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offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-17 07:00 [#02003729]
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/idcards/story/0,,1950226,00.htm...


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-11-17 07:04 [#02003740]
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i need a new passport


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2006-11-17 07:16 [#02003745]
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Cheers Chris, that was an interesting read.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2006-11-17 07:20 [#02003747]
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passports should be banned altogether.


 

offline mimi on 2006-11-17 22:37 [#02004195]
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i know, we should be able to go wherever we want!!!


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-17 23:00 [#02004201]
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this is far too complicated for 6 in the morning.

*bookmarks*

cheers.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-17 23:03 [#02004202]
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ditto


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-18 02:57 [#02004234]
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It's quite worrying really as I'm a careless sod. I nearly
lost all my plane tickets and passport in Australia.


 

offline chambre noire from Iceland on 2006-11-18 04:00 [#02004240]
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thanks for the interesting link. the big brother total
surveillance society is here


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2006-11-18 09:43 [#02004340]
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double account = b7


 

offline LuminousAphid from home (United States) on 2006-11-18 12:20 [#02004404]
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"Consider this scenario: A postman involved with organised
crime knows he has a passport to deliver to your home... If
the rogue postman were to take your passport home, without
opening the envelope he could put it against a reader and
begin a 'brute force' attack in which your computer tries 12
different permutations every second until it has the right
access codes"

I find this situation sort of comical.

I didn't get how the key works though... It consists of
these three pieces of info which are inside the passport,
which is in a "machine readable zone?" So you can read it
visually and by machine with a special scanner? I've never
had to use a passport at a hotel, but do they usually take
enough time with it to get this information and scan this
chip, or would it seem suspicious? Though that raises the
issue that they're new, so people might not know what to
expect and wouldn't neccesarily be suspicious because of
this.

Also, the "10 years from yesterday, give or take a day" for
the expiration date makes me think. If this was the case and
they didn't know the exact date, wouldn't that potentially
multiply the time it would take to use a 'brute force'
attack to crack into the chip? This would have to be a
fairly well-organized postman to already have your birthdate
as well. I don't really think it would be as easy as they
claim to use a 'brute force' attack, though it is certainly
possible. I'd say it is more likely that the scenario with
the hotel stealing and cloning he info is much more likely
and scary, since they can see your info when you give them
the passport.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-19 17:22 [#02004902]
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On the plus side, at least our lot are grateful that the
flaw has been exposed and are seeking to correct. Recently,
across the pond, a not too disimilar scam also involving
identity manipularion to board planes was discovered (by a
US citizen who was a computer security professional and
doctoral student at MIT). Their response? Raid his house,
arrest him, take his website down and try to charge him
under anti-terror laws. Spackers.


 


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