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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-26 17:47 [#02038726]
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Can you believe that this incredible film was not nominated for a single Academy Award? Shocking.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-26 17:51 [#02038729]
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... And Oliver! was deemed not only a better film than 2001: A Space Odyssey, but also to have had better direction! Unbelievable!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-26 17:57 [#02038732]
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Oh. I thought his would be paying tribute to the awesome J Dilla's last release.
A question: does every copy have loads of intrusive samples from said film or did I download a pirate-unfriendly copy?
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-01-26 17:57 [#02038733]
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Quite right too.
The Shining is a god film but horror films never do good at the Oscars, they prefer films about faggot cowboys etc.
2001 is grossly overrated tedious boring clap trap.
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skeksi23
from ∆ on 2007-01-26 17:58 [#02038734]
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is a good one eh, classic soundtrack and some totally trippy carpets
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-01-26 17:58 [#02038736]
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J Dilla R.I.P.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-26 18:04 [#02038740]
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<3
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-26 18:06 [#02038743]
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I wouldn't simply lump The Shining in the 'horror' category - it's a film of almost continuous sublimity. I thought I had grown weary of it, having seen it so many times but, looking through my DVD collexion last night for something to watch for bedtime I finally thought, "OK, I might as well put on The Shining," and I was captivated - I saw it in a light I'd never seen before - the clarity of the shots, the power of the cuts & the music; all these seemed magnified -- and I was only watching it on my laptop with table-speakers! And I finally saw the utter wretchedness of Jack Torrance, the unspeakable weakness of character. Maybe it was something I ate.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-01-26 18:10 [#02038748]
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the book scared me more than the film.
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-01-26 18:10 [#02038749]
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OK, I rephrase my sentence to "almost continuous sublimity films never do good at the Oscars, they prefer films about faggot cowboys etc."
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ecnadniarb
on 2007-01-26 18:10 [#02038750]
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Why? Was there a spider inside the cover?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-26 18:15 [#02038755]
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It's one of King's more effective novels, although it does contain the usual King Kopyrights: ineffectual ending, self-defeating waffling in some kind of attempt to build tension. I don't see any strong connexion between book and film (probably why King was miffed with it and preferred the abysmal mini-series).
The film is, naturally, more visual and has the added advantage of being able to use sound effectively in the building of tension and effect.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2007-01-26 18:15 [#02038756]
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hahah :D
No.
It just did.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 18:22 [#02038761]
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I don't remember seeing it but I hated most film versions of stephen king books. The shawshank redemption was great though and the green mile was good.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-26 18:24 [#02038762]
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based on the last sentence I'm afraid that I must now hate you forever. No offence.
The 2nd best Stephen King is The Langoliers. Awesome Awesome Awesome.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 18:24 [#02038763]
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"2001 is grossly overrated tedious boring clap trap."
Indeed, it is not good and it is tedium-film.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-26 18:27 [#02038769]
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But remember to back when it was released - people generally had attention spans longer than it takes to load up the next level of a computer game, or the five minutes of a television programme before the next batch of advertisements kick in.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 18:30 [#02038774]
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That's ok, at least my squijum loves me, don't you squijum?
*sqmurk!* *sqmurk!*
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 18:30 [#02038775]
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I don't just watch television film or play the games. But that particular film didn't excite me; i've enjoyed plenty of other slow films. there were parts I enjoyed, however,
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-26 18:36 [#02038779]
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Do you have a favourite slow film?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-26 18:44 [#02038788]
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jack nicholson's facial expressions and acting in this scene are absolutely astounding:
Jack Torrance: Wendy, let me explain something to you. Whenever you come in here and interrupt me, you're breaking my concentration. You're distracting me. And it will then take me time to get back to where I was. You understand?
Wendy Torrance: Yeah. Jack Torrance: Now, we're going to make a new rule. When you come in here and you hear me typing
[types] Jack Torrance: or whether you DON'T hear me typing, or whatever the FUCK you hear me doing; when I'm in here, it means that I am working, THAT means don't come in. Now, do you think you can handle that?
Wendy Torrance: Yeah. Jack Torrance: Good. Now why don't you start right now and get the fuck out of here? Hm?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-26 18:46 [#02038789]
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yes, my favorite slow-film is Andy Tarkovsky's Stalkery. Stalker is a good film. I also like Spirited-Away as from today more then ever, but it is not slow-film, it is anime.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-26 18:48 [#02038793]
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Spirited Away is a quite beautiful piece of animation.
For me, 2001: A Space Odyssey is a ballet - a beautiful, graceful, sterile ballet.
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RussellDust
on 2007-01-26 20:27 [#02038901]
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yeah, weird how he sort of bashed Kubrick's work.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-26 20:59 [#02038915]
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It's quite amusing to hear a horror hack (for he's little more) trying to criticise a film-making god such as Kubrick was -- two words, Stephen King:
Maximum Overdrive
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-26 21:27 [#02038926]
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I used to be really into Stephen Kings books. I haven't read the shining, but the movie is great!
The best stephen king book, imo, is It. I just loved it!
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-27 13:48 [#02039159]
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I hate to sound like a snob, but The Shawshank Redemption is one of the most overrated films ever. It often tops the public's All Time Best lists and, to my despair, lends support to the argument that most people are stupid. Leave lists to the up-their-own-arse critics I say.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-27 14:01 [#02039166]
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Let's both be snobs. Shawshank was nothing but a nice little feelgood flick. It doesn't even deserve half the status of Kubrick's Shining.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2007-01-27 14:15 [#02039177]
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The shawshank redemption is a very good film, I don't really understand how it can be overrated.
As for 2001, it came out in 1968, before the moon landings and has some radical features. It is also a bit boring in places, but the film is fantastic. The graceful movements of the spaceships docking with the station as the blue danube plays is lovely.
The SILENCE of space is brilliant and adds to the tension. The bit where he runs laps round the inside of the walls seriously made my jaw drop when I saw it. No CGI, they built a huge hamster wheel, but it is totally immersive when you watch it.
For the time when it came out it must have been so different and fresh.
The shining is alright. I don't really go in for horror films, but it's fun to watch with people who are easily scared 'cos you can wiggle your little finger and talk in a funny voice and they hate it oh and Nicholson is great fun in that film.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-27 14:29 [#02039189]
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Relative to other steven king movies I've seen those are better imo. I mostly remember this one where like people with zombie make up gather around and have a boring meeting in the woods or something; probably this 'shining' you guys are raving about.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-27 14:34 [#02039192]
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w M w, are you taking the piss AGAIN? Seriously, if you haven't seen the Shining go see it NOW! I'll call you when the pics are online again.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-01-27 14:42 [#02039198]
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I'd rather just complain about it despite having never watched it.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-27 15:47 [#02039212]
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You're starting to sound like a girl.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-27 16:58 [#02039224]
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Bah, I don't think The Shawshank Redemption is overrated at all. To say it's just a feel good movie is kind of missing the point in my opinion. For the majority of the movie the main characters are stuck in dark and depressing prison, and yes the ending is very nice and uplifting, but there's more to it then that. To me it's a cleverly written story, and the movie has a great script, great actors doing excellent performances, and great cinematography (sp?), music, etc. I'm probably a bit biased though, because I'd probably put it in my top 5 movies of all time list! :P
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2007-01-27 17:25 [#02039230]
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the shawshank redemption is one of the most over-rated films ever, certainly.
it's a piece of hollywood dirt.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-27 19:56 [#02039267]
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Amen - this is the #2 rated film on imDb... that, to me, is being over-rated. It's a dull piece of preachy shit, and is the film which put me off Morgan Freeman for life. Putrescence.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-27 20:01 [#02039268]
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is the shawshank redemption steven king? that doesn't make sense
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-27 20:04 [#02039270]
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It's from one of his collections of short-stories/novellas - I think it was called something like "Rita Hayworth and The Shawshank Redemption"...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-28 03:55 [#02039343]
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hahahahahaha, I thought you were joking, but then I looked it up @ imdb, and unless that's been hacked, stephen king is on acid!
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mimi
on 2007-01-28 10:09 [#02039522]
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boo, i liked shawshank, but i am sort of tasteless
i am kind of a sucker for thomas newman, but yeah he kind of goes well with this sort of movie, very sentimental
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mimi
on 2007-01-28 10:10 [#02039525]
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oh jeez #2 film of ever, though, i wouldn't put it anywhere near there
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2007-01-28 15:53 [#02039747]
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I have to chime in and agree that Shawshank Redemption was cack. Further evidence that it's time for tongues of purifying flame to lick the planet clean, as though the popularity of Forrest Gump weren't enough.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2007-01-28 16:19 [#02039765]
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the Shawshank Redemption, but I think its status amongst the general public is undeserved.
I think the King film with summat happening in the woods is the Tommyknockers. I tried to read that tome but only got halfway.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2007-01-29 10:31 [#02040255]
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I don't get all the dislike of the Shawshank Redemption. Must be that it's so popular that people have to hate it!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2007-01-29 12:18 [#02040356]
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Oh? The Godfather is ranked #1 on imDb.com, yet I've never met anyone who has seen it who has disliked it.
To say that it's decried because it's popular is very simplistic.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2007-01-29 12:30 [#02040365]
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Must be it! :-)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2007-01-29 12:42 [#02040372]
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hahah, I saw tommyknockers the other day.. or at least a little bit of it.. it was completely silly! The glowing rocks that made people orgasm and disappear/appear! hahaha!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2007-01-29 12:43 [#02040373]
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the book is even sillier. great read, highly recommendendnenedended.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2007-01-29 13:05 [#02040390]
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When during a conversation I learn that The Shawshank Redemption is one of my adversary's favorite movies, I know it's time to change topic to carpets or breakfasts or school or whatever.
The same goes for Green Mile.
Yes, I am a snob, a nonconfrontational one. Or sneaky as some people prefer.
I still love you w M w.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2007-01-29 14:02 [#02040483]
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Carpets? what the hell
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