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I can't stand up for cygnus or obara, but you still haven't made your point, just attacked them. Just because you don't feel a certain way about something, you have no fucking right to tell other people to "get over it." |
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may the souls who perished in these attacks r.i.p. and all my energy to the families that were left behind in tears |
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Love will tear us apart. |
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Hm...I have never been this bummed out about 9/11. I tried to watch Kid606- Sometimes and couldn't. : / Ah well, 1.5 hrs more eh? |
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I thought drukqs was THE perfect album to come out during 9/11 .. It really resonated with me. The sadness in the piano tracks. The metalic nature of them. Its sounds cheezy, but its true. It just felt like the end of the world. A side of me was massively impressed with what they pulled off. So I had a little guilt in me for thinking that. Then I had dreams I was in the buildings getting ready to jump cause I had to, etc...I basically have a sense of dred with me all the time now. The world aint the same on some unseen demension. |
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i wasnt "alleging" or even insinuating that you weren't american, actually that post was barely a response to yours as much as a forethought. i did not mean to piss you off. chill out! it's a grave mistake to ignore 9/11 and write it off as another national tragedy because it is so closely related to SO MANY other things that are going on around in the world. like i said, if it had not happened, the war in iraq would not have happened either. and bush would NOT, i repeat, NOT have been re-elected in 2004 as his entire campaign surrounded "keeping our country safe" and "winning the war" in iraq. why doesn't the entire thing look sketchy to you? . The president's poll numbers nearly doubled overnight. . Our intelligence and defense services, who neither informed or defended us, got a huge new budget bounce. . The FBI got a big cash bonus too plus a secret police wet dream in the form of the Patriot Act. (And when a couple senators -- Daschle and Leahy say, "Slow down, this act's not exactly patriotic or even constitutional" - guess who gets anthrax in the mail?) . Arms merchants like Daddy Bush's Carlyle Group reaped billions, no, tens of billions, from new "War on Terrorism" orders. . Washington insider firms like Cheney's Halliburton, and GOP cash cow Bechtel harvested hundreds of billions in no-bid contracts as we methodically blow up and renovate both Afghanistan and Iraq. the 9/11 investigative commissioners have ties to oil, airline, and arms industries. NOT the white house. i don't even think they are officials, they are just a bunch of very rich men in suits. up until right before 9/11 the administration was going apeshit about saddam hussein. "we know he's got weapons of mass destruction". "we know he's got em." "we have to take him out." "we know he has ties to al qaeda." "we know he is harboring terrorists." a spread-shotgun-blast of LIES right before and after 9/11. those are things that have been proven to be not true. there were no t |
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what in the fuck? |
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i cannot believe that post was cut off, i am infuriated |
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wow I just read the democracy now transcript and the loose change guys got taught a thing or two. Completely dodging every fact with "thats a lie". but they had no real evidence, just a couple of mis-informed, out of context quotes and interviews...... Just lost my train of thought for some reason. Ill come back maybe |
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hit back, you shouldve |
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ceri is right, just have 3 minutes of proper silence also by focussing on those specific events you celebrate the actions of the terrorists instead of mourning the dead |
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I can't read this thread anymore.... |
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9/11 was preformance art |
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porsche 9/11 |
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Kerching! Someone gets it. 9/11 was a tragedy which I have no objection to remembering. I'd just rather it didn't turn into some self-perpetuating media sham that equates to a public working up of anger/bitterness (which unfortunately, seems the prevalent emotion) rather than a dignified, sombre mourning of the dead. I don't like being told to remember the dead in a given way. Yes, my post was tasteless, but that was the point: I found the email from work a bit offensive. Who arbiterily picked 3 distinct events (particularly the building falling down), rather than just remembering the dead? I prefer to do this sort of thing my own way. Instead of doing as they suggesting, during some time when I was alone and free of distraction, I spent a minute thinking of each of the following: Those who had died on the day; Those who had died as a result of it; their families and friends; and a minute thinking of those who will die in the future as a result of it. It was a lot more meaningful than three minutes scattered throughout the day ("Oh fuck, missed that one!"), stood out the front of the office in the cold, looking at my bored colleagues and thinking about how I'd fix the problem I'd continue working on when I got back to my desk. Which would you say is more respectful? The reason I hate all the hype and, as Jivverdicker put it, "getting all excited and wanking over it." is that it actually somehow detracts from the original thing. It's like Diana's death. People who slagged her off when she was alive were in tears when she died and throughout the whole thing I couldn't help but feel it actually had very little to do with Diana. It had become like a public mourning equivalent of the "five minute hate". Swears: I love you too big boy. *high fives* |
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Another great xlt classic. *bookmarks* |
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