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Old news? There doesn't seem to be a thread about it yet. |
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Oo! Thanks for the heads up. I hadn't heard. So, new news. |
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Great title. |
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it's super awesome music too. jelinek goes fennesz.. can't wait to see him live next month..what a guy. |
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btw, it's definitely one of my favourite album this year. |
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great news! compulsive producing by jelinek, isnt it? the kosmiker pitcher (or whatever was it called) wasnt released that far away... |
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<3!!!!! :D Nice bit o info! Thanks |
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sounds good. |
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Better DL this. Hope it's better than Kosmischer Shit |
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kosmicher pitch was nice but this is something else really..it's an album that says something..clark should learn from this :-) |
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An album that says something? What does it say? |
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it says "hello and goodbye", but you have to listen to it closely. |
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You didn't have a serious answer to that. Should have guessed. It's all pretentious bullcrap or "wikey-face" comments |
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i don't think you'd take it any different if i explained it so why bother right |
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Always interested in discussing music, dude |
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and to be sure, you're going into this discussion with the best attitude you could possibly have |
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i can't exaplin well in english, but the difference with jelinek is that he obviously reinterprets lots of ideas from various music grounds from the past and he turns it into something of his own and this one sounds like the most personal album he made so far and that's very special..you can almost feel what he feels or something. what more could you ask from music..at least that's ot for me. |
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I think he's a genius. Anyone can throw together some bits and pieces of old samples but not many can make it carry emotional weight, and make it flow. He makes the samples talk the way a really good jazz drummer can make the drums talk. |
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some of the samples (of his other albums) reminds me of this concert I was at this saturday.. Sort Mel. Two guys who were just basically using old christmas and hawaii records to create loops and improvise on top.. I've done the same a few times just for fun, but I can't say it always ends up good. Anyway, the other samples indicate different styles. how is the availability of his stuff on vinyl, you think? |
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Cool shit. |
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I'm a bit disappointed that there aren't any beats on this album. I always liked his static rythms, and soft kickdrums; the same goes for solid basselines. But apparently he's trying to develop his style and ideas, this time by trying something more ambient with bits and pieces of soft noise. But as far as noisy ambience goes, Tim Hecker seems to be unbeatable this year. |
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I knew I had to push the old man a bit. I did, and he gave me what I wanted. |
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To be honest, I wanted to challenge Tolstoyed a bit. He has strong and kinda "teaching" opinions about what artists make good and bad music, but I think that his arguments are mostly hollow. To say that one artist wants to "say" something with his music, is b.s, since I guess that's what every artist wants to do. I was interested in what the album "said" to the T-man, and "reinterprets lots of ideas from various music grounds from the past and he turns it into something of his own" is the same thing the new Chris Clark-album says to a Chris Clark-fan. I suspected a hollow argument, and was right. |
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You can do that stuff in a straightforward way and end up doing something like Fantastic Plastic Machine or Pizzicato 5 - both of which I quite like, by the way - or you can do something more conceptual with it. do you know by Jeck and Schaefer? It's quite lovely and eerie. |
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I'll check those links after Iron Monkey finishes.. I don't know what my dabblings sound like, but until I figure out how to properly make a tape-loop for my reel-to-reel thingie, I'm confined to using a reverse delay pedal with repeat set to max for the looping, meaning everything comes out backwards.. not that there's anything bad with that, but it gets boring after a while when it's all I can do... |
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haha, yeah, it is kind of thin.. also, I'd like to point out that I rarely want to say anything with my music, and I don't know many people who do; we prefer playing and doing what we feel like, and if someone else feels it, that's good. If not, they don't feel it. I also have a track you might like, but I can't spam it for a while.. it's "reserved" for something else. don't understand the music, enjoy it. |
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"say" wasn't meant in a way he'll state his opinion on current policy or war in iraq. the thing is you would surely say the same thing no matter what my comment was. it all comes down to personal preference and that is alright. we can't all like same things. i happen to like music in which you can hear where it's coming from. music can only really go somewhere if the one who makes it knows about it's past. and im not talking about those silly revivals here. |
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doesn't that include all music, then, with each person knowing his or her own past, when the person is the origin of the music? |
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that sounds positively wonderful from those three small samples! the second one reminds me of something I did once with that pedal (particularly the drums)! this has inspired me to go back in, and maybe also to get some glue for creating a tape loop for the reel-to-reel thingie! playing with sound is always fun! |
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you have common music ground that was set in the past century and then you have personal style/history. artists can ofcourse use something different or don't look back at all but usually that just turns out dull for me. i prefer to hear some influences in music..or developing ideas people worked on 20,30,40, years ago. this is also the reason why im very excited whenever i hear an album you can't connect to past and it still sounds very interesting..doesn't happen a lot though..can't remember even one album like that atm. |
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what about the music influenced by music you haven't heard? like if someone made something based on traditional south-phoenician childrens songs and you hadn't heard traditional south-phoenician childrens songs.. would it really make a difference in what you thought about the music if you, after initially having said "ah, fuck it, it has no roots!" heard the south-phoenician childrens songs and realised where the music had its roots? |
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i can almost guarantee you won't hear pop electronic producers use traditional south-phoenician childrens songs as inspiration. |
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i read it again and i see what you mean. well, if im not familiar with certain genre and don't know anything about it the history obviously isn't important on how i percept it. but with electronic music, since it's a young genre that's a different thing, so i guess i have different preferences. |
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Jan gets nerds thinking with an album title |
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i'll neverr know./ |
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I agree. Fennesz does this better. Jelinek is to Fennesz what Clark is to AFX? Decent album though. Decent |
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can you elaborate on that? |
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