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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-23 16:54 [#02006917]
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what the beat
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-11-23 17:23 [#02006923]
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http://xltronic.com/mb/87472/seinfeld-facts
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-23 17:27 [#02006926]
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ah shit, sorry
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-11-23 18:04 [#02006928]
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Stupid cunt. Good way of furthering a career
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-23 18:26 [#02006935]
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I don't really think he's a racist... I think he just let his anger get the best of him.
I mean, I don't consider myself a racist either, but if a black dude was talking a bunch of shit to me, I'm sure I would get racially insulting too... it's just the obvious place to go. Even if you don't say it outloud, you're at least thinking it. And since he's all amped up and in character on stage, I can see how he just spouted all that shit, to be as insulting as possible.
But I don't believe he thinks he's better then anyone just cause he's white, and to me that's the real definition of being racist.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-23 18:29 [#02006937]
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everything you said is invalidated by the "it's just the obvious place to go" statement.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-11-23 18:40 [#02006938]
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Yes snakeattack is right. If your knee-jerk reaction is 'stupid nigger' you obv have some racial prejudices
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2006-11-23 19:42 [#02006946]
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flipping out like that is unacceptable. if he's supposed to be a comedian he should have insulted the interruptors in a humorous way instead of using the n-bomb.
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b6662966
from ? on 2006-11-23 19:51 [#02006947]
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Apparently the black folks that he directed the comments at, did not even heckle him. The only disturbance they caused was when their group of 20 people walked in mid show and sat down, it distracted Kramer and he reacted by pointing out "the stupid blacks and mexicans sitting down," at that point someone in the group responded that he wasnt funny...then the fireworks began.
The guy sounds like obvious racist, you cant blame it on some kind of in-the-moment passion.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-23 20:31 [#02006950]
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What I mean by "its the obvious place to go" is that it's the fastest way to cut the deepest if your trying to insult a black man.
While I admit I may have some racial prejudices (every time I see an asian guy driving I slow down a little) I do NOT think I'm better then any person or that my culture is inherently better then anyone elses.
I love black people. Geordi Laforge. But if some black dude was in my face trying to start something, I know racial thoughts would cross my mind... I'm just being honest here.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-23 20:37 [#02006951]
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and to clarify... I recognize my "light prejudices" as a character flaw in my own personality. I have many just as everyone does.
In a perfect world we would all be united with the singular goal of exploring space and race would never be an issue.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-11-23 20:47 [#02006953]
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Haha! 'the singular goal of exploring space' fuckin'ell! You racist nerd.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-11-23 20:52 [#02006955]
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In a perfect world we would all be united with the singular
goal of exploring space and race would never be an issue.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2006-11-23 21:14 [#02006957]
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i think a vein burst in the back of m richard's head and for some reason he thought the comedic stylings of "family guy" would be appropriate at the moment. aka horrible, unoriginal and "edgey"
but seriously i agree with wolfslice, if m richard's was being heckled. if not, then maybe not so much.
and also seriously, family guy is the worst thing ever.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-11-23 22:36 [#02006975]
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I often go straight to racial slurs on SoulSeek...even though a few times I assume the person on the other end and I are the same race. It usually doesn't work as a good source of invective since they usually have a weak grasp of English.
For some reason racial slurs put to whites seem to have no emotional impact.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-24 04:32 [#02007076]
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I'm just a bleach-assed cracker ghost motherfucker. And you're right, those words don't upset me at all.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-24 04:38 [#02007078]
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maybe he thought he was being funny?
I actually think it could've played out like funny if the black dudes hadn't taken offence, but who knows.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-11-24 04:42 [#02007081]
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i take issue with the fact you assume everyone else has some kind of prejudice
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-24 04:54 [#02007085]
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everyone does have some kind of prejudice towards something otherwise you wouldnt have a preference for anything. youd regard everything as being of equal value.
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evils
on 2006-11-24 04:57 [#02007087]
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Calling them niggers was bad enough but going on to say that they should be stringed up outside is inexcusable! Especially in America what with that whole slavery thing and stuff, you know.
The fork up the ass bit was quite funny though..
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evils
on 2006-11-24 04:58 [#02007088]
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OK strung up before some anal cunt points that out...
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-11-24 04:59 [#02007089]
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yes quite, but i thought we were still talking about race?
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uzim
on 2006-11-24 05:02 [#02007090]
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nothing to do with Kramer (i don't know him anyway), but this word can be dangerous, especially when you're a foreigner/don't know it well... hearing it on hip-hop records all the time, said all naturally like it's an innocent word, would make you forget it's a very insulting word if you ever make the mistake of saying it yourself.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-24 05:03 [#02007092]
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Calling them niggers was bad enough but going on to say that
they should be stringed up outside is inexcusable! Especially in America what with that whole slavery thing and
stuff, you know.
The fork up the ass bit was quite funny though..
the fork up the ass bit was where he was saying they should (or rather, would've been) strung up..
it's not total hypocrisy in what you say, but it's approaching it
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-24 05:07 [#02007095]
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ok then do you find certain types of female more physically attractive then others?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-24 05:07 [#02007096]
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I'd say it's better that we hear nigger in neutral or even positive contexts; it'll eventually loose its negative force if repeated enough times in positive contexts
like if someone does something good that you approve of, and you go "that's my nigger!" or something
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-24 05:17 [#02007104]
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don't hold your breath
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-24 05:19 [#02007105]
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it's already happening
niggers using nigger when they talk about each other, and not necessarily in a bad way. that's progress, nigger!
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-24 05:28 [#02007109]
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thats not changing their attitude towards it being used by anyone of another race though. Its changing it in to 'their word' rather than 'the white mans word'.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-24 05:34 [#02007114]
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yeah, but if white men then also started using it in a positive sense, don't you think that would have the same effect? It'd require some time, and niggers would have to stop being offended if a white nigger used the word (that's self-stigmatising), but this is one of the words I don't find it unlikely that it will happen to...
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-24 05:44 [#02007116]
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It could be like the 40s and 50s again when people called their dogs or cats Nigger. Because they were black! It was just a bit of fun.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-24 05:45 [#02007117]
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I call all my friends nigger, and where white. Were not being rascist. We are making fun of caucasian middle class high school kids that listen to rap, dress like thugs and pretend that they go bombing on weekends. They are rediculous.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-24 05:46 [#02007118]
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So, was the topic of this thread supposed to be ironic?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-24 05:47 [#02007119]
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Sorry, title of this thread.
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evils
on 2006-11-24 05:52 [#02007121]
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"the fork up the ass bit was where he was saying they should (or rather, would've been) strung up..
it's not total hypocrisy in what you say, but it's approaching it "
It was a joke. You stupid nigger..
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-11-24 05:58 [#02007123]
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No no i see what you say. I was referring to racial prejudice. Obviously i have discriminating taste with things like women and food and music.
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nacmat
on 2006-11-24 06:00 [#02007125]
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I am 100% with kramer
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-24 06:20 [#02007129]
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You also have an oversized pink condom on your head.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-11-24 07:00 [#02007154]
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He'll probably be sued. Which is truly saddening. There is no free speech. Its bad what he sad, but if he gets sued and they win then this country is definetly shit.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-24 08:46 [#02007208]
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I just read an article that says he went off on some jewish hecklers awhile back as well... and that he is Jewish himself.
This should go a little way to help prove my point that he's probably not inherently racist, but rather incabaple of handling his agression tactfully.
here's the link
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-24 09:04 [#02007217]
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apparently he regrets it now
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staz
on 2006-11-24 09:06 [#02007219]
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"nigger" lost its weight a long time ago, but people refuse to admit it.
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b6662966
from ? on 2006-11-24 13:41 [#02007324]
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Michael Richards is NOT jewish, hes catholic. People assume he is jewish because of the Kramer character (who ironically had no religious association in the seinfeld show).
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-24 13:44 [#02007327]
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now, that's irony!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-24 14:07 [#02007353]
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from wikipedia's article on Michael richards:
According to the two men who were targeted by the outburst, Frank McBride and Kyle Doss, they were merely ordering drinks after arriving late to the comedy club, and not heckling. The two men, represented by Gloria Allred, are planning on suing Richards in the near future.
For god's sake..
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-11-24 14:12 [#02007360]
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People assume Kramer or Richards (who has a big nose) is Jewish because Sienfeld and Larry David are Jews and you know how those fucking kykes stick together.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-11-24 16:24 [#02007488]
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Eventually there will be no money in the US because it will all be tied up in lawsuits, and no other country will have anything to do with them.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-24 17:22 [#02007520]
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Well his PR guy is saying he's Jewish.
"The New York Post said Thursday that two customers at The Improv in Los Angeles said Richards used foul language in referring to Jewish people after he was heckled on stage last spring.
Rubenstein confirmed the incident, but said Richards was no anti-Semite, and in fact was Jewish himself."
The link is in my previous post
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oyvinto
on 2006-11-24 17:25 [#02007522]
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IT WAS FUNNY!
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big
from lsg on 2006-11-24 18:16 [#02007552]
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i just wanna know what happened to his hair :(
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