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Do you any set when he actually played live? No fake traktor shit. Only set I know is Live @ Orbit, Morley, Leeds UK. Sounds nasty, I love it. I`m sick and tired of traktor mixed tracks. Same affects, same transisions, same shit looping. All I want is live stuff, with mistakes, sounding diffrent than on the recod. So please tell me that playing shows live isn`t dead! And anwser the question why a show played from cds is called "Venetian Snares live"?? |
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you can always go hear autechre if you want 'live' stuff. aphex does djing see. |
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cause the snares man is fucking transmiting his life to the sound he is creating via mixing the cds... |
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live in the flesh. you can see him, hence "LIVE". Live DJ'ing. |
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Dude there were times when he played live from two computers. If you can give 2 dj cd players and pioneer djm 500 I can do a Venetian snares like mix. |
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dunno what's the difference between 2 computes and 2 cd players..i mean vsnares could do with anything that plays some crazy breaks at 200 bpm. |
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Difference? Computer is more interactive (ofcourse it depends on the software). Tracks played live (drum machines samples,effects,other kinds of stuff) will sound diffrent than on the records. Because it is imposible for a human to play the same thing twice (if we are not discussing Dj traktor, and Live click and play sets). Thats why I like Ae stuff, sometimes they play tracks from their records but they sound diffrent, they are recreated live. On words & music from aphex twin he said (asked about live shows I think): "Diffrent tracks require diffrent setups, and the whole process is fucking complicated...". Fuck yeah, traktor cunt. |
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he plays music for people who come to dance, not people who come to hear frequencies and/or analyze what modifications to tracks he's made. |
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Taking your thought even further, why go to concerts? We all have cd, mp3 players and speakers. My room is quite big I can dance here... |
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there you go. |
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No, there YOU go. Because I prefer concerts not cd/traktor stuff called live. |
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well, i said you should stick with autechre in my first post, didn't i? also, im sure you get opportunities to see jan jelinek there..he does one of the best live acts i've seen. |
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I`ve seen Jan Jelinek @ P?ock in Poland, great LIVE stuff. |
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Aphex Twin live is amazing! |
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the only down side to Aphex Twin live xperience is that so many people are dancing and having a good time that I find it hard to analyze what frequencies and modifications he is doing, and when I do figure out what it has just done I realize I could have done that in my own house AND would have had far more room to throw shapes and bust moves (if I wasn't to busy creating technically superior modifictions that is). |
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why is everybody so defensive with aphex when people knock the fact that hes a lazy fuck sometimes and refuses to play live? the guy gets paid huges sums of money to do whatever the fuck he wants. I think the reason he doesnt play live is simply because he doesnt have to, nobody can say "Hey ricard do you think you could do a 'live' set this time?' , his answer would probably be 'fuck off' |
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"All I want is live stuff, with mistakes, sounding diffrent than on the recod. So please tell me that playing shows live isn`t dead! And anwser the question why a show played from cds is called "Venetian Snares live"?? " the reason that its acceptable these days to DJ and not play live is because the GIG is up! Most 'live' electronic music for the past 7 years,. at least laptop gigs, are the performer hitting 'play' on some sort of wave file player. It wasnt until recently that things like ABleton live and fast computers made it possible to do a truely live electronic show from a laptop only. so to answer your question... the reason CD dj setups are acceptable for a 'live' gig and not just a 'dj' set is because there is a very fine live between what is DJing and what is live. it kind of irks me more electronic musicians arent willing to bring some hardware or at least something visually interactive. Even laptop only shows irritate me. Id much rather see someone using a drum machine. |
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im about to get live on ur girlie |
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haha and when elusive's done i'll join in. if what aphex does djing is that simple, why more people don't do it then? you hear people dj dull, static music that doesn't go anywhere..i've heard plenty djs but no one does it like mr. james. there. |
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well he may be lazy, but he's still the aphex twin. |
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"the only down side to Aphex Twin live xperience is that so many people are dancing and having a good time that I find it hard to analyze what frequencies and modifications he is doing, and when I do figure out what it has just done I realize I could have done that in my own house AND would have had far more room to throw shapes and bust moves (if I wasn't to busy creating technically superior modifictions that is). " That`s the way I think. People think that Richard is fucking amazing because it`s richard. But when you listen to his sets closely and you have a basic knowledge about djing and you are after traktor`s manual things are not that shiny as they appear. In fact I`m quite sure I could draw envelopes in time lime to describe what is he doing. Becasue every time I hear same tricks, looping, beat repat and other traktor tricks. On the other way we can look at Jeff Mills. He is playing 3 turntables and creating wonderfull mixes. Oh and he has no sync button. That`s a proper Dj show. As for masters of Laptops I`m still impressed by monolake shows. That`s how proper laptop show should look and sound like. |
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it's all about what he plays and how he puts it together not so much about technique!!!!!!! do you visit gigs to watch what dj is doing? or to have fun time and dance?? |
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I get your point. But I can dance at home or club. Is trarktor Djing all you expect from a legend? Or is it his face, the fact that he is 10m from you? In my case it`s music. I don`t care what performer is doing but I do care how it sounds like. And I can smell tractor from milles away. |
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i expect to hear awesome dance music, that's pretty much it. i like autechre a lot as well and jeff mills, but i can't go as crazy to their sets as i can go to aphex's..it's just not the same thing. i appreciate both, but i would probably be disappointed if i went to aphex's gig to hear some knob twidling..i would then have to go to another gig to let it all out, and there are very few (i can only think of amon tobin atm) dj's that can do a proper dance set. |
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when i saw him live he only screamed into the headset and twiddled the eq and flanger, so he didnt exactly do alot more than what he does now |
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I think Aphex is the greatest DJ of all time he mixes really difficult music to mix. With Jeff Mills it flows maybe smoother but thats because its all the same techno wich just flows automaticilly to eachother. Aphex plays records wich are deep underground and everytime there is a new set every is like what the fuck was that. Thats truelly fresh no dj is doing the same thing he dous mixing electro, hiphop, jungle, detroit techno and hardcore in the same set |
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nice to see someone else think that. it's silly to compare mills or aphex as djs as they doing two completly different things. and they both do their own things perfect. |
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"Thats truelly fresh no dj is doing the same thing he dous mixing electro, hiphop, jungle, detroit techno and hardcore in the same set " so no dj has mixed electro hiphop jungle detrout techo and hardcore .........lol (?) |
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"if what aphex does djing is that simple, why more people don't do it then? you hear people dj dull, static music that doesn't go anywhere..i've heard plenty djs but no one does it like mr. james. there. " the music he djs sounds extremely dull and static to me. so i guess different strokes for different folks then! |
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just to clarify, i love richard d james, i think he's a genius musician. which makes it even more shocking to me that his dj sets are so horrendous |
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why does a great musician have to be a great DJ? |
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One of the best live shows I've seen (in regards to experimental "IDM" stuff) has been Pan Sonic... They had displayed an oscillator overhead, broadcast onto what looked like a sheet, and began to make what seemed to be very random and chaotic elements (touching the end of a 1/4" plugged into a mixer), with lots of delay, then slowly began to adjust the delays into a coherant structure, and after 30 minutes the whole place was just swaying back and forth to the rhythm. |
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i liked the altered version of heliosphan in one of his sets he should do things like that more often in general i like most of his live sets i dl but some have been whacky :( |
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"so no dj has mixed electro hiphop jungle detrout techo and hardcore .........lol (?) " not in one set in order he does it..but i won't go in details, as im sure you wouldn't be interested. "the music he djs sounds extremely dull and static to me. so i guess different strokes for different folks then! " his sets are extremly dynamic (the ones i've heard live anyway) compared to other people. most dj's play sets in same bpm range..starts off with a song and ends couple of hours later with basically the same, somewhat, altered song..it's ok, but not very intriguing nor danceable..you just easily in same rhythm for two hours. unless it's vsnares but then you move in same, somewhat higher bpm rhythm, but again in same range from start to end. aphex does it much more dance floor friendly is all im saying. unless you like to easily move in repetitive way for two hours. |
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they're excellent, but their live thing is much closer to noise acts than idm. really good though, specially on loud speakers :) |
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