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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 18:33 [#01992628]
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Now that I'm at university, I feel old.
All the kids (which is what they are) listen to bands like The Klaxons and My Chemical Romance.
What the fuck is "New Rave?"
I have no idea, but these kids love all this shit. I played one of my housemates some Aphex Twin, he was all:
"Yeah, yeah. Not very interesting."
Does nobody under 25 listen to electronic music or dance music in the UK anymore? Is it dead???
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-10-25 18:39 [#01992631]
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Fuck alone knows what the freshers at Spunkbridge Poly are rattling the Halls of Residence with.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 18:42 [#01992632]
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i do and im a sprightly 23. its not dead its just not hitting the right notes with people any more. seems to me that a lot of people want music that is upfront with its message and musicianship, hence the popularity of bands like my chemical romance. groups like the klaxons, CSS, hot chip etc are still electronic in nature but still have clear messages and a 'band sensibility'. i get the impression im talking out of my arse sorry.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 18:44 [#01992633]
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although ive never been a uni student so i cant comment on them. the majority seem severely socially underdeveloped from what ive seen of my girlfriends mates.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-10-25 18:49 [#01992634]
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shockin', just shockin'.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-10-25 19:02 [#01992640]
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I had a good laugh recently when I saw KT Tunstall labeled as "alternative".
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-25 19:19 [#01992643]
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i am a young 19 year old child-boy and i like electronic music. however, i honestly cannot find anybody else at university who does. there are a few drum 'n' bass heads, I suppose, but they ONLY seem to like drum and bass, or a bit of trance here and there. young child-boys do seem to prefer rockish music.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-10-25 19:36 [#01992651]
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i had venetian snares on the other day and this kid said dont you have any good drum and bass and i bit my lip because i knew he meant something like pedulum and i thought you stupid cunt go back to your skateboard
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-10-25 19:42 [#01992654]
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its this new wave of 'band' music that seems to like somewhere between indie-rock and emo whatever things.. it annoys me as people are like this is cool this is hip, but its not. its just disposable for the moment music, that ultimately will not stand the test of time..,.. uh, its not comparable to groundbreaking eras of past. its nothing special. i was digging through some old vinyl the other day and found a track by XTC, and i thought hey, this sounds like all that shit today, except i have more respect for a band doing something 20 years ago what is 'hip' now. thats clever i thought. it annoys me. and people go to 'indie' clubs. mention warp and people will say maximo park.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-10-25 19:44 [#01992655]
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I'm at school right now and I've just scratched the aphex symbol into the desk. It will forever remain a nonsensical mystery.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-10-25 19:47 [#01992656]
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With todays technology, can we develop a hand big enough to slap every face that gives a 'i know all about music because i liked arctic monkeys before they got famous' smirk?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-10-25 19:50 [#01992657]
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im still living in the 80s. been playing the style council of all things
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-10-25 19:51 [#01992658]
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dont you think the 80s is quickly becoming the new 70s or 60s?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-10-25 19:55 [#01992659]
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the 80's officially stopped being uncool on 1/1/2000
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-10-25 19:56 [#01992660]
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I still don't know what EBM is.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-10-25 20:03 [#01992661]
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'round here everyone likes everything. though.. they don't, but they do.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-26 08:23 [#01992826]
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Indie is the new soft rock. The kids listening to NME bands like The Klaxons aren't the ones that would've been listening to The Smiths 20 years ago, they're the ones that would've been listening to Marillion or T'Pau or something.
It's totally mainstream and boring, but the fans still seem to think it has some sort of rebellious edge.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-10-26 08:29 [#01992831]
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Kind of like Tool
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-26 08:37 [#01992842]
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You think the new Tool is "mainstream and boring, and that fans just think they have some sort of rebellious edge".....pfft. I can see you being an electronic guy, but Tool have always challanged themselves and thier fans, and not since teh song "sober" could they be any less mainstream.
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Frag
from New Jersey (United States) on 2006-10-26 08:59 [#01992864]
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Yeah, see, when people try to talk to me about indie bands, I just think of the underground rock scene of the 80's, which they wouldn't touch - which is odd to me, because bands like the smiths, the cure, the jesus and mary chain, etc, did it first (and better, arguably) back in the day...
i'm a university student, and if you ask me, kids have always been 'stupid'. people want pop music, something with a disposably catchy tune. that's how it's always been. the kids that pretend to listen to 'smarter' music aren't really a notch above everybody else - i mean, in 9th grade, i thought i knew music better than everybody else because I listened to nine inch nails, then it was aphex twin, and etc.
if someone tells you they 'knew about' x 'before they were famous' just give them a big "WOW!". let them know how much of a difference they've made. i listen to music i enjoy, yeah, which does include a lot of top 40 bullshit, but i only share tunes, not half-baked opinions and self-evaluations.
for the record, i listened to my chemical romance before anybody heard of them, but i don't tell people that - i tell them, their first album is good. the other two are not.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-10-26 09:11 [#01992870]
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the other day i had a chemical brothers t shirt on in the pub. this kid, only a year younger than me:
him "what does it say on your shirt?"
me "the chemical brothers"
him "my chemical romance?"
me "the chemical brothers"
him "who?"
true story.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-26 09:14 [#01992871]
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lol @ chimical romance, they suck chem brothers are not suck
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-26 09:21 [#01992877]
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You are so hardcore and underground.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-26 09:24 [#01992881]
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Why are you like that?
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Frag
from New Jersey (United States) on 2006-10-26 09:26 [#01992886]
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chevy chase is a mean man. watch 'nothing but trouble.'
i think the chemical brothers are all right. not 'album artists,' i suspect.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-26 09:28 [#01992891]
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I'm just a prick.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-26 09:30 [#01992898]
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yes you are sometimes, i dont like it
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-26 09:33 [#01992901]
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I don't like......YOUR FACE.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-26 09:42 [#01992909]
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you seem to hve good musical knowledge, but with the "I don't like......YOUR FACE." comment, makes your age of 23 look like a 5 year old :(
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-26 09:47 [#01992915]
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WHAT?
FUCKING EMOS FUCKING EMOS FUCKING EMOS FUCKING EMOS FUCKING EMOS FUCKING EMOS FUCKING EMOS FUCKING EMOS AAAAAAAAAAARRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-26 09:51 [#01992917]
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theres no proper IDM-nuts up here, but i have had a few people come up to me when i have been wearing my aphex shirt. at least they know some IDM. theres loads of DnB freaks here. thankfully there arent many fucking emos.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-10-26 09:59 [#01992920]
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why did you play aphex twin first of all ? and which track/album did you play ?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-10-26 10:04 [#01992926]
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he wasnt emo, that was the thing.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-26 10:12 [#01992929]
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MCR? Well I like I'm Not Ok and Helena, but the rest is just "HAHAHAHAHA!"
Mind, I like quite a lot of the new alternative/indie stuff, Bloc Party are great.
but still, no-one will ever beat Talking Heads.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-26 10:15 [#01992932]
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Everyone thinks that dance = crappy chart-hitting trance and shite. All that danish "looo leee I love you and I need you in my heart/You're my ecstacy/Want you 24/7" shite.
They would have never hav guessed that brain blowing IDMv2 existed.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-26 10:17 [#01992934]
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-26 11:15 [#01992962]
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My mate had SAW 85-92. He played me it years ago, I think in 1994.
Why do you ask, sonny-jim?
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-10-26 12:28 [#01992990]
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i listen a years ago Lionel Belasco he made tracks on 1920s ... today meanwhile i drive to Granada i listen the song "This is Harddcore" of Pulp band...a track of 1998.
time and music are like coca cola and water.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2006-10-26 12:30 [#01992992]
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i <3 the coca cola and the water, yep i do
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-10-26 12:49 [#01993003]
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why not something other than aphex ?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-10-26 12:50 [#01993004]
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today i was listening to trs-80, they're great, are you into them ?
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-10-26 12:58 [#01993007]
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im into you...heheeo...no,i dunno trs'80... also listen ganstas paradise of Coolio*
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-26 13:01 [#01993009]
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I was listening to a fruityloops loop of one bar of music which contains one note every four steps at 10bpm. The note is on a Wasp synth with the pitch oscillator set at maximum level and minimum speed. So every note is different in a "random" kinda way. So every few seconds the synth goes "bleep" at a different pitch. Then I added a delay a 80bpm and two reverbs turned up full on all settings. The reverb and delay built a nice big sissonant cloud of musi-fog I could feel wash over as I played Manic Miner for the millionth time.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2006-10-26 13:02 [#01993010]
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I don't quite understand what you are getting at.
Explain, please?
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-26 13:02 [#01993011]
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*dissonant
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SPD
from United States on 2006-10-26 13:05 [#01993014]
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Gwely: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_body_music
bout the only thing i like out of these indie band bands is Phantom Planet. the s/t record (after Jason Schwartzman left) was damn good.
My Chemical Romance - no comment (and what i mean by that is, they can go fistfuck their mothers). terrible band. terrible fans.
maybe electronic was just too obviously the next step, so of course no one took it.
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uzim
on 2006-10-26 13:08 [#01993015]
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lol
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uzim
on 2006-10-26 13:09 [#01993016]
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well if you played venetian snares to me, i would orobably also ask you to play some good electro, drum'n'bass or whatever instead.
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uzim
on 2006-10-26 13:25 [#01993040]
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i don't think i have a better musical knowledge/taste (if there is anything as "better taste") than other people. or at least i refrain that thought now; i had it for some time but i realized that i was often wrong and that knowing a few relatively "obscure" bands/artists didn't make me a music expert in any way.
for my birthday, friends offered me a Chet Baker cd and an Aphex Twin one. the latest person i talked about music to at university listened to The Roots, Eels, Radiohead... another person i know at university seems to know a lot more bands than i do (he's also in a doom metal band). etc.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-10-26 13:27 [#01993042]
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I have excellent musical taste and vision of perfect, clean, electro beauty.
Everybody else just falls into sheep-like stereotypes like "Indie Kid", "Metalhead" or "IDM Nerd"
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