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A good topic to get peoples opinions on: ARE WE ALONE? Are there others out there like us? Advanced races or perhaps primitive ones? Personally i believe there is. I mean why not? As far as we know the universe is infinite (~) and even if it isnt its pretty goddamn big, and odds are there are many other earth-like planets out there that can support life just as ours does. Its almost so possible that the thought of someone thinking we are alone in the universe is funny. Its amazing how ignorant people can be, thinking this whole universe is ours and we are all that lives in it! (No offence to any of you that do not believe in "aliens"). Please, opinions! |
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We are not alone. Hell no!!! |
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Damn straight! Thats 2 for NOT ALONE! Bah i think everyone is asleep, umm well i should be asleep too, well when u all wake up post wut u think! I'm very interested in this whole topic! |
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agreed, likehood of earth being the only planet posessing life is unlikely. is there life under the icy surface of europa? can't wait for that mission to get underway. |
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We are not alone._ there's already 6 M of E.Tz here... |
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We can't possibly be the only ones! What with Space probes and such, exploring more and more of the universe...I think it's just a matter of time.. |
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i think it's possible that we are alone in the universe... but i can't be sure of something like that |
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hard to say.... the odds were so overwhelmingly small for life to develop here that it's almost unimaginable that there should be life anywhere else. but since this galaxy is pretty big, who knows. and if you believe in parallel universes, well eat your heart out. |
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Does anyone think that our governments are keeping stuff from us? Like in the X-Files! |
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Doesn't matter to me that much - but at a guess i'd say we aren't alone. Altho whether it is in the form of a Hollywood alien or just a life form (whatever the definition of life is?), bacteria, something quite different to our conceptions of life etc. ? i wouldn't know .. but i'd probably put more money on the latter than the former ... but don't exlude either. :) hehe.. covered all bases there pretty much - except ofcourse if they don't exist .. hehe |
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Anyone read some Graham Hancock ?? he's got some interesting theories/ideas that link the pyramids/atlantis-atlanits/aliens (if you like) together .. |
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I like watching the documentories on the Discovery Channels about the theories of ancient Egypt and Atlantis etc.etc - I find it a fascinating subject! |
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I totally believe that life exsists else where in the Universe. It's just so damn BIG! The Mind boggles at the thought at there might not be an end at all. And even if there is an end it still is massively huge. But then if the universe did come to a end somewhere what would be behind it? Why would it just stop there? Oh dear, the questions! the questions! The idea that everything exsists just for us doesn't sound right. I also find ancient Egypt and Atlantis very fascinating. And maybe the government does keep stuff from us like on "The X Files". I'm very interested in Area 51 and stuff like that. |
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apparantly Atlantis is situated beneath Antarctica. there are maps from centuries ago which show the land beneath the ice, and modern technology has only just been able to confirm what the maps already state. |
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The ancient Egyptians had contact with the aliens. The aliens gave 'm some maps(Antarctica) and technology(pyramids). But the Egyptians probably did something terrible to disturb the interspecies-relationship. And that's why we haven't seen them ever since. I think the key to finding the aliens is to find out what the Egyptians did to scare them away. Maybe the aliens have allergies or something. |
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There was a story not so long ago that a group of archaeologists wanted to exacavate under the sphinx where there appears to be a large vault - but the authorities wouldn't allow it. Do you think that this just the 'government' from allowing people to get 'too close' to the truth? |
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Or it could be like stargate. Aliens came over thousands of years back and imitated our gods. Most of the ideas about gods basically say that they came down and they will come back. But i do think the government is hiding something. |
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I liked Stargate....good film! Not struck on the TV series though... |
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Yep, I reckon so. |
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i think it's pretty arrogant to believe that we are the only intelligent species in this universe. |
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I find it hard to believe that if there are really as many planets as scientists would have us believe, there is no other planet out of those with intelligent life... or life of any kind for that matter... so yes, I think there is... but who knows? |
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We did this thing in physics based on probability and we estimated there should be about 1000 other intelligent life planets, but if they were around we would have seen them by now I think. |
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That brings up a question: What's intelligent life. Being able to cope with your circumstances(like animals, plants) or being able to communicate with a large number of words(humans)? Where do we put the threshold? |
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is that the Drake Equation? Anyways, has anyone heard of this? I'm pretty sure it's unanswerable now, but if you had all the values you could estimate the number of civilizations in the universe or soemthing... |
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I think Intelligent would include the ability to think, and reason, and all that good stuff... |
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I think Intelligent would include the ability to think, and reason, and all that good stuff... |
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ya i agree phresch ..i think there is almost certainly a lot of other life out there.. probably a lot of intelligent life too but that depends on how we define life, and especially intelligence we listen for signals from space all the time, and just cus we haven't heard anything concrete yet, people assume that theres nothing out there... but remember: even one hundred years ago, we weren't able to send or recieve radio signals.....but we were certainly intelligent if there is a civilization like that only one or two stars away, we would have no way of knowing its there it could go the other way too: they could be way PAST radio waves as a means of communication. im sure WE will be some day... we'll find some better way of communicating. if there are aliens out there they might be using some really advanced (compared to us) form of communication that we cant even begin to imagine, meaning it would be useless to listen to radio waves and even if we did recieve a signal, how could we hope to understand it? |
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Dictionary.com's definition of the word intelligence... 1.The capacity to acquire and apply knowledge. 2.The faculty of thought and reason. 3.Superior powers of mind. Do you not think though that we recognise a signal from an alien species, purely on the basis that we didn't understand it or were not able to interpret it? |
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If there was some intelligence higher than ourselves out there, they would be clever enough not to visit assholes like humanity. and offcourse there is!!! it is said, that there is as many stars out there, as there is sand pellets on the entire earth. and remember, our sun is a star! with planets as a side thing. so i´d say the chance is pretty good!!! i´m also under the belief, that higher evolved individuals, has no need for a physical body. we need to expand our reality. because you cant see it, doesnt mean it doesnt exist! |
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"absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" -carl sagan our problem is we dont even have the ability to get any evidence, even if there was any (and i think there is) |
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if there were 1000 other intelligent life cultures, there still is not much chance that they would meet up with each other... unless the basics of physics, time, and space can be broken... civilizations rise and fall in a million years, maybe seperated by 100 million light years... i've read that, if you take a liberal assumption of there being lots of intelligent life in the universe, the odds of another planet having a spacefaring civilization in our own galaxy at the same timeframe in history (i.e. while humans exist like we do now) are not high, maybe one civilization other than ours in our entire galaxy, and it would be damn lucky to be within even 1000 light years, which a hell of a lot of space... ... do you know how long it would take to send humans to even close stars, within 10 light years? they could spend the entire GNP of the USA for 10 years, and they still probably not get a human to the Alpha-centauri in a human lifetime... i know, it sucks... |
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Perhaps they are sending us messages and signals but we don't have the equipment to know that it's there? And I'm totally sick and tired of the mainstream media making fun of people who believe aliens are out there. |
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I heard of that ubik, but i think the main problem is that when you think of space travel you think "step into huge chunk of metal and fly".... its so primitive! what about beings with no physical body, that can move with mind control... also, science is evolving exponentially. remember how people 100 years ago responded to the idea of an "airplane". |
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I remember this amazing artical from one of the many UFO magazines I buy which contained some great points to explain to friends/people who attacked you about beliving in intelligent life forms in outer space. I'm way to tired to type it up now but when I have some free time I'll tpye it up in this thread. It's very interesting and i"m sure a lot of you would enjoy it. |
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ya airplanes seemed like a crazy idea to people who were impressed with trains and downright impossible to people who lived like 500 years ago, before even trains im sure in the future we will have advanced technologies (communications, travel) that we couldn't even imagine today |
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There MUST be intelligent life somewhere, it's just a matter of time before we get advanced enough to be able to get in contact with them. That could take a LOOOOONNNGGG time... if there is life, it's pretty damn far away. Sigh, it's frustrating not knowing, I would be SO excited if they found life somewhere. Not just single celled assholes, but living, breathing, thinking things like us. I'd piss myself. |
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i wish they would all look like E.T. then. I love that cute little alien |
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i watched the Discovery Science channel yesterday regarding exactly that topic. my best answer is: i don't know |
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we can't be alone. |
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when we go to Mars one day just to survey & explore, we might leave some microorganisms behind when he head back home. throughout the next several million years or so, those microorganisms may evolve on Mars through natural selection. i dunno, just an idea. |
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Everything in the universe occurs at a snail's pace, so I won't see any really great discoveries in my lifetime... those organisms won't evolve until well after I'm dead... :-( I want to nuke some aggressive Martians. |
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maybe exploring Martians came to Earth 500 million years ago and left some microbes on Earth, and those evolved... |
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Wouldn't it of been great when you were a kid, to have been Elliot in E.T. and to have discovered him! |
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the whole alien thing and religion tie into each other very well. It was mentioned above about stargate, thats not too unrealistic, tho try telling that to a die hard religion freek, and they'll laugh at you. "My god is an alien? Ohh when you die your going to the bad place!" |
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there might be aliens, but they're not on earth, infiltrating our petty society. |
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Is it possible that we encounter them all the time, but they are not detectable by our 5 senses? That they are not on the same...wavelength? |
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Could be. I remember marlowe talking about his theory that there may be beings out of our wavelength. Which means that spirits and ghosts could be those phantom creatures. Possible. |
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I hope not. Are We Here for a Reason? |
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Depends what you mean by "we"? Animals? It's absolutely 100% certain that the universe is teaming with life, I don't think it's possible that one planet out of trillions and trillions of planets can sustain life the others not. Life as intelligent as humans? I think that's less likely, but again almost certain to exist. Problem is, not only the massive distances involved, of which human's probably have no realistic chance of ever reaching, but also the question of time. What's the chances of intelligent life not only existing, but also within the same time period? For example, life far more intelligent than ours could have existed 50 billions years ago, 20000 light years away from us. So yes, "intelligent" life exists I would imagine, but very rare - much too far for humans to find for thousands of years probably, and at time periods completely unequivalent to ours. |
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i like idea the most |
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