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offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2007-02-28 15:40 [#02056462]
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anyone got any personal experiences to share? just wondered
like. shit gets fucked up by vices. ok scrap that topic. any
addicitions. drugs/hookers/gambling/whatever

how have you taken it? how has it/is it affecting you? and
tings.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-02-28 15:47 [#02056466]
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I have seen a couple of close friends die and one end up
having his losing an because he couldn't kick his heroin
habit so decided to commit suicide by jumping on rail
tracks. He hit the 'third rail' and bounced back off with
the electric shock but got that badly burnt they had to
remove his arm.
I've got other people I know who sell the shit to anyone who
can find the money to give them. I know kids in the area
who's parents leave them on the street in the freezing cold
until they get kicked out the pub or score their fix.

Yeah excessive drink/drugs is shit.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-02-28 15:48 [#02056467]
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having his losing an = losing an arm.

Dunno how I mangled it so bad.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-02-28 15:49 [#02056469]
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Oh and let's not forget my mate who was murdered last year
outside a pub because a couple of piss heads decided to twat
him for no reason.


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-28 15:50 [#02056471]
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if you maena addictions, then only fags. but its bad enough.
the only druggie i know is a tramp in gloster incidentally,
called mike who used to live in the toil;ets by the bus stop
that they closed.


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2007-02-28 15:53 [#02056472]
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When I went to Uni I came back at Christmas to find two of
my friends using heroin. In three months they had changed
into steriotypical junkies. It is very sad and the worst
part of it is there is nothing you can do.

I have only known one alchoholic and I watched him go from
bad to worse over a cvouple of years.


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2007-02-28 15:54 [#02056473]
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You have mixed alcohol and drugs and can't write properly?


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-28 15:55 [#02056474]
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ive never known one over a long period and never while they
are becoming addicetes. i dunno what i would do but
definately try to stop them becoming addicted.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-02-28 15:57 [#02056476]
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Possibly but JD with PCP never normally effect my writing.


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2007-02-28 16:02 [#02056481]
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You can't stop them, you become unimportant, in their scheme
of things (unless you have money or drugs) It is one of the
most frustrating things you can ever go through.

I told one of my friends parents so that they might be able
to help. They went into rehab met some other addicts and
started using with other like minded people.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-02-28 16:03 [#02056483]
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Just tell them to watch Requiem For A Dream. It's that bad
and boring they will top themselves and you won't have to
worry about them ever again.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-28 16:23 [#02056511]
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when i came to poland and got tho secondary school i got
into a really really bad relationship with some local guys
from my school.

after a month i was smoking all sorts of weed everyday. we
started from one gram for us three, then after half a year a
gram per person.

i can remember how we all were beta-testing all that new
stuff that dealer brought us. at the beginning some normal
weed, after some time there was this stuff that had some
consistency near plasticine. then there was this time where
we got some brown stone-like shit which tasted more like
something between hair-gel and poo. i have actually no idea
what that shit was.

the shitty thing about that was that weed works quite
euforic and let's cally it "happy" but that last chemical
stuff just caused massive halucinations and depressive
feelings. i never had the guts to smoke something like this
alone, rather wanted to have someone nearby to take care but
i have to admit that those guys were rather more
disturbing.

at the time when i was continuing to school drugged everyday
i came to the conclusion that i have to cut this or else. so
i decided ask my parents if i could change my school
pretending that i didn't like it. that was the first step -
i still lived nearby them but i did like hundreds of sports
and so on just for having something to tell them i'm busy.

i haven't smoked a whole joint since then (4-5 years).

when i talked to my friend (not one of the druggies) from
that old neughbourhood lately he told me that they are all
going on acid, amphetamine and other shit stuff, robbing
people or doing worse things.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-02-28 16:26 [#02056516]
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a gram? Am I missing something?
I used to smoke at least 1/8 oz. a day which is about 3.5
grams.

And redrum smoked a fucking field of the stuff an hour.


 

offline oyvinto on 2007-02-28 16:35 [#02056528]
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i guess he meant pr joint? and 1 gram pr person sounds like
a heavy deal to me, unless you have some really shitty
products


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-02-28 16:37 [#02056531]
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A gram per joint??? fuck me!


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-28 16:51 [#02056541]
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i gram per session - i mean we went to the dealer, bought
one gram and finished it it in a few minutes by kettle, diy
pipe from plastic bottles. we didn't use joints a lot.

the 1 gram per head was more about few hours. if i would
inhale the whole thing at once i wouldn't post here anymore
i guess


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-02-28 16:55 [#02056545]
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That isn't really that much then. Enough I suppose for you
to be sensible enough to recognise it was more than you
wanted to be doing on a regular basis.

It's good you can limit yourself, some people lack that will
power.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-28 16:55 [#02056546]
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it is much and it isn't much i guess. when you think of
"normal" grass it sounds not very much i i can tell you that
plasticine shit was some high condesed material.

i have to admit that at this time i wasn't really realising
much and my brain was in some kind of slo-mo. and i got used
to the fact the forgetting about that time is the best thing
to do so i might confuse some facts


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-28 16:58 [#02056549]
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this stuff i meant. so it was hash then. man i still don't
know most of those things that got through my lungs. i don't
even want to search for ingredient facts.



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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-28 17:00 [#02056550]
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Marihuana - 0,5-5% THC

Hashish 2-19% THC

i guess that's quite self-explanatory why 1 gram seems so
much


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-02-28 17:00 [#02056551]
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Solid is the easiest stuff to buy in Britain. It is what
most kids associate with weed. Some of it is absolute shit
though.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-02-28 17:01 [#02056552]
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That was the stuff I smoked about 3.5 grams a night of but
obviously mixed with tabacco :P


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-28 17:03 [#02056556]
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and and here is the plasticine stuff

i remember once having the biggest puke of my live
completely toxicating myseld with this shit.

i remember that the next day i found a stone in my pocket. a
normal garden stone. afterwards my "friends" told me that i
thought this was the most beatiful stone ever and that i was
very agrresive and wanted to hit them when they told me to
throw it away.


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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-02-28 17:08 [#02056559]
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i'll never touch that shit again. maybe i'll smoke a regular
joint once but i'm really afraid.
i mean i got something like a "block" right now that even
when people offer me some spliff i say no


 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-02-28 17:09 [#02056560]
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...clean and sober for 3 years. (as of March 5th anyways)


 

offline Sclah from Freudian Slipmat on 2007-02-28 17:27 [#02056567]
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Where are you originally from?


 

offline thatne from United States on 2007-02-28 18:06 [#02056577]
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i had a big alcoholism a while back had
it bad i got delerium tremens and halluc
inated weird french boys tortured by gan
gsters and djinns and deafmute girls sign
ing sign language and puked a lot, not fun.
hallucinogen toxicosis is different i guess
but i always enjoyed using hallucinogens.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-02-28 19:17 [#02056591]
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i'm beginning to wonder if i have a drink problem.

i used cannabis excessively (going through about a quarter
to a half a day for about 4 years) during my teenage years
and am severely paranoid as a result (see glade 2004 or
whenever it was for evidence).

a lot of my friends are turning into coke fiends.

erm, that's about it.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-02-28 19:23 [#02056595]
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also, a guy i live(d) with is a pretty bad valium addict..
and literally all his problems stem from it.

he's a sorry state in the midst of a binge but other than
that he's a lovely chap. it's a real shame.


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-01 00:06 [#02056623]
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pretty much all my friends are drug addicts.
but the drug addict/professional kind, not the drug
addict/criminal kind.

only time will tell.


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-01 00:09 [#02056624]
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Treating this thread a lil more seriously though, I have
noticed that it is almost impossible for me to be
happy/socialise/have sex/be creative/tollerate other people
unless im drinking which is becoming a concern. Just being
so young its hard to identify a difference between this and
regular youthful enthusiasm for drinking plus the aura of
"cool" that goes with it.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2007-03-01 00:52 [#02056629]
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parents poles emigrated from poland to germany about 80-82.
then 86 i was born in germany and we lived tere until 99,
then we moved all back to poland.


 

offline ebolawasher from Dublin (Ireland) on 2007-03-01 02:42 [#02056663]
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You can't have sex without alcohol?

BAHAHAHA!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2007-03-01 04:10 [#02056684]
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Quote from a colleague who used to make/sell drugs (he was a
chemist), "Drugs are great fun and provided you have a
modicum of responsibility, not half as dangerous as people
make out. Sadly, you have to be a part of the whole drug
"scene" to get anything good and most of the people involved
are utter twats, who are far more dangerous and
unpredictable than the drugs themselves."


 

offline ebolawasher from Dublin (Ireland) on 2007-03-01 05:50 [#02056717]
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that's a great quote


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2007-03-01 06:49 [#02056744]
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yes how very true.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2007-03-01 07:05 [#02056750]
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i dont wanna be a pinhead no more
i just met a nurse that i do go for


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-01 17:50 [#02057046]
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Of course I can. I just prefer to be drinking.

Ceri JC: Good observation. I too have thought about those
aspects of drug use too. If drugs were legal we could have a
governing body that helped prevent bad gear/an industry run
buy drug addicts and gangsters.

Also I think a lot of the unrealistic propaganda out there
about drugs from governments has a placebo effect on users
making them think they're more fucked than they are.
"Eh I'm feeling down today I must be fucked on drugs"



 

offline ecnadniarb on 2007-03-01 17:54 [#02057050]
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I asked one of my mates for a quote so I could be as good as
Ceri but my mate just stared at me, grinding his teeth,
without blinking.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-01 17:58 [#02057053]
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I've decided to cut back on weed, mainly because of how it
affects memory. Whenever I've had a good time stoned, a
sober remembrance of the event reveals nothing much more
than the fact it felt good. Specific details of the time are
hazy and dream-like. What's the point in doing something if
you can't remember it properly? I suppose it's good because
it's fun, but still...


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2007-03-01 18:01 [#02057054]
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prescribed and over the counter drugs are just as bad.

you see adverts for such vague symptoms that prey on the
weak and ignorant:

"feeling down, having trouble with the day to day and feel a
bit cloudy? well try new xyz tablets to brighten up your day
and reward yourself with a sense of well being"



 

offline HmND from your mom (Israel) on 2007-03-01 18:07 [#02057055]
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I smoke quality weed with hash once in half a year. I had
problems with it when I was 14, I used to smoke every day
and eventually got caught by the cops cause I was stupid.
Fucked me up a bit, but I'm alright. The incident made me
rethink my attitude, so I started researching more
information about drugs and how they affect the mind etc and
came to conclusion that this world is insane. Yes.

I also tried acid 2 times, but it was impotent shit that
didn't affect me at all. Never had addiction problems with
anything either. Or loss of control problems.


 

offline HmND from your mom (Israel) on 2007-03-01 18:14 [#02057057]
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And yeah, one of the problems with drugs is that in order to
get them, you have to get into a big chaotic mess of drug
scene, which is full of retarded fuckheads who are more than
willing to stab you in the eye for no reason at all.
After the police incident I told myself that I'm done with
it, and never got into the "scene" again. The only drugs I
get now are from trusted and loving friends.
I also know much more about the drugs than any of those
little dickwads on the streets looking for ways of getting
high. Knowledge is power.

Planning on trying Salvia soon, since it's legal here. Maybe
some 5-meo-dmt or 2ci too, since I have trusted sources. I
also think that I'll be growing my some psylocibin shrooms
and maybe weed. It's not a problem to order all this shit
(cannabis seeds or mushroom spores) online.


 

offline diastole1 from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-02 01:04 [#02057137]
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Hmmm. Let me just say I'm Back, I'm Better. AND it's now 4
years of cleanliness on march the 17th...oooooh, yes that's
right, how ironic (in a way) it's saint patricks day!

I didn't want to add to the woes of the board and depress
you, but maybe perk things up a bit and say that
"everything's o.k now". WHO NEEDS DRUGS WHEN YOU GOT TUNES
LIKE WHAT WE ALL LISTEN TO!!!!! I certainly don't. I went to
the WAREHOUSE PROJECT,and it was very much like a rave and
everyone was off their tits, but I wasn't, and remained
sober throughout.

The gig was shit coz the acoustics were wank and not because
I wasn't on drugs, but I got to meet a few peeps who I
admire.



 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-02 07:06 [#02057293]
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you can pretend all you want, its never as good as when your
fucked. HA :P


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-02 07:11 [#02057297]
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Wise words.

Being on drugs is brilliant.


 

offline edgey from New York (United States) on 2007-03-02 08:42 [#02057337]
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Your colleague is a smart man. :)


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2007-03-02 10:09 [#02057380]
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I'm going to sound like a total Dad but:

If any impressionable kids read this thread it would
probably help their decision making process. What a
resposable bunch we are!!!


 

offline B123 from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-02 19:40 [#02057674]
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You can go either way with that comment. its important to
represent the positives of drug use as well as the negatives
for complete representation of the issue. (fuck how shit can
I be at times )

Otherwise when people take them and realise how amazing they
can be, they can often feel like they've been lied to which
can fuel an otherwise avoidable over-use of drugs..

Un-biased accounts of drug use is what is needed in this
world.

and less posts by B123


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2007-03-02 19:46 [#02057678]
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I've got a mate who grows weed, so I pop over to his for
some decent bush now and again. Wouldn't even be arsed with
that resin shit. A line of quality charlie on special
occasions is nice, too.


 


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