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I think vinyl will become a "collectible novelty", it pretty much already has. mp3 will become the new standard audio format, or more probably an evolved form of mp3, I'd guess. basically, no more vinyl, no more cd's, just hard, hard drives. or an evolved form of hard drives. |
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they should put mp3's on vinyl. |
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didn't Warp already do that? |
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So what |
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Vinyl could stay alive a few more years because of scratching. I've not tried Final Scratch yet but I'm thinking of getting one so I can scratch my mp3! |
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Hello fabien, i watched your film about i believe i can fly and i loved it. I can't wait for your new stuff. Cheers. |
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i read a review of that, and it said that it wasn't good enough for scratching, due to latency issues. but i'm not a dj, and it might have developed in the last few years. |
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Thanks, I've actually made a lot of since then. |
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unfortunately you are correct, im still buying vinyls,but ive bought final scratch and the moment my new lappie comes im gonna join the world of mp3 purchases. there is a chance skam will be selling mp3 in the near future so then my life is complete. thank you. |
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Vinyl's always going to be around. There will always be the purists who will only/mostly buy vinyl. |
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Some good points, but this part is incorrect: "Your average clubber is not a discerning audiophile. And they’re not only unaware of your medium of choice, they ultimately don’t really care." So why do all music videos have a DJ using a pair of Tech 12s rather than a laptop with Traktor? There's no denying the image of a DJ with turntables is iconic. A nerd hunched over, squinting at a laptop screen doesn't have the same aura of cool. I must agree thought; once there's a cheap, reliable, good sounding Final Scratch/similar available, vinyl's days really will be numbered. However, I bet you'll still have a few audiophile versions of (new) releases coming out on vinyl and I also bet you'll have people who collect vinyl still (even if they very rarely actually play it). |
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its just much more fun with turntables and vinyl! thats why i keep buying it at least. otherwise i could just download music. |
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Don't get me wrong; I love vinyl and scratching and use my decks almost every day. I maintain that mixing with vinyl is a lot more skillful and rewarding than using traktor and is certainly more of a spectacle to watch: Q-bert tearing it up on turntables or clicking away on a laptop? It's no contest. It's just that once there's a cheaper/better version of the final scratch, I really won't be able to justify the cost of buying 2 copies of a battle record at £30 a time, when I can DL it for a fraction of the price (or free, if I'm feeling naughty). |
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WHOA. Let's go. futureimage: yeah I'd like to go on buying vinyls... the problem is that maybe one day nobody will fabric them anymore! |
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media food |
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im the average young man of the future and I dont much care for vinyl |
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Wow, I almost read half of this shit article. |
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strange i was just linked to this video where it sounds like this guy says 'the medium is the message' http://www.triamazikamno.com/delightful/telrev3.mov |
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love vinyl, thanks |
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icons come and go, though. |
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hahaha there is no skill in using traktor,its like using a calculater for simple maths- if ive offended anybody-GOOD. |
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I just read in my local paper that my local record shop is closing. This is really sad. Apparently it is to due to declining sales and the interent. Going to that shop was an experience. They would play music on the decks and I would hear it and be introduced to new and wonderous worlds. They could recommend things and you could talk about everything and anything, the internet just doesn't compare. I could walk to the shop, spend a few hours there, walk home with a reassuringly heavy bag of records, old and new and play them once I got in. It was something to look forward to. Records are real, you can touch them, feel them. mp3 is vacuous. there is something nice about a record with all its imperfections, clicks pops, etc. Record sleeves are wonderful artworks that come free with the music. 12" x 12" at least, put the good ones on your wall and admire them. Newer is not necessarily better. One day I will write my paper "The falacy that new = better", its things like the decline of vinyl that 'inspire' me to write it. It's all very sad, most young kids now just download everything and have no appreciation, I can only hope that they get inquisitive and ask mum/dad what those weird black frisbees are all about and get into records that way. Sometimes I feel so old...I'm only 21. Sorry if this is monoid-esque, but I just don't like a lot of the things the world is doing because it is new and not necessarily better. |
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i agree 100% almost every sunday i can be found in vinyl exchange passing an hour or so,but the truth is vinyl is and will be replaced by other formats-the hardware dj will never die,but he wont be using vinyl. |
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A record shop in Cheltenham where I got almost all my Analords from has got rid of pretty much 9/10 of it. Combo: I want a vinyl presser, so when I'm a producer..... lol Ceri: Yes, that is iconic, and I don't want to get weird looks when I got my first set... with a laptop Cunty: It is a lot more fun. Problem is, I never find the time to do all this. |
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I don't think it's so much about mp3-technology being new is what makes it popular, though - I think it's because it's more convenient for most people. easy to use, takes little to no space, lots of music on your iBob, etc. and you can steal them quite easily too. not saying I'm a fan of mp3s, neither am I a big fan of vinyl. mp3s tend to sound shit and you lose the whole "collection of tracks as an album"-thing. on the other hand, vinyl is a bit unwieldly and personally I'm just too lazy to take proper care of vinyl. that said, I do have a small collection and I'll buy it if there's only vinyl to be had. I do love recordstores, though. it's a completely different experience to hold an album in your hands, having a listen in the store itself. the whole mp3-thing seems to encourage people to be less appreciative - listening to the first 10 seconds of a track and immediately making up your mind. there's such a lot on offer and it so easy to get things. on the other hand, I would've missed out on a shitload of music I would've never even heard of if it wasn't for the internet. if you get to know the right people, through messageboards like these for example, you can get the best recommendations you could ever hope to find. |
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I have to smell my 12" straight out of the sleeve. MP3 smells like shit (if smells at all). And for what others do, I don't give a fuck. |
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look what happened to the shop where i work mp3s sound shite... records will return or some next format to get us all to buy stuff we already bought all over again.... |
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Vinyl is not going to die anytime soon, the sheer amount of it that is still in production/being made is pretty huge still. There are a ridiculous amount of collectors out there, many on this site .. including myself. |
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VINYL FOREVER |
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Let's die before vinyl dies. |
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Actually, they do sound shite. Mainly because I use 96kbps half the time..... I'll get my coat. |
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Thats the nature of progress. It doesn't leave much room for romantics. Not that I don't love playing records, but MP3's are much easier to deal with. However, people say the same thing about hardware vs software synthesizers for a few years, and its two totally different experiences. I get excited about getting new hardware. New software is not so much. Physical objects is less flexible, more expensive, more time consuming, and more space. Software isn't as fun or expressive. That being said, I would probly end up buying a copy of bosendorfer before I bought a grand piano. I love midi too much. |
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mp3's will be replaced with a format like wav or flac, then they'll sound good =p but you'll always be able to buy a physical representation of it tho. look at books, they were to disapear if we had to believe what was said 10-15 years ago, when cd-rom technology was growing. they are still around and nobody would say it is the same to read on a computer screen and reading with the book in you hand. as for vinyl, i'm just sad Man can't come up with a viable alternative, because i'm sure technicaly speaking we could build an analog medium that is cheaper/smaller/better/last longer than vinyl records, but it's not like it would be a gold-mine... |
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Shit, I best post in this thread before vinyl dies to seal my place in history. |
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But seriously, every single one of my DJ/producer friends I spoke to said that the vinyl market is dying to the point where its just not even profitable to press to it anymore. Its a real shame, as I love the format and still buy vinyl every week. I also sense that the digital market will become the leader in the next 5-10 years. The iPod boom and general rise in MP3 players will of course account for this, and in fairness, it is very cool to have a digital archive of all your music. But vinyl has died once already. It was the electronic music scene which revived it. Maybe there is life left in the old dog yet... |
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Keep 'em spinin' I say ! ! ! ! |
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According to this image, vinyl has been dead for almost 3 years already. |
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I think it was probly hiphop that had a bigger hand in reviving it than electronic music. |
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Electronic music just pushed the revival along. |
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I think it's more about the booming of the whole DJ culture that made vinyl popular again. everyone's a dj these days. |
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...mostly I hate the big sensitive vinyl discs and the noise and crackles they bring to the sound, but then again - I could only buy the original basic channel stuff by buying 12" records... (I record them straight to computer first thing I do) If the material are availble on beatport as wav, I buy it from them instead. For me it's all about the music - the record itself is of no interest... |
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Ceri JC:arnt Flacs the new thing :) |
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I got to say all you vinyl-lickers sound so daft to me, just face the fact that you like vinyl because its different and youre used to it. I mean dave g says vinyl is better because it has crackles and pops, and big pretty pictures with it, and cause you can go into the shops and chat about it... these are valid reasons for liking vinyl but they definetly dont make it better. mp3s dont take up any space, theyre cheap, you can dj with them without having to spend fuck loads on records every week, the quality is sufficient and can easily be as good, and yes Traktor is easy to use. I honestly dont think any replacement format would please you folks, youre welcome to enjoy vinyl but do you really believe its actually superior? |
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you can play vinyl without electricity what you gonna do with your 50,000+ mp3's when the power goes off fuckwad? |
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media food |
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media eat vinyl ? |
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some people are arsed about quality |
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"the quality is sufficient and can easily be as good" how the fuck do you work that one out? |
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can you DJ lossless yet? |
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