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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-23 10:15 [#01865880]
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Specs
The "***" is a monophonic analog synthesizer, with 100 user editable presets.
Synth Engine: Sound Sources are two ultra-stable analog VCOs. Parameters for the VCOs are:
- Osc. 1 Octave: 16¡¦, 8¡¦, 4¡¦, 2¡¦ - Osc. 1 Wave: Continuously variable from triangle through saw and square to skinny pulse.
- Osc. 1 Level - Glide Rate - Osc. 1„³ 2 Sync On/Off - Osc. 2 Frequency - Osc. 2 Octave: 16¡¦, 8¡¦, 4¡¦, 2¡¦ - Osc. 2 Wave: Continuously variable from triangle through saw and square to skinny pulse.
- Osc. 2 Level - Fine Tune (for both Oscillators, located at the bottom left of the panel)
Sound Modifiers include a single VCLPF: 24 dB /Oct Moog Ladder filter, with filter Overload control and a single Output VCA. Filter parameters are:
Cutoff Resonance Kb. Control Amount (how much the Key CV modulates the Filter)
Filter Env. Amount (how much +/- the filter envelope modulates the filter)
Overload An Envelope Generator section provides two ADSR EGRs: one to modulate the Filter (Filter EGR) and one to modulate the VCA (Volume EGR). For each EGR, the parameters are:
Attack Decay Sustain Release
The Modulation section contains a 4-waveform LFO, and a 1x1 Mod Buss with 6 possible mod sources and 4 possible destinations. Its parameters are:
LFO Rate Mod Source: (LFO triangle, LFO square, LFO sawtooth, LFO ramp, Filt. EGR, and Osc. 2
Mod Amount (the amount of modulation w/ the mod wheel all the way forward)
Mod Destination (Pitch, Osc. 2, Filter, Wave)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-23 10:16 [#01865881]
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Rumored MSRP
$1475
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2006-03-23 10:17 [#01865882]
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Yup
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-23 10:30 [#01865888]
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buy me one
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-23 10:39 [#01865894]
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As far as I am concerned, I didn't feel $3000us was worth it for the moog sound, but $1500 is.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-23 10:39 [#01865895]
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YOU buy me one
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-03-23 13:28 [#01865972]
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I don't completely understand the hardware implementation of the ladder filter - in Reaktor you can use just the 2 pole output, or a mix of 2 and 3 pole, for example, and modulate the cutoff and resonance separately. In a hardware moog, can you also do that?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-23 13:48 [#01865980]
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Not sure. With todays technology, you can pretty much do everything you can with hardware than you can with software. It just gets more expensive/time + space consuming.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-23 15:04 [#01866022]
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I don't think software will ever replace hardware synths. There will always be people claiming it doesn't sound the same. Even when it does.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-23 16:00 [#01866055]
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I bought your MOM one, ohhhhhhhhh!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2006-03-23 16:15 [#01866082]
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so yeah that's lots of money
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Quoth
from Sweden on 2006-03-23 16:17 [#01866088]
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i want a synthesizer that is built into my mind... nano technology synthesis... that would be the shit
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-24 00:27 [#01866329]
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Price: Aw Synth: Nice
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-24 01:31 [#01866343]
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Thats ok. I was going to buy it from, but then she told me your mom has a cock, so I gave up.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-24 01:31 [#01866344]
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zing
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-24 01:33 [#01866345]
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That's more expensive than I was expecting. Not quite the Moog synth for everyone then...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-24 01:36 [#01866347]
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Well, comparitively. Aparently it has endless knobs, with 15 LEDs around them to show where the knobs are positioned. Thats about as sexy as it comes.
You see, when you buy one of these moogs, you are buying a lifetime of SEX. Seeing as some people are willing to pay $300 for an hour of sex, $1500 for a lifetime is quite a bargain.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-24 05:07 [#01866422]
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I would only get an old moog. The vintage appeal is strong for me.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2006-03-24 06:18 [#01866464]
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hardware is like...so 80s
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-24 07:12 [#01866494]
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It could have 50 LEDS round it for all I care. I'll wiat until I've heard it before I get too excited. That siad, I am excited.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-24 17:57 [#01866981]
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Yeah. Well, I am definately not sold on the moog sound as much as some people. The voyager costs as much as an andromeda, which is a polysynth with more modulation options than just about anything else out there.
But there is also the quality that goes behind moog synthesizers. I have never heard anybody complain about something not working on their voyager, or anything else about them for that matter. When you look at some $1000 and $2000 pieces of gear that I hear constant complaints about, I think the extra money is partly for piece of mind, and reputation. That being said, the evolver is at least as much of a synthesizer if not more than the voyager, and its a sixth of the price. As well, the akai mpc line of samplers is probly one of the most problematic of hardware gear, and I still swear by my MPC1k.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2006-03-24 18:18 [#01866988]
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the mpc 1000 is the most intuitive.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2006-03-24 18:21 [#01866990]
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I've heard bad things about the Andromeda - the envelopes aren't so hot, the sound is cold, the OS is buggy, there isn't enough horsepower in it to process the routings and effects and so on...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-24 19:21 [#01866994]
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Yeah, I have heard a couple bad things too. Not about the sound being cold, but the OS being somewhat buggy. Although all the examples I could find were for things that most people including myself won't use.
Some people are so particular over their envelopes. A lot of people complain about the envelopes on the evolver too. I think they are fine.
Personally, I think its people paying a lot of money for something that they ended up not liking, so they went out and found a bunch of little things to complain about. The fact that its by alesis doesn't win it any points either.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-24 21:54 [#01867006]
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dude, if I've said it once I've said it a million times: never let my mother's penis cum between you and your dreams.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-24 22:47 [#01867011]
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Well, if she wasn't so pushy with it...
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-24 23:13 [#01867012]
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I have an mks-80. Which has the best bass.. It doesn't sound buzzy like moogs. More Fm'sh and chewy. Can't be beat.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-24 23:41 [#01867013]
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got my sh5 today. Its sweet.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-25 00:19 [#01867015]
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Well, if Alesis managed the Ion to sound huge then the Andromeda should have a massive sound.
And the Ion's OS is buggy, but it's also hilarious, lol
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-25 00:29 [#01867021]
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hilarious?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-25 00:29 [#01867022]
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You really like those roland analogues don't you?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-25 05:06 [#01867076]
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I was debating whether to get the sh5 or an odyessey. Everyone that used both said to get an sh5. I have no interest in new synths. I want to get an old prophet sampler next and a tape delay a 909 an 808. I don't need any more synths for now. Well, maybe a 101. I giess I do like the rolands. Can't afford the ems's and moogs.
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sean qunt
from BELFAST on 2006-03-25 06:05 [#01867083]
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ok
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-25 11:08 [#01867137]
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Hmmm. Well, the prophet 2000 goes for about $150 lately that I have seen. It looks really nice. Personally, I find a lot fo the classic synthesizers to problematic and non-midi compatible, but eventually I am going to get bored of really expensive VA and start collecing the old analog mono and polys.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2006-03-25 12:10 [#01867171]
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which reminds me, have you heard my mothers new release under her TrannyPusher moniker? 10 delicious tracks of chick-with-dick electronica.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-25 12:12 [#01867172]
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Yes. It makes me want to get breast implants. But thats something totally not for this site.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-25 20:52 [#01867340]
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CVto midi converter or a sequencer like a mobius work. It's always a risk that old analogues can break. Thats the risk you take.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2006-03-25 20:53 [#01867341]
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Oh, I want the prophet 3000. I have them lined up, just need the money.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2006-03-25 21:52 [#01867350]
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Yeah. Or even a bass station (which I eventually want to get anyway).
I found someone who builds synthesizers. I am going to be looking into having him build one for me. I want to design the interface. |)
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2006-03-26 01:00 [#01867374]
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it's funny when it goes wrong.
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