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Is there a new one [coming] out? I heard something about this awhile ago, but haven't seen anything about it.. even on korg.com anyone? eh? |
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yeah it's been out for a couple of months the reviews i've read have said it's got some nice features, but after owning a KP2 for a few weeks and finding it to be utter shit, i'm sceptical |
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search youtube for it - there are 4 or 5 movies about it that are quite good. |
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For , it's pretty impressive. I've got a KP1 and think it's good at what it does (I'm no fanboy of it, mind). I really like the look of these, but would want to play on one first. |
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Has some youtube examples. Looks fucking lush. I got rid of my KP2 because it seemed useless in my studio, but this looks like its just the ticket. However, I wish they would allow you some control over what is controlled in the patches. It makes it kind of unintuiitive if the delay rate somethings falls on the x, then other times falls on the y. Also would be nice if you could customize the sounds a bit more. |
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Tried one at Music Live and it's great. The granular sampling fx are just great. |
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you could make a shitload more useful one in max in an afternoon using your trackpad as an interface. £300 is a fortune for a bunch of crap effects. |
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That sounds like the opinion of someone who has sat there and actually tried it out. |
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PS. You could make a patch in max that controls the frequency of a fart like a theremin using your penis as an interface. That still isn't going to stop you from being a wanker. |
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PPS. People who spend all day trying to make hardware into max patches for the sake of saying that they made it in max are wankers. |
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great opinions. |
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Yes. But I have tried max, and realized that I had better things to do with my time than becoming a wanker. |
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i'm not convinced. |
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I don't need to convince you that max will make you a wanker. It should be self evident. |
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best mindless knee jerk response i've seen on the net in months. well done sir. keep on trucking. |
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Its not a mindless knee jerk response. I am taking the piss. |
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Its amazing how many people on the internet seem to go around assuming they are the only inteligent people around. That generally ends after you hit puberty. |
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Thats the wonderfull thing about internets. Nobody knows when who is serious until someone shows up at your house with a shotgun. Or they end up |
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FUCKING AGREEED MATE! Alrite, Max/MSP can do some wonderful things, but I really cannot be arsed to sit at a laptop, looking even more nerdy than I already do trying to learn a programming language that I'll never properly understand. Mind, the demos are pretty nice. |
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I don't want to get involved in the "you could replicate this on the PC" debate (it's something I've done with other gear and I sit decidedly on the fence on the matter). I will say, however, that the kaoss pad's touchpad is vastly superior to the one on every laptop I have ever used. |
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honestly there was no debate. i just stated a fact and a few halfwits started posting. if you've got £300 to throw away then bob's your uncle. i honestly couldn't give a fuck. a small amount of work to save £300 bells is just 'a good idea'. i'm not championing the 'pc verus hardware' debate or saying max is the be all and end all. nor am i telling anyone what to do. honestly i don't post on this board much and there's always been a fair degree of twatery but i just couldn't be arsed with this. |
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I was just saying that whilst you can make an approximation of piece of gear x, it's seldom that close. Yes, you could make something that resembles a kaoss pad in max (and even Ableton Live and the lowly Fruityloops include preset things to do this). |
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ableton live was actually made in max, monolake used to have his old sequencers on his site. and whilst doing a version of an XY controller to control VSTs or homemade plugin's will not be exactly the same as a kaoss pad, it will be completely flexible, and if you're using a crack, completely free. it's reasons like this that after using demos and cracks for 18months i shelled out and bought max. i'm not trying to be elistist as the bloke above seems to think, quite the opposite. in his own words:- "however, I wish they would allow you some control over what is controlled in the patches. It makes it kind of unintuiitive if the delay rate somethings falls on the x, then other times falls on the y. Also would be nice if you could customize the sounds a bit more. " |
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Ummm. Yeah. What I mean is I don't want to be obligated to sit in front of a computer either. I like being able to move around when I make music. It makes me feel like less of a wanker. PS. honestly there was no debate. i just stated a fact and a few halfwits started posting. if you've got £300 to throw away then bob's your uncle. the words of a true wanker. Perhaps before you get into internets a little bit you should learn how to count. |
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And just before you start to whine any more I'm going to point out that you went in a thread where some users were excited about something and did nothing but insult it. That is trolling and didn't dignify any other kind of response. |
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having a different point of view isn't insulting, and i only posted for the benefit of people. its great reading back on this thread and seeing how rubbish your arguement is. |
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Well you certainly said they were crap and its a waste of money. I guess you could say that was "having a different point of view". I saw it as trolling. In many message boards if you just show up and throw out a negative comment that doesn't really add anything to the conversation its considered trolling and gets you flamed. If you don't choose to accept that opinion as anything but rubbish, then knock yourself out. Most people who have a little working knowledge of music production are fully aware of the fact that you can turn shit into magic with max. If you need any further examples, just look up the name PAWEL on most music making message board. He regularly takes good threads, and adds relatively unrelated jabs at the topic content, then big ups his "experiments" in supercollider (see: gourmet beats). |
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i reserve my right to be a negative cunt thanks. i was talking about the topic in hand, its not like i showed up and randomly called you a cockwit, i expressed a different opinion and pointed out a better opinion, if having someone disagree with you means that you have to start writing three posts in a row of insults then perhaps you shouldn't take it all so personally. and if you think someone is 'trolling' then why do you respond? that would be exactly what they want? |
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Yes, Pawel's stuff is shit. Next time someone slates floops and bigs up max/supercollider, I'll point them in the direction of this and then Midnight Request Line. |
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1 - Hey, before you undergo a gigantic brain hemorage due to getting unreasonably stressed from a messageboard, perhaps you should consider that most people who haven't learned max don't want to learn max, and you piece of advice was equivocal to telling them that they might as well use the body of a squid to the effect of a kaos pad? You didn't offer them a better option. Anyways, I might suggest you calm down a bit and not take things so seriously. |
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yes. |
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