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What the fuck have dinosaur jr got to do with shoe-gazing? |
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They were an influence on MBV, anyway. |
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where did you find that so quicly man? yes i understand i just said that"almost" all the time not every time. in this is one of the "other times" NEVER @ OLD! |
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MBV were a fucking no-hoper goth band until Kevin Shields took control of them. Seen them twice. You made me realise had to be heard to be believed. So don't fucking try and talk to me about MBV. |
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The facts stand. |
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WTF? Calm! |
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hey, i'm wondering if maybe you'd like to get together and talk about my bloody valentine. |
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:|D |
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forgot to mention the red Red House Painters self-titled album... its necessary to specify because there are two different self-titled ones... this is the earlier one. was listening to Pale Saints the other day, very good stuff, i'm sorry i didn't hear it earlier. way to go 4AD. |
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i love that album. |
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Listened to Spooky in the bath yesterday, lovely. |
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i remember getting pissed at swears....in this thread or in another.. but hey, MBV = goth ? are you alright ? |
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in their early days, yes. |
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Just listening to Ride's 1990 album "Nowhere". What's original and great about it is the fact they're not really technically good musicians, and Andy Bell is a pretty weak singer, but they still aspire to these great big epic songs. Sometimes the album even verges on prog! It's like psychedelia ambition with punk rock "skills". And I don't really even listen to much guitar music anymore. |
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have you heard their early records, when they had a totally different singer? maybe they even had two before kevin shields, can't remember. i thought they were more a sort of stylized rockabilly sort of band, though. |
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Jesu Jesu Jesu!!!!! |
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If you chezch out the always awesome today there's a link to the demos of Slowdive's "Pygmalion", which I am just going through and they're well tasty. |
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ok, i will........ d/ling |
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two more criminally out of print albums: "raise" and "mezcal head" by swervedriver. thanks for the slowdive links, d_b! |
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i've got a ton of unreleased slowdive material, but the sound quality is unlistenably poor, like a cassette that was copied three or four times. maybe a notch or two worse than the pygmalion demos. has anyone heard locust's remix of "shine"? that's worth seeking out, it was used on a soundtrack for a film called "splendor" i think... |
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I am downloading Slowdive's "Just for a day" at 68K/s!! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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stone roses ? i love them any way |
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Most overated band of all time. |
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Hot Band of the Moment, asobi seksu, are rawesome shoegaze. i prefer their self-titled album to citrus as i find it's louder and catchier. 'sooner' is a terrific song. |
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You chose 'optimus prime' as your name!? |
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aye. |
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Haha! or, you poor thing! |
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this thread needs more pale saints "the comforts of madness" is the best album of it's era by a mile also slowdive ripped off their sound from the kitchens of distinction check out "the 3rd time we opened the capsule" / "quick as rainbows" / " elephantine"....ride's nowhere was a let down after the 1st 3 eps also edsel auctioneer pissed on everybody with the gutted ep (91?) and LOOP totally own spacemen3 that is all |
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I saw Kitchens of Distinction live about 1,000,000 times. Great band. I did think, some years later, they owed a little bit to The Chameleons. I remembered The Telescopes the other day, are they in this thread? I'm not looking. "Perfect Needle"... "SHC Burn" lovely. Totally agree about Loop. Spacemen 3 a bunch of druggy throwbacks, Loop.. monolithic slave lords of the fucking epic riff. Awesome. |
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1988... The best year for alternative music... AND The Summer of Love *weeps gently* |
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i love pale saints, but they went completely downhill after ian masters quit. they also got slagged for sounding too much like the boo radleys. i think the boo radleys "everything's alright forever" is one of the best of that era, along with "comforts of madness." slowdive ripped off kitchens of distinction? i don't think so, and dog_belch is absolutely right that kod owes a debt to the chameleons. but at least you didn't pull out that hoary criticism about slowdive ripping off my bloody valentine. you can see where slowdive's sound evolved from the sarah records single "breathe," recorded under the name eternal (wasn't the complete slowdive lineup btw). i pulled out some loop a few weeks back, it sounds pretty dated and cheesy to me at this point. spacemen 3's cover of mudhoney's "when tomorrow hits" still sounds massive. to each their own... |
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What Loop did you air? To be fair the first two albums sound a bit sparse now, I think they were more punishing live at the time (I saw them a few times from "Fade Out" until they actually did fade out), but the last album "Gilded Eternity" sounds more... robust. At their final gig, when they were playing, I believe "From Centre to Wave", one of the guitars got unplugged, whoever was playing the more flangy stuff over the top, and it was just down to the more rhythmical elements... and it sounded like the best bit of futuristic rock ever perfomed. Then back in came the flanging and off you go. My Uncalled for Top 10 Loop Tracks Arc-Lite (Sonar) Collision Breathe into me Head On Shot with a Diamond Black Sun This is where you end Mother Sky Sunburst 16 Dreams |
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i've tried out the first two Pale Saints albums recently and i think i actually prefer In Ribbons. in fairness i think its because i'm looking for a very specific sort of mood/feel and Comforts seems a lot more diverse/difficult to pigeonhole... i should probably try again a couple months down the line... as it stands though, Shell is my jam... this thread rules, by the by... keep 'em coming. |
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fucking hell! i completely forgot about about "a gilded eternity," and i would have said that's their best record. that one has definitely stood the test of time. the track i spun was "soundhead," maybe i was too harsh, it's ok. |
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if you like the lofi mbv/early telescopes sound check the track "peardrops" by this band, it's great, sticks in your head. low quality mp3, tho. i still like moose as well, their first three singles still sound great, also criminally out of print. i just spun a couple telescopes singles too, "everso" and "celeste", both still sound great. i think their first album was recently reissued. also worth checking out, a.r.kane's first 3 or four singles and their first album. |
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a.r. kane are a band I've been meaning to check out for roughly the past 20 years. I always think it's wise to hold some bands in reserve for fallow periods (like now, to be honest). I've only got one Rudy Tambala remix of Bark Psychosis' "Big Shot". Bark Psychosis I don't suppose come under this thread but I'll mention them. And Disco Inferno. "Everso", I forgot about that one, that was great. The second album didn't they thoroughly lose it and go mellow jazz, if I recall. They came back a couple of years ago I believe. Moose, I remember then name but I can't remember a single track, I'll need to rejog the memeroid (which is like a hemorroid, but my brain). Spraydog I will look into. What about Levitation? Again not shoegazery... more.. I don't know.. indie prog? "World Around", "Smile",.. good tracks, fun times. |
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for moose, check the "cool breeze," "reprise" and "jack" ep's. levitation, terry bickers' band after he left house of love. i've still got a few of their releases. they did a few tunes with a shoegazery feel but yeah i'd say indie prog fits the bill. terry bickers did an amazing cover of the velvet underground's "i'm set free," worth tracking down. the first couple bark psychosis singles were great. i'd recommend catherine wheel's first album to anyone interested in this stuff, too. play the track "aruca" by medicine at top volume, it sounds like a mbv-fuelled sandblaster. i do remember the telescopes second album, it was on creation but was as i recall totally unmemorable. still in a rock vein but low key and generic, totally disappointing. haven't heard it since 1995, though. somebody's got to mention a shoegaze era band that sucked, so let me add the drop nineteens to that list. there was a brief heyday where a couple of unworthy imitators got signed, and they were one of them. ok time to get back to work... |
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Debut albums by the two Tchek shoegaze bands The Naked Souls and Ecstacy Of St. Theresa are spinning frequently over at my house at the moment. I've been looking for those albums for years and then: Oink! Brilliant stuff! |
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Ha...I remember this. Was just listening to Souvlaki yesterday, funnily enough. Is that shoegaze? Post shoegaze? I played my mate the first Lush album recently and he was really surprised that it was actually good, 'cause their later britpop stuff was total shite. There's a great cover of Ride's "Vapor Trail" by an American group called Trespassers William that's on my Winamp playlist a lot now too. |
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Lush degenerated badly towards the end, I even think one of the bandmembers hangded himself... But Gala and Spooky are both great albums IMO. I dl'ed 4ad act Swallow's 1992 album "Blow" the other day. It sounds like a cross between My Bloody Valentine and Cocteau Twins with bits and pieces of Lush and even Jesus and the Mary Chain thrown in. Nice... |
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yeah its a shame that lush didnt have more of the greatness that is the first half of Gala. im going to check out swallow. |
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let me take a moment to recommend blonde redhead's album "23," which has some fantastic songs and production. swallow were hampered by weak vocals, but if you like the cocteau twins you might like them. i wish i could locate (um cheaply) a copy of their remix album that had some of their album tracks redone as instrumentals (called "blowback"). i never thought i'd see a shoegaze renaissance... |
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i really miss in the 90s a radio program in detroit, late sunday nights, called Big Sonic Heaven that would play alot of dream pop and shoegaze etc stuff. i miss that. |
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I'm also looking for Blowback.. Give me notice please if you track it down... Now, does anyone have the fantastic Lughnasa album by a band called Chimera? I think it's from ca. mid nineties. They released another album called earth loop, but I have never heard that one. I used to own Lughnasa and I miss it so much... |
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there's a british retailer that has the vinyl of Lughnasa for pretty cheap. search for the title on gemm.com. there's someone on discogs selling earth loop for very cheap, $2 plus shipping. i've only heard one track by chimera from a grass records comp many years ago. |
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http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=224476 here's a copy of "blowback" from someone in france, price 12.5 in euros. i'm too cheap to pay that plus shipping (and the dollar is very weak) but it might be a better deal for norway. |
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Wow, thanks, I'll give it a shot! |
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I found a dl of blowback.. :D |
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dunno now listening to jesus and the mary chain |
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i recommend some caribou. especially live. |
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