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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-26 12:51 [#01960133]
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I live in a lovely house, with really great people, in an upper-class neighbourhood.. The rent is very cheap, considering, but there is one draw-back - a pair of junkies live beneath us, in the basement.
Before I moved in, cars had gone missing from the front of the house, and cars were broken into. The junkies remain the prime suspects.
Last night, daft punk played, we all came home and had a party with about 50-60 people until about 7am. At 2am the female junkie began calling up to the door, demanding we turned the music off and kicked everyone out. She must've called up at least 5 times throughout the night, even after we'd turned the music down very considerably, threatning to petrol bomb the house and smash the windows of our cars.
When she was talking to me, she said both of these things and i kinda blurted out a "heh..??" expression to which she took grave offense, squaring up to me, getting right up in my face and shouting "what's so fucking funny" etc etc etc.
Just now she called up again, a housemate answered the door and she immediately asked for me by name. He said I wasn't in and she told him to tell me that she'd lost her job, and to tell me "thanks" and "to watch my fucking back."
What should I do? I'm worried any involvement of the gardai (police) would exacerbate the situation. Our landlady is completely impotent in dealing with them; she is a dithering old fool of a woman who seems to have no power over any of the occupants of the house.
Also, I'm afraid that if they're evicted, they'll come around with friends and do any amount of criminal damage to the house or ourselves.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-08-26 12:54 [#01960134]
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Give them a load of money so they OD and die.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-08-26 13:07 [#01960136]
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mostly times the junkies friends dont make things if is not
for money or drugs...what you got?... no fear
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-08-26 13:26 [#01960137]
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Shit, this is a quite bad situation man. This time I read every single sentence you typed but I still don't understand why this fucking female junkie would lost her job. I mean, is it your fault? Why you should watch your fucking back!? I'd suggest not to do something yourself with them. You should rather tell all this to the police. I know you will never listen to tridenti but this advise comes from a friend :)
Otherwise, listen to dog_belch.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2006-08-26 13:33 [#01960138]
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Could you try to grow a brain a little bit further from this place?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-26 13:39 [#01960141]
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unless they actually do something, there's pretty much nothing you can do. I mean, the police can't do anything unless there's a physical form of violence, I believe.
at best you could try keeping a log of incidents - noting date/time/what happened, etc.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-26 13:45 [#01960143]
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she was kept awake by the party, and didn't make it into work, causing her to lose her job.
qrter- i suppose you're right. it's frustrating that i'm powerless and frightened in my own home, but maybe this will all blow over and amount to nothing..
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-26 13:47 [#01960144]
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ideally, i would move the cars elsewhere, set up cctv around the joint, speak to the police and express your concern so at least if something happens you can go back to them and they'll be the main suspects in the police's eyes, tell them about the drugs, try and get them evicted, speak to the council,
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-08-26 13:49 [#01960145]
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Ah right.
Anyway you've been kinda threatened man and that isn't a joke.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-08-26 13:52 [#01960146]
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oh my god... i connect telepathy with the junkie woman, she has forgot who are you.
she got no work now and after,her bad vibes only try to eat from your fear energy....
dont feel guilt or fear,she is living on the dark dimensions.forget she now!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2006-08-26 13:57 [#01960147]
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Not to be a cock about it, but bringing 60 people back to a converted flat with people living below... if I was in that basement, junkie with an early start or not, I'd have killed you.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-26 14:00 [#01960148]
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Yes but you're a bitter old fart. :) I can totally see where she's coming from, but this is like a once-in-a-blue-moon thing. There've been 2 parties since I moved in, and I've been here for almost a year.
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ecnadniarb
on 2006-08-26 14:04 [#01960149]
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The junky does have a point. Don't worry though I have been threatened by loads of junkies and they don't seem to follow up on their threats.
Maybe you should apologise and offer to help them move out into the gutter.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2006-08-26 14:22 [#01960159]
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principle or peace of mind. were you in the right? also gotta remember these people have nothing to lose. hmm. i guess you don't know whether these people are calling your bluff or not. its up to you to decide whether they are or not. personally, i wouldnt take the chance.... but be diplomatic about it. on the other hand, yeah they are junkies, they are probably more worried about scoring, but i guess you know them better.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-08-26 14:58 [#01960173]
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punches to the face shall be administered
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-26 15:01 [#01960175]
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Ouch, A rave upstairs when your coming down off smack, your fucked mate, I'd move, now!
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-26 15:12 [#01960182]
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*you're,
do u really give a fuck abt my dislxic spellin anyway?
probably packin ur bags right now, hehe
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-26 15:18 [#01960186]
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This post reminds me of that LCD Soundsystem song, you know the one, very apt, hehe
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-26 15:44 [#01960199]
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"there's a fist fight brewing at my house, at my house"
and the great thing is, you'd just been to see them, so you probably were playing them when you got back, ace, you couldn't make it up.
obviuosly not funny for the poster, but you gotta admit, it's pretty cool
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-26 16:56 [#01960221]
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are you feeling okay?
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-26 17:02 [#01960224]
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yeah, if u don't know what the fuck I'm on about check this
http://www.discogs.com/release/407740
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j4ck
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-26 17:03 [#01960226]
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god dam smack heads
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-08-26 17:54 [#01960239]
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ehh... move. honestly.
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-08-26 17:56 [#01960240]
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if it's so serrious, move.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-26 17:56 [#01960241]
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Phhhhh... I know how it is when someone is making shit loads of noise in the middle of the night, its just unbearable. but it happens. I would say go and make a really big grown up apology and see if you can win them over with your irish charm. You guys still have that right? If you really feel under threat then make a police report and I'd probably do the cctv thing too, its not hard to get set up these days
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SValx
from United Kingdom on 2006-08-27 05:27 [#01960349]
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Yes I hadn't thought about cctv, but it is quite a good idea. I'd think about apologising though, because otherwise it'll just appear as if you don't give a shit and really get their backs up. What about the guy you get your net connection from... Liam(?) Have you spoken to him about it? WHat about having a word with the landlady's son? He's quite young and seems like a decent enough guy, doesn't he? Hope you're ok.x
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-27 09:10 [#01960399]
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Redrum had been on an acid bender for a few days and called his pal at work and was very excited. He was convinced he had found a gremlin. He rang his friend and very excitedly told him, “I’ve got a gremlin for ya,” and said he had it at his friend’s house, so when he came home, he could see it. The guy was like, “Awesome,” you know, as you’d react if someone told you he had a gremlin at your house. I don’t think he really knew what to expect. Anyway, he got home and redrum was still tripping out of his head and there in his kitchen was a small Down syndrome child about 10 to 12 years of age. That’s what the gremlin was. Apparently he found him in a shopping mall and brought the terrified child back to the house. Now the guy’s up on kidnapping charges, but he’ll get off if he claims insanity, because to him it wasn’t actually a child, it was a gremlin. In his mind, it was a gremlin. He can plead insanity because he was in no state to realize what he was doing. The guy hadn’t slept in a hundred hours.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-08-27 09:21 [#01960408]
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lost her job because of the party? wtf?
there are two options:
1. she lied to make you feel sad so you wouldn't make any more parties.
2. she just searched for something to kick your ass for.
you should decide which option is more right. i mean if they are REAL junkies than i doubt that she had a job actually. and if they are REAL junkies i highly doubt they have any friends nor the power to start a fight.
if they really look like pussies i would just completely ignore them. if they start making some fuss take your friends and hit the male one a few times on the nose. case closed.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-27 09:23 [#01960410]
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that's HILARIOUS
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-28 05:15 [#01960872]
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Hmmm. The new issue of vice is the best issue in years. My favorite are the fighting stories.
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swears
from junk sleep on 2006-08-28 05:17 [#01960874]
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Yes,I like to Ctrl C to da motherfuckin' V.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-28 05:23 [#01960875]
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About junkies. I can't say whether or not she really lost her job of if she is lying, but if she lost her job because of one bad day, chances are she probly close to being fired anyway. She just focused on you and your party because of how close in time that happened from her being fired. Generally junkies don't have much to live for, but they never really have any follow through. So at most, you can probly expect a lot of empty threats and dirty looks. Unless she needs to get ahold of crack, which would make your apartment a prime target for B&E. Make sure you have a security system set up, and get renters insurance.
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oyvinto
on 2006-08-28 05:57 [#01960885]
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junkies living in an upper-class neighbourhood and having jobs? that's elite junking
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-28 06:16 [#01960892]
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yeah it's a bit mad. i don't think there was any job - i think she was just getting pissed off at not being able to sleep. which is a legitimate grievance, i despise it too, but this was like the 2nd party in a year..
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zero-cool
on 2006-08-28 09:24 [#01960945]
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has our moral society, truly lost what past cultures have found esstianl in maintaing a healthy/safe modern world?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-08-28 14:12 [#01961107]
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This could have been avoided if you had invited them. Or at least informed them ahead of time.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-08-28 14:33 [#01961119]
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What I would have done:
(Junkie gets all up in my face):
"Whats so fucking funny!?"
(I grab her by the throat)
"YOU! YOU FUCKING SKANK"
(I bitch slap her face with my free hand and tell her if she ever threatens my life again she'll be the first to die)
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Junkies only understand their own kind. Sink to her level and outdo her a notch with her own bullshit. Always carry a knife on you. You might have to stab her but not kill her ya know?
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-08-28 14:37 [#01961120]
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Also, set up a video camera to record your vehicles. Next time that bullshit happens and you happen to catch them on tape, turn their asses into the police asap.
Also, take a shit in the upper part of their toilet, you know - not the bowl but the other part. They will constantly smell shit but take weeks to find out where its comming from.
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Falito
from Balenciaga on 2006-08-28 14:40 [#01961122]
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oh my god when i read the words of people like you are expressing here,i feel thankful for got a more relaxed mind that makes me think that i got more possibilities or facilities to enjoy life and things via freedom and knowledge,thanks.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-08-28 14:41 [#01961123]
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Or just tell the police the people below you have tons of paraphanelia and drugs. If you can get them hauled off to jail you wont have to worry about shit.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-28 16:12 [#01961167]
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just go and talk to her.
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RussellDust
on 2006-08-28 16:32 [#01961171]
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great story! you poor soul. "the female junkie" bit was funny...
nice intolerance/ignorance thing going on here, lovely!
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-08-28 18:11 [#01961226]
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throw another party! just kick their ass if they try something! go down and talk to them? that usually sets things straight.. you might even want to have a few friends around just in case. certainly dont move, no fucking way.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-08-28 18:16 [#01961227]
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seriously, get yourself a baseball bat just in case
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-08-28 18:16 [#01961228]
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and who the fuck brings 60 people to a flat? that is crazy.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-08-28 18:18 [#01961229]
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i have never understood the psychology of having a baseball bat.. a knife would do a much better job. you see, you are trying to scare people, you are not actually using the bat for anything.. a knife is a lot more scary then a baseball bat.
but then again, i gotta admit that if you actually wanted to stab/hit someone i would definately go for the baseball bat. its just way cooler!
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Anus_Presley
on 2006-08-28 18:21 [#01961230]
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that's what stops me carrrrying a knife. WHAT IF I HAD TO USE IT?!?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-08-28 18:21 [#01961231]
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yeah, then you would feel stupid.. because a baseball bat is way cooler. but you cant walk around with it. fuck knives!
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 23:32 [#01961284]
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"I would say go and make a really big grown up apology and see if you can win them over with your irish
charm"
Rofl, yeah that'd work, offer to take her out for a Guiness then on to a Val Doonican gig or something, sure to chill her out, same way I could use my cockney charm with a pint of bitter and Chas n Dave.
On a more serious note, my house was once ransacked by a crackhead, who just happened to live on our property and it wasn't pretty, the police didn't give a fuck either, we knew who did it, but unless you've got hard and fast proof they're not interested, especially if the suspect is a tenant because it renders most of the forensics rendundant.
I'm surprised you didn't do the weatheredstoner "YOU! YOU FUCKING SKANK" thing cos there were 60 of you at the time, you could have put the real wind up her but now she probably just thinks you're a wuss,
the way I see it you have 3 options,
1.Take proactive action against the junkie, either agressive or diplomatic
2.Be extra vigilant with your home and personal security
3.Move
Good luck ;)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-08-29 04:49 [#01961399]
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I'd move. Even if there were financial penalties for doing so, they can probably be avoided the following way:
Go and report the matter to the police. They won't do anything, but don't worry...
I'd ask your landlady to do something about it, in something you can "record" like a letter/email.
When she invariably (from what you've said) doesn't do anything about it, send another letter/whatever the next week. Then, move out, stiffing her for any rent/etc. remaining.
If she tries to take you to small claims court (or the irish equivalent) to reclaim the money, cite the problem of the junkys and saying that you moved out, "out of desperation" and due to the landlords refusal/inability to do anything about the problem. Use the letters to her and the reference of the complaint registered with the police as proof of this.
It would be a most unsympathetic magistrate to order you to pay the landlady under those circumstances.
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