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Its a store in Japan |
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the more gear you have, the better the music you make is. |
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fucking hell 5 Jupiter 8's 80 oscillators!!! |
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All that gear should be spread out one each for needy musicians, not stocked up at some crappy room never being put to use.. |
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taxidermist's home |
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people have gear because they spend money on it. |
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What are you talking about? Impakt and Oscilik both have more gear than I do. (And I don't really like most of the older stuff that isn't sequential circuits) |
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lol i don't have that much, not really i personally only have 3 synths and 4 drum machines granted, most of them are of the "highly sought after" variety, but there are people on here that certainly have more gear than me :) i've just been lucky/foolish enough to spend it on the classics! but i have more in the pipeline...i've been making a notebook of stuff i want...heheh |
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Yeah. I have a list too. I am trying to not let it get any longer than it is. I need to stop somewhere, and GAS can only get worse until it kills you. |
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Tell me about, I think it's cool though. My favorite hobby! |
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i'm gonna share with you what's on my list you can all laugh out loud, but at some point the gear that i have right now was on a list, and i never thought i'd have em....let's just see! each item has an approximate price (based on my own estimates) which may or may not be wildly disproportionate! (please note that my estimates are for GOOD CONDITION ITEMS) Sequential Circuits Pro One (£300-£400) Roland SH-101 (£250-£400) Kenton Pro2000MkII (£250) Roland TR-707 (£100-£200) Roland TR-727 (£100-£200) Roland TR-505 (£30-£100) Roland TR-626 (£30-£100) OSC OSCar (£500-£1000) Yamaha 16/4 Mixer (£250) Korg MS-20 (£400-£700) Akai S3000XL (£200-£300) Minimoog Voyager (£2000) Machinedrum UserWave Upgrade (£250-£350) and the list is growing!!! |
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You should steer clear of the 626 and 505 imo, same goes for cheap yamaha mixers :) |
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What the beat?! :D |
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i like the sound of the 505 and 626 and the Yamaha 16/4 seems like an alright mixer. if i had the money i'd have th 32/16FX, but i can't afford to spend nearly £700 on a mixer...at least not yet ;) |
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I'd rather go for a second hand vintage mixer, but that's me :) |
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i had a second hand vintage mixer...a RAM Micro desk...but it was well shit. half of it didn't work, and most of the inputs where phono! anyways, to be honest i've been contemplating getting a digital desk so i can do automated mutes and automated panning, but i'm not sure how it'd fare with my Atari rig... |
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from the post your set up thread imo it seems you have the nicest set up or at leats the one i would most like to steal! |
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Sheeeyt. You boys should see some of the pawn shops here. Loads of stuff you might want, not too bad on price for some people, just not me. |
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gear is overrated |
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Heh. Well, both quoth and oscilik have one more machinedrum than I have. I am going to be trying to get a Virus TI next. 16 part multitimbral, 80 polyphony. VST support if I ever wanted to start using the computer again, as unlikely as that is. |
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This is five-g in Japan. A store!! |
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I saw poster tonight, advertising some big Marxist gathering. All I can think now is.... CAPITALISM IS FUCKING AWESOMES. |
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yes that is true...and they're fucking awesome ahh you have an MPC....i've been thinking about getting hold of an MPC, purely for sampling drums....i wouldn't be using the MIDI sequencing on there at all.... would it be worth me getting just to use as a percussion sequencer? |
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overpriced |
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Take Pills Die Records |
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No. Just get an s950 (12 bit!!). But the sequencing is awesome. You would be a fool not to use it as the brain of your studio. |
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i suppose i'm stuck in the "Cubase" style sequencer paradigm! thanks for the info :D |
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I've love to afford hardware for my setup but sadly that's not going to happen right now. Maybe in the future. |
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i know you've been desperate for some hardware for a while man, hang in there. you'll make it do you have any idea what you'd like to be your first synth? and your first drum machine? when i first got serious into making music i wanted to get the Access Virus Indigo (not Indigo2 or Indigo TI, the original Indigo!)....what i actually ended up having as my first synth is my Roland MC-202 if i can ever find an original Indigo going cheap i may get one! |
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Well Ceri is actually going to lend me his EA1 soon so i'll be making a step there :D As for my own one, too many things that I see and think, oh shit that's cool! I should really use my Clavinova more :P |
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!!! clavinovas are super! |
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Impakt: Stop dreaming and get down to work :P ;) |
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what is the name of the synth with a fucking rainbow on it??? |
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they're Roland Jupiter 8's |
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They are indeed. I've even got it in my room now. |
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There is a line in the song English man in New York, sung by Sting, where he says: "Takes more than combat gear to make a man". That line is wonderful, but with a little subversion it easily becomes: "Takes more than a Jupiter 8 to make a musician". You don't really need hundreds of ancient synths, drum machines and boxes with knobs. You can buy modern synths which can do a very very respectable sound now, Alesis Ion, DSI Evolver, Radikal Spectralis. Just save yourself a fortune, head over to hollowsun.com and pick up their vintage sample pack. I have loads of the samples back from when they were free from hollowsun, I use them on my akai S5000 and after it's gone through my fx unit it is indistinguisable from the real thing. By all means buy equipment, but be sensible. If you buy a 808, then you can only make 808 sounds, but with a decent sampler and a CD of sounds, I can have an 808,909,606, linn, sp1200, etc |
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"If you buy a 808, then you can only make 808 sounds, but with a decent sampler and a CD of sounds, I can have an 808,909,606, linn, sp1200, etc" no, what you have there is a sampler with samples of instruments you don't get their analog-ness, their "inconsistencies" |
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I'm sorry but that is crap. Click the link and tell me which ones have analogue-ness . Modern synths do a VERY respectable 'analogue' style now, things have moved a long way from the dx7, using DSP or even LFO's many of the analogue style "inconsistencies" can be modelled. By feeding the VCO control with random numbers you effectively model thermal noise in resistors on a VCO tune line. I'm not saying analogue doesn't sound great, cos it does, but so does digital. |
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i can't - i'm at work, i shouldn't even be on here! anyways, it's not just the sound if you sample an 909, you don't get the programming style, and the whole user experience also, i've noticed that a 909 that's sequenced from the internal step sequencer sounds different (in terms of timing) to the same 909 that's being sequenced externally...i dunno what it is about it, but the 909 sounds a little "lazier"...but in a good way, it gives character to the sound....of course in your argument there's always "groove" quantising, but anyways...i'm tired of the whole debate. i buy the stuff i buy because i want to buy it. if someone else wants to sample the instruments, and have added features/limitations, then that's up to them :) btw, the Akai S5000...is that the one that has the detachable control panel thing that's huge?? |
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the interface makes all the difference! |
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also, although inconsistencies can be modelled, they're far from perfect realizations. |
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I think if you can't make good music on some basic program like floops or whatever, then you're never gonna be able to make good music. Although I can see the appeal of having an actual, real 808 or whatever just for the sake of it. |
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honestly, i dunno what it is about the 808, but it's so fucking easy and fun to build a pattern on it very very easy to make some nice grooves on there...it's not hard to see why it's the hip-hop drum machine of choice for many artists i've been sat on my 808 for hours at a stretch. with the 909 i just find myself building standard 4 on the floor stuff, the machinedrum is cool and fun but you need to get really deep into it to get mad effects. the 808 is simple, and fun :) |
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The only reason I want hardware is because i love twiddling knobs. oo eer missus. |
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now that's the S6000, the 4U one, mine is the 3U rack mount one with the same innards, minus a few bits and no detachable screen. The voices are cut to 64 but can be expanded to 128 with an addon card. It doesn't have the fx card fitted as standard either. 'only' 8 analogue out's but can be expanded to 16 with an extra card. No HDD as standard, but one can be fitted. The S6000 has a fan, the S5000 doesn't The one I have doesn't have an internal HDD, has 64 voice, no fx card, 8 analogue outs The size of the LCD is still the same as the S6000, i.e. HUGE. It's a joy to use. The CPU shows its age on timestretching at high quality on long samples. I've got the USB card which let's you use the front panel from a PC and also drag and drop samples and edit programs with a nice screen editor. Both have digital AES/EBU and also fibre optic. You can get an ADAT card for both, SCSI 3 connections and wordclock, midi (in/out/thru) x 2. sampling is max: 48kHz, 16bit, 18 bit A-D converters with 64 x oversampling 5th order delta sigma. 20 bit D-A converters with 128 x oversampling delta sigma on all outputs. . It's brilliant :D |
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Gear is a hobby in itself... |
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thats exactly the main reason i hate software and love hardware MIDI controller surfaces are ok, but nothing quite cuts it like the real hardware in front of you also i really wouldn't like to be doing a live gig with just a laptop... hats off to people who pull it off with an element of performance actually....i know there's a few guys on here that are laptop based...you have more patience than i ever will! |
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now that is a tasty sampler :D i always wanted an S3000XL or an S32000Xl or something, but when i saw the new Akai stuff like the S5000 and S6000 i really wanted one. i hadn't heard any reviews about them though.... glad you're happy with it :) i'm assuming you can downsample? when you say 64 voices do you mean 64note poly??! |
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