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offline Riccardo from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2006-11-14 02:54 [#02001776]
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I've noticed that recently dubstep has become the new sound
with artists like kode9, burial and skream. Also rephlex and
planet mu are interested on that. I wonder if it is the new
drum'n'bass. For now I like it very much and I recoomend to
everyone the series of dubstep mixes 1,2,3,4.
Opinions?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 03:09 [#02001780]
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Do you mean the Dubstep Allstars mixes, 1-4? I like them.

Mu seems to of embraced dubstep to the point of the
exclusion of almost everything else (which to my mind is a
good thing).

I think Dubstep is absolutely superb (much better than
Grime) and it's amazing that it's not more popular here.
Better than DnB imo, although I like that too.


 

offline delodepote from Prague (Czech Republic) on 2006-11-14 03:16 [#02001782]
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Mary Ann Hobbes has released Dubstep Warriorz. Accordingly
to playlist it looks like new d&b generation ;)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 04:04 [#02001790]
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On the subject of Dubstep Warriorz and Various Productions'
"The World is Gone" and to a lesser degree, Burial's album,
I'm suprised they've not enjoyed more widespread success. I
don't mean being on MTV or charting, I just mean that people
who are 'into music' and reasonably well versed in
non-popular music haven't heard of them. I'm consistantly
amazed by how many friends who DJ/are musicians
themselves/have quite eclectic music tastes still haven't
heard of these releases, or even about dubstep at all.

I reckon various productions (especially now they've been
signed by xl) will enter the more mainstream areas of music
in the not too distant future though.

Best thing to happen to British music in years and it seems
most people aren't noticing. :(


 

offline delodepote from Prague (Czech Republic) on 2006-11-14 04:30 [#02001803]
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i agree


 

offline Jaser from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-14 04:52 [#02001808]
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Bristol is dubloaded. If you are old enough to remember
jungle before it was drum and bass was a hideous dirty
filthy ethic urban noise. Nobody wanted too touch, then it
was the next new thing according to the media that had just
appeared. Twenty years on it has been watered down so much
that you don't even clock a DnB pattern in the latest
shampoo TV advert.

I like the sub bass and the tunes in dubstep/grime.
Personally I just don't like it when it is too overtly
urban/street. Especially MCing. Jungle was always better
without MCing.

I hate the way DJ like Mary Anne Hobbs think everything is
great.
They are just trying to extend their carrear by hedging
their bets.

Scenes always start out marginal/niche until the men in
charge looking at spreadsheets can see the dollar signs
racking up.

In my opinion it has the potential to be really big. Sort
tap into the RNB/Rap urban market.

I can imagine it is going to be all over when Maddona's next
record has a dubstep beat in about 2 years time.

Rant Over


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 05:27 [#02001819]
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I agree with most of your post, but disagree about Ms.
Hobbs. She's the new John Peel in my eyes.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-11-14 05:34 [#02001825]
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I dont think much of various production... its okay but
thats about it. A lot of dubstep is quite dull, this just
seems like dull with a twist.

I agree with jaser about Hobbs, she irritates me.


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2006-11-14 05:35 [#02001826]
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Intelligent Reggaeton Music


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 05:39 [#02001827]
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I don't think VP are the best the scene has to offer, I just
think they're amongst the most likely to have a wider
success.


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2006-11-14 05:53 [#02001832]
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most dubstep is utter wank. but there are some really good
tunes out there. skreams wibbly wobbliness is great


 

offline Riccardo from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2006-11-14 06:02 [#02001834]
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I'm listening to burial album and it's very good, there's
laso another compilation called the roots of dubstep, I
found it on the shops.I've seen it's not difficult to find
releases on that kind on shops so I hope it won't become a
commercial affaire as happened to DnB


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2006-11-14 06:04 [#02001835]
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ho ho ho!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 06:07 [#02001836]
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Yes, most of Loefah and Digital Mystikz output sounds pretty
boring to my ears and I can see how the rather repetative
(ideally hypnotic) nature of some tracks could grate if you
didn't like it.

As you say though, there are a few tracks like midnight
request line that are undeniably funky.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-11-14 06:12 [#02001838]
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did commercialising really ruin drum&bass? didnt it just
keep it going? flogging a dead horse? I just got a bit bored
of it, I dont know if anything bad actually happened to drum
& bass


 

offline Riccardo from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2006-11-14 06:21 [#02001841]
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I think that in the next two year dubtep will die and a new
genre will come like rock'n'bass. for now what I like is
that when DnB happened I was quite young now I can see the
spreading of something new and i'm curious about what will
come next


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 06:42 [#02001845]
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rock 'n bass?

It already exists. It's sometimes jokingly refered to as
"Kornstep". It's like a cross between Korn-style guitar
riffs (hence the name) and Dubstep. I don't like it, it
sounds a bit try-hard and put on (not unlike Korn in that
respect ;-) ) and it's not particularly popular. Only track
I've heard that sound remotely like this that I like is DJ
Distance's "Fallen".


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-14 06:52 [#02001848]
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I always find it terribly exciting when a new genre is
created so lots of people, who otherwise wouldn't really
know what to do, can go and make music similar to each
other.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 07:05 [#02001850]
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My favourite is when you get vanity labels that are set up
solely for one of these new scenes, that release gash
records by the owner and a few mates (and have no interest
in signing amazing, overlooked talent that doesn't know them
personally) and then run up huge debts and go under, their
only legacy being 950+ unsold copies of each of their
tedious releases in the owner's bedroom and a poor credit
rating.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-14 07:21 [#02001855]
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That's poetry, in a maaaad way.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-14 07:47 [#02001868]
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Unlike most people here i think Grime > Dubstep. And i like
the MC'ing.

I just considered this... dont you think Busta Rhymes:Touch it is a
bit grimy?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-11-14 07:57 [#02001873]
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I love Diplo's remix of Touch it and I like the original
track. I can't really hear much of a Grime influence in it
though. The subtle flam on the clap is more well produced
american hip hop than floops. ;-)


 

offline Babaouo from Dolce (Monaco) on 2006-11-14 07:58 [#02001874]
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yes it is!

Ive given Skream & Burial a few listens and still dont
really get what's so big about them.

Love dubstep to death tho.
Vex\'d (as it appears on Bleep)
Boxcutter
Hawerchuk
Distance

have much potential in my book.

AE should mix with some dubstep artists. would be an
interesting tune.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-14 08:07 [#02001875]
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Yah, it might be a bit far fetched.

Shit, i rember a grime track i listened to some time ago
"top producer" (can't remember who made it)

There was a fucking line "you can't beat me in fruityloops
3"

Hilarious.

I actually love the program myself i must admit....


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-14 08:09 [#02001877]
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One of my all time favourite grime tracks is
Merkle man (jammer):Merkle man

(also, Murkle depending on how you spell it

LAZY_TITLE

It's perfect, because it has a catchy, rough riff, and
something all grime lacks: HUMOUR!!!!



 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-14 08:10 [#02001879]
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One of my all time favourite grime tracks is
Merkle man (jammer):Merkle man

(also, Murkle depending on how you spell it

LAZY_TITLE

It's perfect, because it has a catchy, rough riff, and
something all grime lacks: HUMOUR!!!!



 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-11-14 08:10 [#02001881]
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Damn....


 

offline Riccardo from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2006-11-14 08:39 [#02001906]
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anyway I don't see a competition between grime and dupstep
they share the same roots and some compilation feature
artists of both sides


 


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