id like to see Gallo make a film in this vein. |
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the firrst half of Dead Mans Shoes is grreat. |
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I speak like Combo. |
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I thought this was an awesome movie apart from the last 5 mins which was a bit sappy and a bit like a crappy pop video. |
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It was fucking excellent. top notch. |
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it was good, not great, but good |
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