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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:10 [#01999712]
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I'm enjoying ravel's la valse right now. assholes. I've made this topic before.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:10 [#01999713]
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solo piano version, that is. assholes.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-09 17:10 [#01999714]
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the very same ravels bolero, actually
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:12 [#01999716]
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fuck, you've got to be kidding me. that's the worst tripe ever created. useless and repetitive. I guess it's interesting if one has no familiarity with symphonic sounds, otherwise it's just a paperweight.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-09 17:13 [#01999717]
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allegro non tropo has excellent animation to bolero, have to fastforward to it since the rest of that is terrible.
me = chopin
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-11-09 17:16 [#01999718]
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It's hardly useless, his most popular piece. He made it for his mum as she loved all things Spanish.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:16 [#01999719]
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WHICH CHOPIN BE MORE SPECIFIC
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:18 [#01999720]
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he fucking hated it too. not to say his tastes were the best.
The best ravel is Le Tombeau de Couperin, though it's hard to get a good recording, since it's hard and pianists like to show off, to the great detriment of the music.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-11-09 17:18 [#01999721]
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My favourite Ravel is Pavane pour une infante defunte. AMAZING.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2006-11-09 17:19 [#01999722]
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I'm very fond of the Allegro movement of Beethoven's 7th symphony.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:19 [#01999723]
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That is very nice too. do you know Le Tombeau de Couperin?
in general I favor debussy, though I am not as familiar with his music..
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:20 [#01999724]
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that's a nice one. do you like the sixth?
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-11-09 17:22 [#01999725]
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Isn't classical music only music made in a particular era? Otherwise it's romantic, or comtempory orchestral or whatever.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-11-09 17:24 [#01999726]
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haha, I think the repetition is part of the point with that one
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:24 [#01999727]
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note the quotes.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:24 [#01999728]
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it definitely is, and I fucking hate it.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-09 17:25 [#01999729]
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i have this won chopin cd... must bee limited edition two won copy cuz i cannot gbackspacefind it ne warez on INTERNET net NET. I DONT FEEL LIKE FINDING THE capslock track titles wright now. i just did hello world in 523 lines of code.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:25 [#01999731]
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in what language? BRAINFUCK?!
check out HASKELL. it is the BEST LANGUAGE.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-11-09 17:28 [#01999732]
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Yeah, that's great! Debussy is amazing too, they both have the same romantic push without being twee crap.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:29 [#01999733]
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what about scriabin? sometimes he's somewhat impressionistic, sometimes wannabe-chopin, frequently too bombastic. I like the 3rd sonata.
prokofiev is very brilliant.
ravel's pavane is too sad for me btw.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-11-09 17:32 [#01999735]
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I don't really know scriabin? I'll have a look tomorrow. Prokoviev is majestic! Pavane is earnest sorrow, I didn't like it the first time I heard it for the same sad reason but it really is beautiful.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-11-09 17:37 [#01999737]
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I really love latter day former Soviets. Valentin Silvestrov, Alfred Schnittke, Peteris Vasks and Arvo Part. Silvestrov is my favorite composer ever, I love the really dark shit.
Old school, Bartok and even really old school, Bach... hit and miss but some of his organ works are among the best music I've ever heard. But when I worked for HP tech support they played a lot of popular Bach stuff when I put people on hold, like the Brandenburg orchestral stuff and it drove me nuts after a period and made me hate it against my will.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:42 [#01999741]
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His etudes and sonatas are famous, but as I said earlier, since they are difficult, pianists generally try to show off in them too much.
a particularly good recording of the 3rd sonata is emil gilels, live, maybe from the 70s or 80s.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:43 [#01999743]
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Never heard of silvestrov! I'll take a look. you make me think of super metroid, which is nice.
bartok is nice, though I don't listen to it often. his "out of doors" set of piano pieces is my favorite.
bach's "art of fugue" is excellent when played on organ.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-11-09 17:49 [#01999746]
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Emil Gilels is one of my favourite pianists, he used to never check the Piano before a performance and 'battle' it when he played. Most Pianists are so Egoistic and spoilt they have the piano tuned by 3 different tuners and allsorts of daft demands millimeter precision of bench width/placement.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:51 [#01999748]
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ha ha that's pretty sweet. Richter complained about the times when he had many pianos to choose from, and that it made him play shittily, since he kept blaming things on the choice..
I didn't listen to him for years but a friend came back from china with lots of DVDs of random soviet performances. really excellent.
his chopin 3rd sonata recording is really excellent.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:53 [#01999752]
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there are some excellent videos of the old great pianists on youtube, by the way (maybe you've checked). their search capability is terrible though, I've put in a pianist's name and not gotten matches I know are in the database, which have the correctly spelled name..
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-11-09 17:53 [#01999753]
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I'll have a look for that. Cheers.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-11-09 17:54 [#01999754]
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Please do. Requiem for Larissa is my favorite piece ever, but then, I like it super dark. I think Arvo Part said Silvestrov is his favorite composer. So if you're one of the people that appreciate Part's schtick, you might like him.
Bach + organ is just sex. I think Ich Ruf Zu Dir Herr Jesu Christ is my favorite piece of music EVER, slightly ahead of Martha My Dear by The Beatles. It's just incredible.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-11-09 17:56 [#01999755]
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I loaded up the Helmut Walcha complete Bach organ works on my Xbox 360 to listen to when I play Oblivion. Made the game seem a lot better than it really is.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 17:59 [#01999757]
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I'm not crazy about paert, but I like some of it. for instance "spiegel im spiegel" is way too deep into that sort of aesthetic for me to "get it".
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 18:00 [#01999759]
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here is a rather intimidating snapshot of gilels playing some prokofiev.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-11-09 18:03 [#01999760]
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I thought everybody loved Spiegel im Spiegel! Evne non-Part fans. That thing is too pretty. It's stuff like Silouans Song or Tabula Rasa that usually turn people off Part when I recommend him to them...
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-09 18:11 [#01999768]
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it's too expansive and melancholy for me.. I need tight coiled angst!!
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-09 18:50 [#01999780]
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i'm currently working my way though benjamin britten's opera of the shakespeare play 'a midsummer night's dream'. quite hard listening at points, but features some amazing orchestration - particularly 'the wood' sections.
ravel's bolero is amazing, with it's approach to changing and blending (or fusion) of timbres.
i've just got my hands on stravinsky's 'Orpheus' as well, to which i've been recommended.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-11-09 22:27 [#01999891]
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The Goldbergs are always on my ipod. Glenn's 1955 interpetation and Angela Hewitt's version are outstanding. The English Suites are superb and always a constant in my listening repertoire.
As far as Bach is concerned: He is, in my opinion, the best composer that ever was, not just in the Baroque period and genre, but in all of music. His competence in the discipline of music is masterful and if he lived in the present, I think he could "dumb down" his abilities to produce popular tunes today(although, creating material of mass appeal does take talent).
A good musician from just about any time period will probably be a good one today, and this applies readily to Bach. The thing about muscianship is that it hardly exists anymore, at least in the popular music arena.
Now, someone's appeal I don't understand is Satie. About all his music is just horrible. It's almost unlistenable. He gets by on one corny tune!
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sheffieldbleep
from Sheffield (United Kingdom) on 2006-11-10 00:52 [#01999912]
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Johann Strauss - Die Fledermaus Chopin - Minute Waltz Beethoven - Piano Sonata No. 14
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unabomber
from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-11-10 01:04 [#01999913]
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Tchaikovsky - Concert for Piano and Orchestra number 1 (first movement)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2006-11-10 01:50 [#01999918]
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Beethoven's SEVENTH & SECOND
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-11-10 10:50 [#02000155]
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I feel like your collective upper middle class fathers just farted in unison packed in a closed drawing room.
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sneakattack
on 2006-11-22 23:18 [#02006474]
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more russian shit--nikolai medtner sonata in g minor, op22
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2006-11-23 00:48 [#02006495]
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I like a lot of Beethoven (though it's not technically classical... Romantic peroid? or something),
and I really like Johann Pachelbel's Canon (probably not official classical either-I dont even know if thats the real title, thats just the mp3 I have)
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-11-23 00:57 [#02006496]
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indeed bachs fugues are incredible, I know its over played and cliche but tocata and fugue in D minor are awesome. I really like bachs Air as well.
I believe its lizst Hungarian rhapsody which is also a favorite.
the winter pieces by vivaldi are nice too.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-11-23 01:00 [#02006497]
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yeah even if its becoming an overused wedding song it is quite a beautiful piece Pachelbels canon in d minor.
Canon- A musical form where the melody or tune is imitated by individual parts at regular intervals. The individual parts may enter at different measures and pitches. The tune may also be played at different speeds, backwards, or inverted.
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2006-11-23 03:31 [#02006531]
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japanese contemporary classical such as sakamoto and hisaishi
and lot of minimal such as Steve Reich, Lygeti etc etc
and also some of the famous pieces from the past centuries
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-23 03:56 [#02006548]
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rachmaninov piano concerti some mozart piano concerti peter warlock's capriol suite (amazing) haydn string quartets bach goldberg variations (on piano, can't suffer the harpsichord for that length of time i'm afraid)
satie is nice once in a while rodrigo's guitar concerto granados, albeniz works (especially enjoyable on guitar)
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2006-11-23 05:20 [#02006608]
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rodrigo's guitar concerto granados, albeniz works (especially enjoyable on guitar)
agreed incredible guitar songs. Julian Bream plays them well!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-11-23 05:55 [#02006633]
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my thoughts exactly :)
dedacatoria and la maja de goya are just fucking sublime.. they loose so much of their power when played on piano, i couldn't believe it.
he's a very expressive guitarist, a fucking treasure.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-11-23 21:36 [#02006963]
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debussy
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-11-23 22:25 [#02006972]
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Your dislike of the harpsichord is the same sentiment I have toward the guitar. It's horrid to have to sit through a listen of all that fret noise. And it always seems so labored to play a guitar piece for a muscian, especially transcriptions of genuine art music.
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