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i know all of you saw Ministry last summer on the SphincTOUR...hahaha..funny tour name eh? in alternative press magazing.. live cd out march 19! dvd/vhs out april 9! kick assssssssss........i saw them in minneapolis,mn......the show was so fucting powerful......... |
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but would it be as good as "In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing UP"..which is best live album I have heard..EVER! |
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icydflsu was a great one..........old school ministy...........the new nin live is good.......but i have many live nin that are better........... |
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ALSO NEW STUDIO ALBUM FALL 2002 !! |
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new Ministry studio album?..WOW! though everyone hated DSOTS..I thought it was incredible album..a huge step forward..all the jazzy horn driven numbers were fantastic..reminded me of GOD..I hope they venture further in that direction. |
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I tuned out after Filth Pig, that was a bit shit |
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you hated dark side of the spoon? listen to it again........and love it........... |
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you hated filth pig? listen to it again........and love it........... |
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Filth Pig's got some great songs as well,,there's like a whole opus in the middle..with Ministry it's best to skip the singles and focus on the meat of the album |
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I didn't say I hated it :o) I dunno, the fast ones for me were just rehased NWO IMO |
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LISTEN TO MINISTRY MY FRIENDS......... |
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COME ON YOU CUNTS, LETS HAVE SOME MINISTRY ACID........ACTAULLY IN AL'S CASE IT WOULD BE HERION...... |
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yeah the faster songs of filth pigs are pretty weak..but it's things like Lava, Crumbs, Useless, Dead Guy, Gameshow and the Fall..the whole middle of the album..listen to it in sequence...there's a progression...amazing stuff |
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they are not weak....... |
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Al and RDJ together would be a trip... Come to Daddy kinda sounds like Aphex and Alien together...hehe |
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I mean I like em a lot..but they are not as good as stuff down the path on the album.. |
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its Alian...........but ibe also known for a few typos in my day............ |
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Ministry was on top during '88-92', he seemed to take his own downward spiral into heroin and who knows what else after that... maybe he is revitalized, but the last record was released to mostly apathy. Face it, the reality that every generation of music fans denies, that artists get old and stop recording as good or original stuff. It'll happen to you too.... Land of Rape and Honey is the best. It blew people away in 1989. ...Download "You Know What You Are" and "Flashback" from it, i don't think you can buy them. "So what" from Mind is his greatest Killing Joke ripoff. Al also released under different aliases during his peak(sorta like you know who) such as Revolting Cocks, Pailhead, 1000 Dead Homo Djs, Lead Into Gold, Acid Horse, Lard... |
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nope Alien was intentional..he's called himself that on numerous releases :) also Hypo Luxa |
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I so disagree with peaking thing in case of Ministry..they have been maturing like fine wine..Psalm 69 was a misstep towards the main stream but Filth Pig and Dark Side are just as good as their Jackhammer freakouts, just more mature ..and the Killing Joke ripp off bit doesn't really hold..because they are an acknowledged influence..he (Al)even did a lot of production on the KJ's extremities album..that would really be like calling Squarepusher an Aphex Twin ripp off..bollix in'it? |
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The look in your eyes, da da da dada da da da dada |
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I don't know if Psalm 69 can be called a misstep towards the mainstream. A mind is a... was much more mainstream than paslm 69. Either way I like all ministry albums except 'with sympathy' or whatever it was called. That one was not a groin grabbingly good time. |
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Psalm 69 was a misstep towards Mainstream..I was following the thing quite closely at the time..Al fired the whole band..hired a god aweful Trash/Death Metal band Rigor Mortis..as a backing band..so it went from the very Tribal and unconventional Two Drummers Two Bassists 3 synth sampler players..etc lineup to a Metal Band format Drummer Bassist Two guitarists etc..he became a bit of a cock on that tour as well and refused to play stuff off Twitch or the synth heavy stuff off LORAH..It was a phase he got over it..gladly:) |
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I'm also glad he got over the death metal industrial of psalm but I still don't think it's even remotely mainstream. Most of the songs don't even have much in the way of structure. |
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i don't mean ripoff of Killing Joke as an insult, more of homage, influence type thing, even Alian/Alien said how much he loved and took from early Killing joke (its very obvious on some songs)... yeah, i remember that, it went full circle, after Killing Joke made a couple of attempts at more mainstream stuff, Al was happy to help them do a harder Waxtrax style record in the early 90s. |
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yeah okay I relent..thee's some good songs on there but things like Just one Fix..Hero..Scarecrow..etc could have been easily done by Metallica or megadeath who were both selling albums in their millions at the time..that's mainstream compared to Ministry's usual |
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ok...I agree. But then again what is ministry's usual. With Sympaty - cheesy electro shite Twitch - electro industrial LORAH - getting heavier and starts using guitars TMIATTTT - heavy and dark with more bass guitars psalm 69 - full on heavy metal guitar industrial filth pig - even more guitar and less synth TDSOTS - EVEN MORE guitar and less synth Ministry has been consistantly evolving over every release. They have no usual sound; that's why I love 'em :-) |
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IF MINISRTY EVER WENT MAINSTREAM AS METALLICA AND MEGADETH ID ..................FUCK WHO KNOWS WHAT ID DO........THE CLOSEST THING THEY WILL EVER COME OT MAINSTREAM IS PSALM 69...WITH ALL THE MTV VIDEOS FOR THAT ALBUM............ LISTEN TO MINISTRY |
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hmm..interesting points..but even though there's no audible synths on Filth Pig or DarkSide..there's some massive sampler action going on... By Ministry's usual I meant the Political..subversiveness...was supplanted by the cheesy pseudo Satanic posturing which is better left for Ozzy and Dime a Dozen rockers of the time |
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