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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-10 23:26 [#01968787]
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8 hours from now at least.
mpg1 mpg2
the above videos are probably the most accurate and realistic viewpoint the american public had of the attacks AS they were happening
common sense; american news agencies were pre-informed of the attacks. therefore their viewpoint are not really real; they are scripted. acted out.. this shit's real though.
and yeah beware the vids are very chilling, especially the second... its chilling to see a real reaction on the screen versus one that was acted out
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-09-10 23:33 [#01968788]
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-09-10 23:36 [#01968790]
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there's been a lot of talk about it on the BBC world service. I feel it's a load of shite to be getting all excited and wanking over it. By celebrating it you are adding to their impact. Most terrorism is a P.R. exercise. It should be left for the people who died that morning to express what they feel.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2006-09-10 23:51 [#01968791]
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-09-11 00:16 [#01968797]
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Well said.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-11 00:41 [#01968802]
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man i fucking agree with you but i think my point wasn't clearly made. the republican party is continuing to 'celebrate' 9/11 and use it to make money for campaigning and support the slaughter of Shi'ites, Kurds, Sunnis, and Sufis. it's important for americans to know the difference between the right-slanted media's viewpoint of what happened and the peoples viewpoint. and thats as simple as not showing it edited with george bush's voice behind it, with a soundtrack by fucking Kenny G
hacked documentaries will be broadcast for 12 hours straight tomorrow to tilt america into a pit of hatred against muslims and support for a war mongering george bush and a 2008 re-taking of the house by the republican party. what will not be shown is the real perspective (like in those videos) of real people... what will be shown will sort of be like the movie "Terminator" and the Terminator is Islam, John Connor is George Bush. you see what i'm saying.. i mean if i showed any of those videos to any of my red-state-fanatic rednecks friends they'd probably be nauseated. the footage belongs outside of the hands of republican slant where it can be used to support evil
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big
from lsg on 2006-09-11 01:27 [#01968808]
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this dutch public broadcasting documentary yesterday said bush was responsible, because 12 secret services around the world knew yet his government didn't want to know and turned a blind eye. also stockbrokers speculated on it and 100 million dollars was illegaly transferred from the wtc the morning before the attacks. the evidence was on harddisks recovered from the leftovers of the buildings and was supposed to have been gone in the fire the cia or some government organisation now covers up this information.
the documentary let scientists examine a few of the wild accusations in loose change and discarded them as nonsense (for instance the impossibity of the angle the plane that went in the pentagon had to have made and wtc being blown up).
looking at the footage the demolition expert however said building seven must have been taken down with controlled demolition because it came down from the bottom and it looked controlled. it was seven hours after the wtc, they supposedly hadn't done anything against the fire there and it was empty. a whole list of strategic organisations whom would be responsible for letting the attacks happen held office there
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big
from lsg on 2006-09-11 01:28 [#01968809]
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american news agencies were pre-informed
o yeah? and what benifits did they have from that? i thought news-agencies liked to have scoops
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2006-09-11 02:33 [#01968813]
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I hear that!
we have to move on...
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zero-cool
on 2006-09-11 02:52 [#01968816]
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omfg
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-11 03:04 [#01968825]
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i want to watch Fahrenheit 9/11, haven't seen it yet.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-11 03:16 [#01968829]
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OMGXLTCONSPIRACY!
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-09-11 03:20 [#01968832]
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Who gives a fuck, i dont
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2006-09-11 03:20 [#01968833]
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call in Mulder & Scully!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-09-11 03:21 [#01968834]
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oh yeah?!?!
well.. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK THAT YOU DON'T GIVE A FUCK! SO THERE!
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-09-11 03:32 [#01968838]
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We should only commemorate the fallen.
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2006-09-11 03:39 [#01968839]
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check this out! 9/11-press for truth
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-09-11 03:54 [#01968842]
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Is anyone really so stupid and believes that it is possible to manipulate the news? That there is such a thing as unbiased news? Lol
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-11 04:56 [#01968844]
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so why on the news would they show peoples own footage? how many ways are there to see 2 hijacked planes crashing into 2 of the biggest buildings on earth for fucks sake?
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 04:59 [#01968847]
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meh
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2006-09-11 05:01 [#01968849]
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911 is art. But believe me, there is no deeper meaning behind these picture
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Ezkerraldean
from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 05:02 [#01968851]
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"shit happens"
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-11 05:50 [#01968893]
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My POV 100%.
This is the email I got from work on the matter:
Where possible, but remaining operational, individuals are invited to hold a minutes silence in remembrance of the events of 9/11 as follows:
The first is at 1:46 pm to mark the first plane crashing into the first tower.
The next is at 2:03 pm to mark the second plane hitting the second tower,
And a final silence at 2:59 to mark the second tower falling.......
So I'm meant to set reminders for the silence before each of those times and also end any discussion with a client that I may be having not once, but 3 times? Why don't we add in several other events, "time first jumper hit the floor", "time the first fireman died", "time the first survivour was pulled from the wreckage" etc. and have a whole afternoon of STFU.
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-11 08:41 [#01968952]
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Do you hold any kind of respect for human life at all? You think it's fine for police to shoot at unarmed, peaceful protestors because they have an annoying voice, you think it's fine to kill a burgalar merely to protect your own property and you also think it's fine to drive above 100miles per hour, despite the risk to your own and others lives because you think you'd be able to remain in control, no matter the situation. You think it's a terrible put out for yourself, having to pause for 3 minutes in your entire fucking day to remember the thousands of people that were killed and whose lives have been destroyed by the loss of loved ones.
Have some fucking respect.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-11 08:48 [#01968953]
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I know, I'm an inhuman monster who thinks only of himself, who has never commited a selfless act, or shown any empathy to others' suffering.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-11 10:25 [#01968991]
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ashes to ashes funk to funky
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2006-09-11 10:37 [#01968996]
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omg.mpg
jeezous that is some thick smoke
wow
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-09-11 10:46 [#01968997]
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the second one made me shiver
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-09-11 11:05 [#01969007]
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Why don't we add in several other events, "time first jumper hit the floor", "time the first fireman died", "time the first survivour was pulled from the wreckage" etc. and have a whole afternoon of STFU.
Ahahaha! fav+
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-11 11:10 [#01969009]
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surely the seperate minutes of silence highlight how tragic this event was?
man your job must be fucking sick to moan about missing 3 mins of it. are you a porn star or something?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-09-11 11:19 [#01969012]
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there's a section of today's democracy now programme focusing on the 9/11 conspiracy theories vs the myth-debunkings..
here
will probably be worth the watch. gonna watch it now, in fact.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-11 11:19 [#01969013]
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Sounds like my kinda guy.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 11:19 [#01969014]
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That's like saying terrorism is good. That heroin really isn't doing you much good is it?
No "minute silence" or anything happened here. It was weird.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-11 11:24 [#01969019]
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This is Salman Rushdie on the evening of the attacks. Everybody else is flipping out, but he's just chillaxing like:
"Same shit babes, welcome to my world."
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-09-11 11:26 [#01969021]
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I keep meaning to buy a copy of The Satanic Verses ever since I saw him reading an excerpt from it on PBS. It's really good, interesting writing. But I don't want to get all martyred if I'm seen with it on my way home. :-(
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-11 11:33 [#01969027]
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He pissed a lot of people off as well by saying that he was a secular, atheist Muslim is the same way as you have secular, intellectual Jews. Verses is good, kinda in the same vein as The Unbearable Lightness of Being or Gravity's Rainbow, meta-fiction kinda stuff.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-11 11:44 [#01969040]
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Hahahahahaha...such wit, you.
By the way, someone needs to fly a couple of planes through this thread to bring it down and every other similar thread on this site. I'm so tired of all this 9/11 rememberance stuff. All the lame conspiracy shit that it brings out, all the self loathing Americans. Just let it go, let it fade away into the history books and in the minds of those it directly affected.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-09-11 11:47 [#01969045]
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I still haven't finished Gravity's Rainbow. I managed to make it to the part where Slothrop gets to the underground rocket facility and can't get any reading momentum going from there.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 12:01 [#01969059]
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Did anybody read how one of their interrogation techniques was to force them to listen to the music of eminem (serious)?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2006-09-11 12:09 [#01969071]
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this day is not about showing coolness. or even your coolness if it existed.
real human beings died because of that fucker Bush's administration.
and their relatives are suffering.
i can't imagine what i'd do to get Bush's head if my relatives died there and then.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-11 12:11 [#01969075]
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it is very easy for people who do not live in the states , it seems, to say "just forget about it and move on".
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-11 12:11 [#01969076]
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precisely
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-09-11 12:13 [#01969077]
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the peace on planet is possible,thanks to events like this. so please not more videos of the fucking planes*
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 12:17 [#01969082]
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fucking snakes?
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staz
on 2006-09-11 12:20 [#01969084]
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y'know, human beings are sorta flawed.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-11 12:33 [#01969090]
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extremely. They are too intelligent, meaning that any species with the intelligence to purposely torture others should be erased:
In a trial by ordeal called "dunking" or "ducking," supposed witches were immersed into a vat of water or pond, and taken out after some time, when the victim was given the opportunity to confess. If she confessed, she was killed; if she did not confess, she was submerged again. This process was usually repeated until the victim either drowned or submitted herself to execution in another way (hanging or, rarely, burning).
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-09-11 12:38 [#01969091]
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I hate that 9/11 is more aligned with anger and hatred than sadness in the US.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-11 12:56 [#01969108]
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Huh? If more people were like Salman, then you wouldn't have religious nutcases on both sides trying to kill each other over folk stories from thousands of years ago.
That would be cool.
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Mr Brazil
from Oh Joan, I love you so... on 2006-09-11 16:46 [#01969320]
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Are you alleging that I'm not an American, a foreigner? I say move on because I am an American that is tired of this tragedy conjuring up foreigners and their spiteful jealousy of our country. "Our"...I hesitate to even apply this term of possession to you for America seeing how you so quickly align your reasoning with that of obara, "i can't imagine what i'd do to get Bush's head if my relatives died there and then." To get Bush's head? Is that what you want, cygnus? Bush's head? I'd rather think you were just another self loathing American leftist dumbass if I wasn't so sure that your mind didn't possess the faculties for more than the most juvenile of thoughts.
obara - How is this the Bush administration's fault--No, forget an answer. Under that nice-guy sheen is just another American hating Euro, fucking insignificant pollock from an equally insignificant country.
And I can fucking care less about any figurative meaning about what you said. You're an ass and are about the last person to offer any relevent, valid opinions on this subject.
swears - You're a funny, witty guy. Keep it up. The English are always cool like that I suppose.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-09-11 16:51 [#01969321]
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