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Damn and blast. 3rd disk failure in 5 years. A lot of my own music, mp3s, music software and other warez down the drain. The drive doesn't seem completely knackered; windows picked it up and just thinks it's not formated. Any easy way of getting the data off without losing it? My university has state of the art forensics/data recovery equipment and software and I know how to use it (AccessData Forensics and Encase), but the aggravation of getting access to the labs (they deal with police evidence, so all sorts of rules regarding their use apply) and cost involved make the use of it impractical for this sort of thing. Just wondering if anyone could recommend any free/easily DLable on kazaa hard disk recovery programs that might be of any use? Also, once I've recovered the data, or given up and reformatted it, what sort of reliability do you reckon I'll get with the drive? Will it be safe to use again? I am just glad most of my music making has been done on my laptop the past 6 months and that I took a fairly recent backup of the stuff on the pc to my other HD a few months back. What is perhaps most sickening, is that the last 2 HD failures have been on comparatively new (18 months or thereabouts), fairly expensive, premium brand drives, whereas the cheapo, unbranded and even missing a panel(!) 20gb drive has lasted 5 years+ with no problems. Looks like I'll be buying 2 cheap 100gb drives, with a "poor man's RAID" system of nightly full backups from one to the other in future. |
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You could try and ubuntu live disc and mount it from there. That might well get you onto the disc and able to get the info. Also, freezing a drive and then popping it back into your computer might make it work properly long enough for you to get everything off of there. As for Data Recovery programmes I don't know of any good ones. |
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(warez down the drain, that's a good song title) |
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RE: Freezing, yes I've heard that (actually got the previous crashed drive I've been waiting to try that on) and know people who've done it. I don't think it'll help here as it's almost as if the drive's FAT has been scuppered to make it think it's not formatted, but I will use it as a last resort. I'll look into ubuntu, cheers. |
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I lost 200gb on my ext hardrive. Basically i used a system cleaner program and it screwed the ext drive, i get a 'delay write failure message' when i connect it via firewire it does eventually recognise the drive, but i cannot add files or explore the drive. Is this a similar prob to yourself |
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my bet is you have dodgy power in your place, and you've been using mediocre grade power supplies which have been doing little to prevent it. i'd invest in a high quality power supply, and optionally, a UPS. |
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Hi xf, ta for the advice, but I don't think that's it here... 3 crashes occured in 3 different locations with 3 different PSUs (3 different cases and 3 different mother boards); the "good" HD that has lasted 5 years is the only common component. Any chance this drive (which is always the master, with little other than windows installed on it) could be what's knackering the slaves? Seems unlikely, as the way the drives have failed has been subtley different (1 wouldn't read at all, 1 thought it was unformated, 1 the PC wouldn't detect, etc.) |
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oh right, sorry, i'd assumed it was all at the same location. power issues can often result in strange problems exactly as you describe (to summarise: shit screws up, wierd stuff happens); sure, it could be the hard drive, but i'd find that incredibly unlikely. what model/brand of hard drives are they? what brand/rating is your current power supply? have you noticed anything else wierd on your computer, such as the computer/mouse freezing up occasionally (and the hard drive making odd clicking noises)? |
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slight correction, "sure, it could be the hard drive" should read "sure, it could be that 'good' HD causing the issues". it's obvious the hard drives that are dying in the ass are the problem (dur), but it's working out why - getting three duds in a row usually suggests something else is wrong. |
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what brands? |
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ouch!!! that's why i save everything on cd's... hope you'll sort it out. :) |
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cd-r's have the tendency to deteriorate within 6 years. |
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haha yeah!!! that's true... i better find some other safer way by then... :) |
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floppy disk is the answer!!!!!!! : ) YAAAAY |
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it's lol because it's true.. |
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There's a forensic tool called x-ways winhex that might let you recover data. It reads data from "unallocated" space (the space windows mistakenly thinks is unformatted). |
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First one, I have no record of/can't remember. Second one was a Seagate Barracuda, third one was an IBM or something equally prestigious (haven't opened the case yet). |
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an IBM deathstar? :-) |
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You can buy 50 year archival ones, but they cost £££s compared to normal ones. |
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stick to seagate, and backup only essentials at least once a month onto another hard drive or dvdrs. with dvdrs.. well, they may eventually decay and become unreadable but by that time you won't want to restore anything you've backed up on them anyway, and technology would've moved onto other larger systems and no doubt other methods of data storage and retrieval. |
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I had thought/heard Seagate were as near-perfect as you could get and advised other people the same until I had my previous mysterious HD crash with one. It was barely 18 months old and the disk wasn't exactly thrashed (was only defragged every few months, only connected to P2P for maybe 6 months of that time). Do you really think it was just a one off and I should go back to them? What you say with DVDrs is fair comment- something new will have come out that I'll of copied them to by the time they decay, if I still value the data (just like my CDs have largely been copied to CD). |
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disk crashes can happen for all sorts of reasons regardless of the make. yes, i would reccomend you go back to them. |
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You can 'purchase' a great little program called Spinrite. If this program can't fix it, nothing can. It's like the ULTIMATE BEAST of disc recovery despite the fact like only 400Kb. |
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I recently had an external USB2 drive go up in smoke and I spent the better part (ie all) of a 6 days letting spinrite try to recover it and it failed. Spinrite is pretty damn good, but tries to fix dodgy drives rather than recover files and transfer them. I used in the end and that worked a charm (albeit a slow one). Like Spinrite it installs onto a floppy disk (with room to spare for configs and a few logs) and will recover files off onto another drive. (it'll recover NTFS or FAT formatted drives but only recover files onto FAT formatted drives) |
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I can furnish Mr JC with a copy of said item given the word and an email address. |
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Frickin' A. If you could contact me with further details, I'd be delighted to hear from you at the email address in my profile. Cheers, Ceri |
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You can tell it's past my bedtime and I'm still tired from my holiday, as I'm signing posts, "Cheers, Ceri" as if it's an email. Righto, I'm off to bed. Goodnight everybody. Cheers, Ceri. |
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David's Ultimate Boot CD Trust me, this thing is the best one out there 4 in 1: Hiren's 7.9 UBCD 3.4 Mini-PE 2K5.09.03 DOS 7.10 Boot |
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My external HD went AWOL a week ago. LaCie's website tech support told me some good stuff to try, but the only program that thinks it can get any data off there is one that needs to copy it all onto another drive, so I suppose I'll be buying another one. |
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