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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-03-07 05:22 [#02059231]
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to this day i think his best track is swap,trigger off of lipswitch. latest thing i liked from him was that one off of cautella called arc-acid. and ofcourse asect;dsect was full of good ones... asect:dsect was his fist 'diverse' album, wasn't it?
i like his music because (to me at least) it is so ridiculously hyperactive, and i like where he goes with his beats & timing in certain tracks. when i got lipswitch when i was like 17 i was all over it. id try to dance to it and sort of almost die
i am not into his new 9.1 Surround Sound / HD-Audio / Psycho-High-Production Value stuff. i think for his stuff it doesnt really work. in my opinion at least. i like the sound of lipswitch over all that because it's so fucking bum-raunchy, gross/crunchy.. it has this under-the-gutter personality to it
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-03-07 05:41 [#02059234]
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Generally, I find about 95% of his music to be quite boring. Yes, it is technically great and can be a mindfuck to listen to, but it doesn't necessarily make for enjoyable music.
What I really do like from Devine is his "proper" tracks such as vecpr, floccus, itsuko, etc... though the autechre references have been done to death, these are about as close as anyone else has got to the magic of albums like confield/lp5 for me. Still, I do think his music lacks the character of ae's output, but that may simply be because autechre have been around longer and covered more ground musically.
I loved his remix for Enduser though.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-03-07 05:42 [#02059235]
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Oh yeah, and sigstop is fantastic too.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2007-03-07 06:23 [#02059245]
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Devine has a remix on Otto Von Schirach's "Armpit Buffet" that should not be missed. It might be my favorite track of his. That or Kepter off Lipswitch.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-03-07 06:25 [#02059246]
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do you have that new surround stuff ??
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-03-07 06:33 [#02059251]
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i mean he mentioned making a dvd about one year ago - i am desperately waiting for this one.
i would also love to hear that stuff he made in a cinema in 16:1 surround - must have been blasting.
my absolute favourite track of his is still corina chirac - i just love how there is this certain pad melody in the back that just goes on and never comes to the foreground.
but i have to admit that i like this "ambientish" tracks a lot more. they really make you feel like it was some movie soundtrack and i love to hear other peoples thoughts or visuals on them. my friend still has nightmares after listening to them :D
i really love the person richard devine himself like his is just devoting all his lifetime into not even music, but sound. i mean he makes sounds for internet sites (halo 2) in the morning, afterwards he tweaks some presets for synthesizers for ni or ableton, the helps with producing albums and still finds time to jam and make his own tracks. wonderful person.
oh besides - for all those richard devine lovers - check out EINOMA. they sometimes sound so similar i cannot believe it's not another alias of richy.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-03-07 06:35 [#02059253]
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i wonder if that 3lp "sculpt" thing is so rare or is it just me who cannot find it? it's impossible to dig this up on p2p for me.
oh and please don't search for his "polymorphic ep" i can imagine that he kills every man who asks him about that ep
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-03-07 06:37 [#02059255]
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i'm just quite curious if he actually makes all that sounds out of synths or if there are any recordings involved - i mean some of the sounds just seem too organic for me to be created digital.
the same goes for shapeshifter from the schematic label. worth checking out too.
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-03-07 06:45 [#02059261]
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haha, i quite like the polymorphic ep actually. it is so out of place compared to the rest of his material, but I still give it a blast every now and then.
untz untz untz untz untz untz untz untz
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-07 06:48 [#02059264]
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it's official: richard devine isn't too bad.
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skeksi23
from ∆ on 2007-03-07 10:51 [#02059393]
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i think hes a bit boring apart from that 1st 12 on schematic.......new stuff just is all flash and no track
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-03-07 11:19 [#02059412]
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"'m just quite curious if he actually makes all that sounds out of synths or if there are any recordings involved - i mean some of the sounds just seem too organic for me to be created digital. " he uses both samples and synthesis, probably more often than not granular sampling manipulation. On cautella one of the tracks is a preset on the Kyma abused for literally one minute unaltered, thats synthesis. The DVD has been on the back burner for ages, i have no idea why hes taking so long with it, lets hope once its done its a little more surgical 5.1 than his live show (which was just him masturbating with a circular surround sound panner on nuendo with no rhyme or reason)
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-03-07 11:20 [#02059413]
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wait so he hasnt put out a 5.1 thing yet right? im a little confused by statement cygnus made above.
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trewq
from doodam (Netherlands, The) on 2007-03-07 11:21 [#02059414]
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there isnt a worser idm artist you can think then richard devine
i mean he is american and fake idm producer should be from the uk and dont release that much stuff
and they shouldnt burn synthesizers too look cool
fake ass richard devine
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-03-07 11:22 [#02059415]
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haha, probably sarcastic but yeah the lighting the keyboard on fire was the most anti climactic ambient attempt at being a rock star ive ever seen.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-03-07 11:32 [#02059421]
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releasing that much stuff
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thatne
from United States on 2007-03-07 11:36 [#02059424]
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it doesnt seem to have enough groove, his music. i want to like it but i just dont.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-07 11:39 [#02059425]
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News just in: It turns out he's still rubbish.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-03-07 11:42 [#02059427]
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i dont like all these artist that, at my ears, sound like autechre. i need afx copies, not ae's ones...
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-03-07 12:12 [#02059437]
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R.devine does not even come close to sounding like autechre, man. thats just my opinion
autechre's much more precise, much more progressive. it intensifies over time, richard devine hits peak intensity as soon as you hit the play button. its like he does not care, he's all like, "fuck you!" it comes closer to nokturnal mortum, the gates of blasphemous fire or something like that, its like speed metal
like, most of his songs are just based off of the kick drum. its always the loudest thing throughout most of his songs, and its what leads all the rest of the elements. and its always like,
THdHHdRRUuduDUDUDUD-duDUDU-DOM-DOM-DOM-DOM it's definitely much less time-oriented than autechre but i think if your mood is, "man, i dont really fucking care. i just want to hear some funky ass noise" then it does the job so well. the man knows how to make good ass beats
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-03-07 12:24 [#02059440]
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sadist: corina chirac is a good one man, thats probably one of my second favorites off of asect;dsect. i like it better than itsuko.
the surround sound stuff i'm talking about has only been in live occaisions lately and they haven't been anything worth going to from what i've heard. hes been saying hhe was going to do that dvd for years now.
brisk: i think it is like almost impossible to compare richard devine and autechre. autechre is most definitely a "thing". it has personality and style and it goes somewhere. it exalts the listener. richard devine music is much more ridiculous, much less serious and more about 'right here right now'.
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-03-07 12:35 [#02059445]
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yeah i maybe can see the old RD stuff being compared to AE but not the new stuff. And whats wrong with people being influenced by AE? imo it opens up for a more creative result than copying APhex, squarepusher, or boc. The reason it because autechre switches concepts from song to song and even though they have a very distinct sound design aesthetic (which is very hard to duplicate with as much style) each song sounds distinctly different from one another imo.
i agree with your assessments on why Devine's stuff is so pleasurable. Its like a sensory overload beat assualt. I prefer his fast dancey shit that has so many sounds and little fragments your brain cant even tell whats going on.
im not a big fan of his ambient interludes or beatless works which unfortunately on some of his albums takes up 1/3rd the disc
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-03-07 12:37 [#02059446]
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at the very least nobody sounds quite like Richard devine
its like Bobcat Goldthwait, he may be too annoying for some people, but its undeniable his act was pretty unique and you cant really compare him to anybody (even though i think hes shit)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-03-07 12:49 [#02059450]
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at the very least nobody sounds quite like Richard devine
That's because parody has its limits.
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gravity_again
on 2007-03-07 13:15 [#02059458]
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Speaking of Richard Devine does anyone have any live recordings? I only have this one - Live @ the NYC Nesh Warp party [22-6-2001] and I cant find anything else. Also if you like his more ambient tracks check out his remix of Ryuichi Sakamoto - Seven Samurai.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2007-03-07 14:26 [#02059472]
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well i think its basically impossible to sound like autechre. autechre does not even sound like autechre. every song is sb&rb being a different new band and autechre is the genre of those bands. thats been my point of view anyway
influence from autechre/afx/pusher is all over the place - but it's much more than just a consequence of impression. i think its most unfair to say that someones musical art is only the consequence of an impression that was left on them. as if a strong enough impression just kicks over the kettle of creativity. the reason a positive impression even happens is because of other positive impressions they've been left with. the reactions to the music are all obviously connect to one another.
if that was not true then one would find listening to Drexciya, for example, displeasurable, and then pleasurable at a ridiculous rate. like as fast as your brain could forget that you liked what you were hearing.
it's like a chain-attack. one notices that people who hate this kind of music are on other chains of pleasure. looking for other stuff. it's all just what you're looking for to satisfy those pleasure centers in your brain. thats why its so asinine to judge peoples musical art, its like calling an apple "foolish"
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2007-03-07 14:27 [#02059474]
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he's absolutely boc sounding
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mrgypsum
on 2007-03-07 18:25 [#02059553]
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his stuff, well most of his stuff grows on you - at first it is very dense and mechanical - very sterile - but it hits you with its precision - i myself am mesmerised by the precision in the music, its what draws me in - i do however have to be in the right mood for devine. i just wish he would release more instead of say what releases he WILL be releasing, for instance where is that ghostly release? he is starting to sound like phoenecia, where the hell is lewd archives?? whats going on with producers from the us, their output is dropping off to nothing.
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