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Akirai
from Atchison (United States) on 2007-02-03 13:06 [#02044339]
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hey guys, a while ago i said i made a music video for Girl/Boy Song. i still need some help trying to get it cleared with Richard to submit it to the the upcomming TV show competition "The Lot". i'll keep digging but if anyone really knows EXACTLY where to go the help would be much appreciated here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWpf0zNxgNk
hope you like it
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7Pd
from britney's upskirt vagina on 2007-02-03 13:09 [#02044341]
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0/10
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2007-02-03 13:14 [#02044346]
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there is another new member called Akira. in his avatar is Vegeta.
i hope not to get confused.
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Combo
from Sex on 2007-02-03 13:16 [#02044349]
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I like it very much!! U have good editing skills. The atmosphere of the vid was unreal and bizarre. Very impressive.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2007-02-03 14:55 [#02044407]
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that was pretty good, kind of reminds me of the videos i was making in high school. some of the same flaws mine had tho too.
imo if youre going to make it a 5 min + video you really need to have some kind of narrative structure. synched up footage is good for shorter, 1-3 min videos, but past that you need something else to really keep the watcher watching and move the story forwards.
other than that, it was quite well done. some of the little glitch outs could have been a bit more in synch with the music, but thats more regarding the software than your skills as an editor.
now that i have a macbook, kind of makes me want to dig out my dv cam and see if i can still whip things up in imovie like i used to.
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Akirai
from Atchison (United States) on 2007-02-03 15:18 [#02044418]
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thanks for the feedback! it's supposed to be under 5 minutes, though. i kind of agree about finding another way to keep the audience captivated, but i think i still did an alright job putting new stuff on the screen.
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shady
from chicago (United States) on 2007-02-03 20:58 [#02044607]
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COOL VIDEO! hope it wins the contest.
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zero-cool
on 2007-02-03 21:58 [#02044643]
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holy shit your avatr looked like it was a bus underwater, in deep water! with a futuristic green neon robot scanning the depth?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2007-02-03 22:43 [#02044653]
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so kind of like a really bad take on the 'On' video
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zero-cool
on 2007-02-03 23:29 [#02044735]
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licensing@warprecords.com thank me later
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-02-04 02:12 [#02044824]
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i'm very impressed! i really like the ideas, but the editing lacks from time to time. most of the video it looks like i'm watching some soundless video, while listening to girl/boy song. the ideas are great though! and that's arguably the hardest part.
develop some editing skills (yeah, i know it was a hard track!), and your camera work could be a bit more improved as well. for instance, the shots where the children are building a sandcastle, the camerawork is too static, i think. more shots of their hands from their own point of view would have added a bit more action. ...but i'm nitpicking.
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Akirai
from Atchison (United States) on 2007-02-05 08:19 [#02045234]
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i don't know is anyone will ever see this, but oh well.
mappatazee: i've never seen the 'On' video.
zero-cool: Thank you!
goDel: thanks for the feedback. i made this video a few years ago in iMovie so yeah, the editing was lacking. but i definately agree with what you have to say and, looking at it now, about 2 years later, i wish i'd done a little more to it.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2007-02-05 09:17 [#02045256]
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"on"
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melack
from barcielwave on 2007-02-05 09:55 [#02045268]
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honestly, my opinion based on the first minute of the video is that is is pretty horrible... sorry for being disgusting, i dont like being like this, and it could have been a nice video, because the kids and the track, but the stupid speech at the beggining of it ruined it all.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-05 10:59 [#02045302]
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I did think it was the "On" video combined with BOC-like imagery. Some of it was really nice, thre's a bit with the kids in what looks like the front yard (as you Americans say) and I liked them on the rocking horse things, but it was too much of the same thing "sped up kids doing what kids do".
The speech at the begining saying "I'm here to show you things you've never seen before" was a pretty grandiose claim.
I say all this I couldn't have made that video. 6/10.
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Akirai
from Atchison (United States) on 2007-02-05 11:42 [#02045320]
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OKAY, real quick people, i'm REQUIRED to make an intro video for this contest. the intro video was not there for the actual movie. this is for the TV show "The Lot", and the rules say you need to include a 30-45 second intro to yourself and your movie. just an FYI.
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Akirai
from Atchison (United States) on 2007-02-05 11:47 [#02045323]
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and frankly, i disagree with any claim that my video is any kind of "take" on the video for "On". if anything, David Firth's music video for Girl/Boy Song is a take on the "On" video, not mine.
this is his: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdZs5PVcwBs
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2007-02-05 17:20 [#02045454]
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I'd say neither of your videos are takes on "on"...
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2007-02-05 17:37 [#02045463]
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i liked it a lot. good work
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-02-05 22:57 [#02045599]
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What is it called in the UK, let alone Chile?
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-02-05 22:58 [#02045602]
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Oh, and nice video. Good luck with the competition.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-05 23:02 [#02045608]
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LAZY_TITLE
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-02-05 23:14 [#02045624]
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I'm always quite disturbed when I see xltroniconians in 'human' form.
3/10
mm, this song never had that big of an impact on me, but if I made the video, I'd make all the boy parts doing fucked up stuff like killing/destroying/unleashing an army of slugs in sync with the percussion only. And the girl parts would be healing things the boy destroyed/loving/creating beautiful things in sync to the melody only.
The best part was when the boy grabbed the penis of the penis sand castle. Other than that it is mostly normal film of normal stuff sped up. And one time the girl fell down right on one fitting persussion hit or something, but music videos in general should be very in sync with the music, the shining example of which is the autechre dvd.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2007-02-05 23:20 [#02045631]
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Agreed. Your idea is much better, w M w. Or at least one I'd have rather seen than this one.
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Akirai
from Atchison (United States) on 2007-02-05 23:34 [#02045637]
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i agree. that is an excellent idea.
keep in mind real quick i made this when i was a junior in high school. i wanted to make an experimental video and i loved the song. things feel into place at least alright in my opinion.
i like the feedback, positive and negative. the opinions expressed here mean a lot to me because i know you guys really, really appreciate and like Aphex Twin's music probably a lot more than i do (which is to say that he's an artist on my big database of artists, but not necessarily my top one. you get what i mean.) so i know if you say it needs work, you mean it, and you think his work should be shown in the best light possible. so thanks for everything you've got to say.
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OK
on 2007-02-05 23:56 [#02045640]
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your database of artists?
say something _belch
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b6662966
from ? on 2007-02-06 02:00 [#02045707]
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I want to savagely beat the children in the video. Other than that yea, cool beans.
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Akirai
from Atchison (United States) on 2007-02-06 17:54 [#02046187]
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to OK: yeah. i mean like, all the artists i listen to. i listen to a lot, and Aphex Twin is just one of them. he's not like my absolute most favorite, but i still admire and appreciate all his work.
to b6662966: you want to savagely beat my sister and neighbor..? eerrr. okay? that's definately a different reaction to my video.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2007-02-06 18:31 [#02046197]
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Errr, I don't know, kids have databases of artists now, instead of record collections, .. I'm lost mate, the future's accelerating into the distance and I'm left holding my atrophied johnson.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-02-06 20:34 [#02046221]
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After such an introduction you could have made something at least a little bit special, come on.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-02-06 20:45 [#02046224]
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To all music-video-makers out there: please please please stop doing this perfectly and painstakingly synchronised to the beat editing. It's been done to death, and it's so fucking futile and boring. Try to find new ways to go with the song, try to think of something, I beg you.
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Akirai
from Atchison (United States) on 2007-02-07 08:17 [#02046436]
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i haven't seen very many of these kinds of videos. granted that i most certainly HAVE, but i think it's very fitting.
maybe you're right. maybe we do need to break away from this trend. as for me, when i made this video when i was 16, i hadn't seen any of Aphex Twin's other music videos, or very many videos that synced the video up with the song in the way that mine does.
i guess you could say it was a "good idea at the time".
i appologize that everyone seems to dispise the introduction so much, but i hope you're all keeping in mind that it's required of me to put one in there for this contest and it should not effect your movie watching experience outside just a glimpse at the film maker. i must sound like a broken record but thank you for all feedback, positive and negative.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2007-02-07 11:08 [#02046512]
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I've a couple of them on my hard drive but I think they're all fake. Some of them are pretty nice though.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-02-07 19:42 [#02046853]
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I'm sorry for being so harsh, you're nice. At least I give you credit for not trying to subvert the things the children do, which would have been cheap and vile, and just showing normal Things Children Do as is.
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b6662966
from ? on 2007-02-07 20:25 [#02046855]
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dariusgriffin is a pedophile. I bet he masturbated to the very children i wished to savagely beat.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-02-07 20:41 [#02046858]
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yep
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sirmailbox
from chicago area (United States) on 2007-02-07 23:34 [#02046887]
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I know that others have already commented on the intro, and I don't mean to beat a dead horse. Rather, I just mean to explain WHY I think it needs to be changed.
You sound really pretentious and stuck up. "I have some really unique ideas" -- that makes me form a bias against the movie before I've even seen it. Be more humble, try not to be so ambitious.
As for the movie itself, I like the concept, it definitely fit the song. But it got old pretty quick. And some of the effects were really gimmicky, like the one transition that was like a big ripple, like a rock being thrown into the watery television screen.
I was impressed with certain parts of it though. Especially good was the shot of the kids in the yard near the street. You can see this big, fat tree in the background, and it just looks really sexy and lush moving really fast.
Maybe you could try putting in shots of other things doing similar things to what the kids are doing, in order to break up the monotony a little? For instance, the two kids are wrestling in one shot. Then it shows two crazy looking ants wrestling either in the next shot or soon thereafter. Just you know, change it up a little.
Well, nice work, but man -- get rid of that intro. All it does is make me think you're a super pretentious liberal art guy who thinks that he daily thinks of things no one else ever has. I know that's just a stereotype in my mind, and you seem like a very nice, humble individual on the thread, so my perception's obviously wrong -- but most viewers won't have the advantage of talking to you personally.
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Akirai
from Atchison (United States) on 2007-02-08 17:05 [#02047547]
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thanks for the feedback, sirmailbox. i really appreciate it. i'd like to point out real quickly that i say "I think i have a lot of really unique ideas". this is completely open to everyone's opinion because i merely said that i THINK i have these ideas, not that i truely and honestly do. there are people on American Idol who say they think they have great voices but they get thrown out faster than simon could finish his insult.
i very well may be nothing special. but i'd at least like to err on the side of confidence than to say "i hope i'm good enough". i don't think people make it big by saying "well, i had a feeling i was going to make it big. guess i just got lucky!" they make it with confidence and i think that's what they might be looking for on this show. if i'm wrong, then i'm wrong, and i won't make it, and i'll live.
here's another thing: i didn't find out about this contest in time for me to make an entirely new movie specifically for it. making a good movie takes time: this movie took me a long time my junior year. i don't think i could've put something together by the 16th that would've matched the quality of this movie, which i think isn't so bad, honestly. i do agree and acknowledge that the shots might (and probably do) get monotonous, but the DVD is burned and ready to ship to the show as soon as i can get the liscencing agreements for the song. so there's not much i can do about it.
this video i hope gives a taste to people that i do think differently, at least differently than the average run-of-the-mill Hollywood filmaker. it's impossible for me to make a movie that ecompasses me completely as a filmmaker: i can only provide a taste for you. you have to trust that i can continue to put out new and unique stuff multiple times in the future. if you don't, if they don't, then i won't make it.
but i understand everything you have to say. thanks.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2007-02-09 09:21 [#02047858]
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The techniques you use are now being used, if not (frequently) in Hollywood films, at least in mainstream videos and, worst of all, commercials, and have been for a long time. There's nothing radical about it anymore. Radicality is constantly recuperated, you need to always move on if you want to escape it.
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big
from lsg on 2007-02-09 09:25 [#02047859]
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the kids stuff is great, i do get bored but later than usual
you shouldn't apologize for anything and i don't mind you saying 'i want to create something unique' you'd be a dick if you wouldn't want to create something unique
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Akirai
from Atchison (United States) on 2007-02-09 15:44 [#02048023]
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darius: i agree that the techniques i'm using are starting to appear in hollywood films, but not in an enormous frequency. i haven't seen them that often and they appear to me to be few and far between. to come up with something COMPLETELY ORIGINAL is hard to do with the little resources that i have. they know that. they know that the movies that they're going to be receiving aren't going to be up to their standards of editing, acting, etch. what they're going to be doing (what they KNOW they'll be doing) is trying to see through to the main idea of the movies, to the concepts and writing, and find jewels behind the amatuer qualities they know they'll find in all these videos that they'll be receiving.
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