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offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-05-09 14:06 [#01895702]
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lush-spooky
ride-nowhere
MBV-loveless

etc


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2006-05-09 14:44 [#01895729]
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Slowdive- Souvlaki
the Lilys- Eccsame the Photon Band
the Field Mice (sometimes)
Low- I Could Live in Hope



 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-09 14:47 [#01895732]
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THE CRANES!


 

offline felch king on 2006-05-09 15:05 [#01895738]
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lead singer of ride was shite.



 

offline uzim on 2006-05-09 15:09 [#01895739]
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i have Nowhere and Loveless... but i don't
know what is this "shoegazing" thing, even though i've heard
the name already - is The Jesus & Mary Chain shoegaze?


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-05-09 16:54 [#01895809]
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FLYING SAUCER ATTACK


 

offline uviol from United States on 2006-05-09 17:19 [#01895828]
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yeah they are. anyone with flanged out spacey delayed
guitars and tons of FX on everything is more or less
shoegazer.

cocteau twins, MBV, ultra vivid scene (sorta, dog_belch
would be the one to confirm or deny that claim..)

there's also alot of good underrated shoegazer music out
there like Orange and Elysium.


 

offline uviol from United States on 2006-05-09 17:20 [#01895829]
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oh man, and love spirals downwards!


 

offline uzim on 2006-05-09 17:43 [#01895852]
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thanks : )

i like the Cocteau Twins very much too.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-09 20:48 [#01895902]
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I still rate a lot of the bands from that time that may have
stylistically had some elements of shoegazing (read Velvet
Underground influence) but weren't quite so easy to place,
Pale Saints, Ultra Vivid Scene as Uviol mentions, Loop,
Spacemen 3, and a lot of others consigned to just being
mentioned on badly designed websites and hoarded by virtual
p2p collector scum who sit on the rare 7" and bootleg rips
which would have been rarer than hen's teeth "back in the
day" but that's progress.

Chapterhouse are still a joke, though.


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2006-05-09 20:55 [#01895905]
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I'd like to hear more of what dog_belch has to say about
this.....


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2006-05-09 21:00 [#01895906]
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SHUT UP then!

sheesh, some people..!


 

offline darkpromenade from Australia on 2006-05-09 21:02 [#01895907]
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light grey and boldless


 

offline optimus prime on 2006-05-09 21:20 [#01895908]
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the only cranes song i like is beautiful friend, which is an
absolutely gorgeous song.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2006-05-09 22:38 [#01895913]
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i always thought Shoegaze was a pretty vague term to begin
with.


 

offline optimus prime on 2006-05-09 22:44 [#01895914]
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i always thought it just meant really boring music.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-09 22:59 [#01895916]
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Another little insight into your genius, go write another
4000 page short story.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-10 04:10 [#01895989]
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haha. zing.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-05-10 04:31 [#01895994]
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my shoegaze stars list, incl. "isn't anything"


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-05-10 07:30 [#01896103]
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shoegaze has to be one of the worst terms ever invented by a
journalist.

i do still listen to a number of records and bands from that
era, "raise" by swervedriver might be my favorite. it's
also my #1 "criminally out-of-print" album. another gem:
"everything's alright forever" by the boo radleys.



 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-05-10 07:49 [#01896112]
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if Slowdive is shoegaze - then i can say i listen to them.
and i like them.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-05-10 08:05 [#01896118]
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they were much maligned (after all, shoegaze is a pejorative
term) back in the day, called a mbv ripoff etc, but now it's
cool to like them. it's nice to see the tunes have stood
the test of time.

your shoegaze stars list left a bit to be desired...


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-05-10 08:30 [#01896131]
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i heard Mojave 3 before Slowdive and i must say the former
sucks compared to the latter which is capable of taking you
for some nostalgia-end-of-the-eighties-early-nineties trip.

that list is a joke ;]


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2006-05-10 08:41 [#01896135]
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Its such a stupid name.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-05-10 08:45 [#01896136]
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maybe "neoneoneopsychedelic" would have been better...


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2006-05-10 08:50 [#01896138]
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or post-psychedelic


 

offline optimus prime on 2006-05-10 20:08 [#01896679]
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even though i actually enjoy 'shoegaze' and was just making
a joke? weren't you the one i talked about the greatness of
the low christmas ep with?


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-11 02:34 [#01896743]
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Yea, I think so. I too was jesting, don't fret. I haven't
seen any of your stuff...

I suppose I should add an obligatory word of praise for
Loveless as I seem to do in many threads...

Praise be!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-11 03:30 [#01896753]
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what?


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-05-11 03:54 [#01896754]
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Attached picture

 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-11 05:04 [#01896767]
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What whatt?


 

offline unabomber from Palma de Mallorca (Spain) on 2006-05-11 05:09 [#01896768]
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watts (prophets)?


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-11 05:28 [#01896777]
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eh


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2006-05-11 06:40 [#01896796]
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Serena Maneesh

Excellent Norwegian shoegazer-band. Check out the track
called Drain Cosmetics. It could have been a Loveless-track.
Really!


 

offline Ezkerraldean from the lowest common denominator (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-11 07:00 [#01896816]
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Seefeel arent/werent too bad


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2006-05-11 07:02 [#01896819]
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YEAYH


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-11 09:34 [#01896898]
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This My Bloody Valentine release noone seems to
know (apart from you Dog Belch). Its amazing. Its like an
add-on to Loveless, and I recommend it very very much. It
has interludes between the tracks which are as amazing as
the songs (and clearly are hte inspiration for a lot of
Boards of Canada interludey moments)


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-05-11 09:37 [#01896899]
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no one seems to know?

that seems hard to believe. anyway, i'd definitely rate it
as tied for their best release, along with the glider ep.



 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-11 11:18 [#01896939]
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Honey Power is such an awesome track on that ep. But yeah, I
think when people mention a link between MBV and BOC I agree
with what Clint says, more than any guitary element or
citing Loveless as an influence.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-11 11:47 [#01896971]
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Yeah, fans will know it, I guess, but its not really talked
about anywhere near as much as the albums, it seems. Even
though its as good as either (albeit shorter). How stupid
that their best stuff is outta print... It took me a while
to stumble across it a few months back, but its been on
constant rotation since.

I had the MP3s of Glider a while back but I'll need to get
the CD somehow. There were some top ones on that, although I
really think the instrumental bits on Tremolo add sparkle to
the release as a whole.


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-05-11 11:49 [#01896972]
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Dinosaur Jr. and Mew


 

offline NewSkoolScience from Outer Bongolia on 2006-05-11 12:10 [#01896989]
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ChapterHouse vs. Global Communication.
Pentamorous Metamorphosis.



 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-05-11 13:17 [#01897028]
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i agree absolutely about the interludes, they add a lot of
atmosphere and set the tracks off perfectly. i was actually
a little disappointed with loveless when it first came out,
since the "tremolo" ep raised the bar so high. this is the
second time in a couple of days when i'll have the
opportunity to say "criminally out of print."

whatever happened to that mbv box set that was supposed to
have tracks from an unreleased album?


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-11 13:20 [#01897032]
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I thought they were getting back together to finish the
Glider album, but.. lazy bastards, really.


 

online belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2006-05-11 13:27 [#01897037]
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Whatever happened about that box set they were supposed to
be putting out? Fell off the radar, or have i just not been
keeping up?


 

offline stefano_azevedo from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2006-05-11 13:28 [#01897038]
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Terminator, Terminator 2, Terminator 3, and that one as a
pregnant man.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2006-05-11 13:33 [#01897042]
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very good question...


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2006-05-11 13:43 [#01897049]
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Meh, fuck knows:

"Box Set details surface
UPDATE: the box set is not happening right now. i will post
more details soon. i've know about this for a while but i
still get mails about this. "

That's the last post on mybloodyvalentine.net

Do you guys have the song they did for the Wire tribute
album? I think its in competition for my favourite track of
theirs, for sure... best cover ever.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2006-05-11 13:52 [#01897050]
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It is a great cover. And I like their version of We've got
all the time in the world, too.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2006-05-16 03:10 [#01899528]
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What about the influnce of Dinosaur Jr? Kevin Sheilds once
said that his favorite guitarists were Jimi Hendrix and J.
Mascis. You can definately hear it, although Dino were a
little bit more "classic rock" put through a punk mangle
whereas MBV were less "riffy".


 


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