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offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-26 12:51 [#01960133]
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I live in a lovely house, with really great people, in an
upper-class neighbourhood.. The rent is very cheap,
considering, but there is one draw-back - a pair of junkies
live beneath us, in the basement.

Before I moved in, cars had gone missing from the front of
the house, and cars were broken into. The junkies remain the
prime suspects.

Last night, daft punk played, we all came home and had a
party with about 50-60 people until about 7am. At 2am the
female junkie began calling up to the door, demanding we
turned the music off and kicked everyone out. She must've
called up at least 5 times throughout the night, even after
we'd turned the music down very considerably, threatning to
petrol bomb the house and smash the windows of our cars.

When she was talking to me, she said both of these things
and i kinda blurted out a "heh..??" expression to which she
took grave offense, squaring up to me, getting right up in
my face and shouting "what's so fucking funny" etc etc etc.


Just now she called up again, a housemate answered the door
and she immediately asked for me by name. He said I wasn't
in and she told him to tell me that she'd lost her job, and
to tell me "thanks" and "to watch my fucking back."

What should I do? I'm worried any involvement of the gardai
(police) would exacerbate the situation. Our landlady is
completely impotent in dealing with them; she is a dithering
old fool of a woman who seems to have no power over any of
the occupants of the house.

Also, I'm afraid that if they're evicted, they'll come
around with friends and do any amount of criminal damage to
the house or ourselves.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-08-26 12:54 [#01960134]
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Give them a load of money so they OD and die.


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2006-08-26 13:07 [#01960136]
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mostly times the junkies friends dont make things if is not

for money or drugs...what you got?...
no fear


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2006-08-26 13:26 [#01960137]
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Shit, this is a quite bad situation man. This time I read
every single sentence you typed but I still don't understand
why this fucking female junkie would lost her job. I mean,
is it your fault? Why you should watch your fucking back!?
I'd suggest not to do something yourself with them. You
should rather tell all this to the police. I know you will
never listen to tridenti but this advise comes from a friend
:)

Otherwise, listen to dog_belch.


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2006-08-26 13:33 [#01960138]
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Could you try to grow a brain a little bit further from this
place?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-26 13:39 [#01960141]
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unless they actually do something, there's pretty
much nothing you can do. I mean, the police can't do
anything unless there's a physical form of violence, I
believe.

at best you could try keeping a log of incidents - noting
date/time/what happened, etc.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-26 13:45 [#01960143]
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she was kept awake by the party, and didn't make it into
work, causing her to lose her job.

qrter- i suppose you're right. it's frustrating that i'm
powerless and frightened in my own home, but maybe this will
all blow over and amount to nothing..


 

offline jamesa from United Kingdom on 2006-08-26 13:47 [#01960144]
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ideally, i would move the cars elsewhere, set up cctv around
the joint, speak to the police and express your concern so
at least if something happens you can go back to them and
they'll be the main suspects in the police's eyes, tell them
about the drugs, try and get them evicted, speak to the
council,


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2006-08-26 13:49 [#01960145]
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Ah right.

Anyway you've been kinda threatened man and that isn't a
joke.


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2006-08-26 13:52 [#01960146]
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oh my god...
i connect telepathy with the junkie woman,
she has forgot who are you.

she got no work now and after,her bad vibes only try to eat
from your fear energy....
dont feel guilt or fear,she is living on the dark
dimensions.forget she now!


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-08-26 13:57 [#01960147]
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Not to be a cock about it, but bringing 60 people back to a
converted flat with people living below... if I was in that
basement, junkie with an early start or not, I'd have killed
you.


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-26 14:00 [#01960148]
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Yes but you're a bitter old fart. :) I can totally see where
she's coming from, but this is like a once-in-a-blue-moon
thing. There've been 2 parties since I moved in, and I've
been here for almost a year.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2006-08-26 14:04 [#01960149]
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The junky does have a point. Don't worry though I have been
threatened by loads of junkies and they don't seem to follow
up on their threats.

Maybe you should apologise and offer to help them move out
into the gutter.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2006-08-26 14:22 [#01960159]
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principle or peace of mind. were you in the right? also
gotta remember these people have nothing to lose. hmm. i
guess you don't know whether these people are calling your
bluff or not. its up to you to decide whether they are or
not. personally, i wouldnt take the chance.... but be
diplomatic about it. on the other hand, yeah they are
junkies, they are probably more worried about scoring, but i
guess you know them better.


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-08-26 14:58 [#01960173]
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punches to the face shall be administered


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-26 15:01 [#01960175]
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Ouch, A rave upstairs when your coming down off smack, your
fucked mate, I'd move, now!


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-26 15:12 [#01960182]
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*you're,

do u really give a fuck abt my dislxic spellin anyway?

probably packin ur bags right now, hehe


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-26 15:18 [#01960186]
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This post reminds me of that LCD Soundsystem song, you know
the one, very apt, hehe


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-26 15:44 [#01960199]
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"there's a fist fight brewing at my house, at my house"

and the great thing is, you'd just been to see them, so you
probably were playing them when you got back, ace, you
couldn't make it up.

obviuosly not funny for the poster, but you gotta admit,
it's pretty cool


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-08-26 16:56 [#01960221]
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are you feeling okay?


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-26 17:02 [#01960224]
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yeah, if u don't know what the fuck I'm on about check this

http://www.discogs.com/release/407740


 

offline j4ck from United Kingdom on 2006-08-26 17:03 [#01960226]
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god dam smack heads


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-08-26 17:54 [#01960239]
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ehh... move. honestly.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-08-26 17:56 [#01960240]
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if it's so serrious, move.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2006-08-26 17:56 [#01960241]
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Phhhhh... I know how it is when someone is making shit loads
of noise in the middle of the night, its just unbearable.
but it happens. I would say go and make a really big grown
up apology and see if you can win them over with your irish
charm. You guys still have that right? If you really feel
under threat then make a police report and I'd probably do
the cctv thing too, its not hard to get set up these days


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2006-08-27 05:27 [#01960349]
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Yes I hadn't thought about cctv, but it is quite a good
idea. I'd think about apologising though, because otherwise
it'll just appear as if you don't give a shit and really get
their backs up. What about the guy you get your net
connection from... Liam(?) Have you spoken to him about it?
WHat about having a word with the landlady's son? He's quite
young and seems like a decent enough guy, doesn't he? Hope
you're ok.x


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-27 09:10 [#01960399]
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Redrum had been on an acid bender for a few days and called
his pal at work and was very excited. He was convinced he
had found a gremlin. He rang his friend and very excitedly
told him, “I’ve got a gremlin for ya,” and said he had
it at his friend’s house, so when he came home, he could
see it. The guy was like, “Awesome,” you know, as
you’d react if someone told you he had a gremlin at your
house. I don’t think he really knew what to expect.
Anyway, he got home and redrum was still tripping out of his
head and there in his kitchen was a small Down syndrome
child about 10 to 12 years of age. That’s what the gremlin
was. Apparently he found him in a shopping mall and brought
the terrified child back to the house. Now the guy’s up on
kidnapping charges, but he’ll get off if he claims
insanity, because to him it wasn’t actually a child, it
was a gremlin. In his mind, it was a gremlin. He can plead
insanity because he was in no state to realize what he was
doing. The guy hadn’t slept in a hundred hours.



 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2006-08-27 09:21 [#01960408]
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lost her job because of the party? wtf?

there are two options:

1. she lied to make you feel sad so you wouldn't make any
more parties.

2. she just searched for something to kick your ass for.

you should decide which option is more right. i mean if they
are REAL junkies than i doubt that she had a job actually.
and if they are REAL junkies i highly doubt they have any
friends nor the power to start a fight.

if they really look like pussies i would just completely
ignore them. if they start making some fuss take your
friends and hit the male one a few times on the nose. case
closed.



 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-27 09:23 [#01960410]
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that's HILARIOUS


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-08-28 05:15 [#01960872]
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Hmmm. The new issue of vice is the best issue in years. My
favorite are the fighting stories.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-08-28 05:17 [#01960874]
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Yes,I like to Ctrl C to da motherfuckin' V.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-08-28 05:23 [#01960875]
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About junkies. I can't say whether or not she really lost
her job of if she is lying, but if she lost her job because
of one bad day, chances are she probly close to being fired
anyway. She just focused on you and your party because of
how close in time that happened from her being fired.
Generally junkies don't have much to live for, but they
never really have any follow through. So at most, you can
probly expect a lot of empty threats and dirty looks. Unless
she needs to get ahold of crack, which would make your
apartment a prime target for B&E. Make sure you have a
security system set up, and get renters insurance.


 

offline oyvinto on 2006-08-28 05:57 [#01960885]
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junkies living in an upper-class neighbourhood and having
jobs? that's elite junking


 

offline redrum from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2006-08-28 06:16 [#01960892]
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yeah it's a bit mad. i don't think there was any job - i
think she was just getting pissed off at not being able to
sleep. which is a legitimate grievance, i despise it too,
but this was like the 2nd party in a year..


 

offline zero-cool on 2006-08-28 09:24 [#01960945]
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has our moral society, truly lost what past cultures have
found esstianl in maintaing a healthy/safe modern world?


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2006-08-28 14:12 [#01961107]
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This could have been avoided if you had invited them. Or at
least informed them ahead of time.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-08-28 14:33 [#01961119]
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What I would have done:

(Junkie gets all up in my face):

"Whats so fucking funny!?"

(I grab her by the throat)

"YOU! YOU FUCKING SKANK"

(I bitch slap her face with my free hand and tell her if she
ever threatens my life again she'll be the first to die)
_______________

Junkies only understand their own kind. Sink to her level
and outdo her a notch with her own bullshit. Always carry a
knife on you. You might have to stab her but not kill her ya
know?


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-08-28 14:37 [#01961120]
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Also, set up a video camera to record your vehicles. Next
time that bullshit happens and you happen to catch them on
tape, turn their asses into the police asap.

Also, take a shit in the upper part of their toilet, you
know - not the bowl but the other part. They will constantly
smell shit but take weeks to find out where its comming
from.


 

offline Falito from Balenciaga on 2006-08-28 14:40 [#01961122]
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oh my god when i read the words of people like you are
expressing here,i feel thankful for got a more relaxed mind
that makes me think that i got more possibilities or
facilities to enjoy life and things via freedom and
knowledge,thanks.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2006-08-28 14:41 [#01961123]
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Or just tell the police the people below you have tons of
paraphanelia and drugs. If you can get them hauled off to
jail you wont have to worry about shit.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-08-28 16:12 [#01961167]
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just go and talk to her.


 

offline RussellDust on 2006-08-28 16:32 [#01961171]
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great story! you poor soul.
"the female junkie" bit was funny...

nice intolerance/ignorance thing going on here, lovely!


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-08-28 18:11 [#01961226]
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throw another party! just kick their ass if they try
something! go down and talk to them? that usually sets
things straight.. you might even want to have a few friends
around just in case. certainly dont move, no fucking way.


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2006-08-28 18:16 [#01961227]
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seriously, get yourself a baseball bat just in case


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-08-28 18:16 [#01961228]
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and who the fuck brings 60 people to a flat? that is crazy.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-08-28 18:18 [#01961229]
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i have never understood the psychology of having a baseball
bat.. a knife would do a much better job. you see, you are
trying to scare people, you are not actually using the bat
for anything.. a knife is a lot more scary then a baseball
bat.

but then again, i gotta admit that if you actually wanted to
stab/hit someone i would definately go for the baseball bat.
its just way cooler!


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2006-08-28 18:21 [#01961230]
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that's what stops me carrrrying a knife. WHAT IF I HAD TO
USE IT?!?


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-08-28 18:21 [#01961231]
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yeah, then you would feel stupid.. because a baseball bat is
way cooler. but you cant walk around with it. fuck knives!


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-08-28 23:32 [#01961284]
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"I would say go and make a really big grown
up apology and see if you can win them over with your irish

charm"

Rofl, yeah that'd work, offer to take her out for a Guiness
then on to a Val Doonican gig or something, sure to chill
her out, same way I could use my cockney charm with a pint
of bitter and Chas n Dave.

On a more serious note, my house was once ransacked by a
crackhead, who just happened to live on our property and it
wasn't pretty, the police didn't give a fuck either, we knew
who did it, but unless you've got hard and fast proof
they're not interested, especially if the suspect is a
tenant because it renders most of the forensics rendundant.

I'm surprised you didn't do the weatheredstoner "YOU! YOU
FUCKING SKANK" thing cos there were 60 of you at the time,
you could have put the real wind up her but now she probably
just thinks you're a wuss,

the way I see it you have 3 options,

1.Take proactive action against the junkie, either agressive
or diplomatic

2.Be extra vigilant with your home and personal security

3.Move

Good luck ;)



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-08-29 04:49 [#01961399]
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I'd move. Even if there were financial penalties for doing
so, they can probably be avoided the following way:

Go and report the matter to the police. They won't do
anything, but don't worry...

I'd ask your landlady to do something about it, in something
you can "record" like a letter/email.

When she invariably (from what you've said) doesn't do
anything about it, send another letter/whatever the next
week. Then, move out, stiffing her for any rent/etc.
remaining.
If she tries to take you to small claims court (or the irish
equivalent) to reclaim the money, cite the problem of the
junkys and saying that you moved out, "out of desperation"
and due to the landlords refusal/inability to do anything
about the problem. Use the letters to her and the reference
of the complaint registered with the police as proof of
this.

It would be a most unsympathetic magistrate to order you to
pay the landlady under those circumstances.



 


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