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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 15:16 [#01844810]
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12 years, 9 albums (counting ep 7), 11 ep's, shitloads of remixes and livesets behind us now. what can i say?
i can say thta i'm heavily impressed. i always liked autechre and their music but i couldn't really understand what it is all about.
until now - i listened to all their music again and everything started to fit. - even chiastic slide and ep7 (which i have heard the first time this week) fitted into the puzzle.
autechre created something that i would call "micro-music" what's that all about?
lets say that autechre music is a picture, or lets say better - a monument, something physical.
incunabula remind me of looking at this monument through a camera from quite a distance.
every next album is like using the zoom in your camera. i'm talking about amber and tri repetae.
then, you start to get very close - that's when envane pops in. you are standing near the monument, you can clearly see what it's all about and you see the whole structure.
then chiastic slide pops in with a big "bang". you start to look very closely with your eyes on the monument. you can see the material, the facture.
lp5 is a bit scarred - like autechre - the observers (autechre) made a step back to once more look at the monument from a wider distance to be sure they now what it's all about.
ep7 is your magnifying glass. you look through it and you see more and more details. you can see the complex structure of the surface. it's a bit old and it has scratches on it.
but ae cannot get enough. they have to now the deeper part of it.
confield is your microscope. we are getting into microscale now. you start to see the material of the monument, what it consists of.
gantz graf is just a perfect continuation of this proces. the are astonished. so many things to see. they get addicted to it.
draft is the microscope again, but ae change the magnification rate to a higher one. and more and more elements are visible. something nobody could expect looking from the outside at this monu
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oyvinto
on 2006-02-19 15:17 [#01844813]
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ok
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 15:18 [#01844814]
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but you can still see elements of the things you saw through your magnifying glass,
the less deep parts.
untilted is nanotechnology. it's your electron-microscope. you see atoms.
you see millions of small elements that together create the whole monument.
you can hear the physical bonds between them. even more. you see chemical
and physical reactions that hold the whole monument in one piece.
so there is still plenty of room. there is still piko, femto... there is so
much room to discover.
their music is so much more than i expected. i always thought about the
"more inteligent" releases: yeah cool, random arepgiated synths and beats
with a shitloads of vst's and dsp stuff - nothing more. and i really didn't understand
confield. but the whole thing with this "micro-music" makes so much sense!
richard devine is "micro-music" too. but devine is asking "how?". autechre is asking "why?"
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 15:19 [#01844815]
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yes
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 15:20 [#01844816]
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ey what the fuck ?? "YOUR MESSAGE IS BEING RESIZED" ey what bollocks is that...
yeah okay. i'm curious if anyone actually reads the whole thing...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 15:21 [#01844819]
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who is sean then ?
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 15:22 [#01844820]
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 15:23 [#01844825]
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its a nice big up to autechre
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Archrival
on 2006-02-19 15:23 [#01844826]
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yup
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2006-02-19 15:25 [#01844830]
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Where does the poo go?
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oyvinto
on 2006-02-19 15:27 [#01844831]
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good question
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 15:27 [#01844832]
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dont tell me you dont know that,come on
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 15:28 [#01844835]
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i would love to see that one on the cover for their next album :D hilarious.
okay now someone surely just launched photoshop starting to cut out their faces from different pictures and inserting them into this one
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2006-02-19 15:30 [#01844838]
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Erm...
Sadist: it's a real cartoon. I think, i hope that it is otherwise what the hell is it?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 15:34 [#01844844]
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i'm afraid to ask
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 15:49 [#01844869]
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lets talk about eurotechno then. just to not let this topic die - would be a waste don;t you think ?
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 15:52 [#01844873]
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ey come on i wrote that about one hour! i love autechre
so many wankers can now prudly say - "the best artist in my opinion is autechre" and not be laughed out.
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2006-02-19 15:53 [#01844875]
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It's Catdog from Nickelodeon! Another Laurel & Hardy clone really.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2006-02-19 15:54 [#01844876]
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"i always liked autechre and their music but i couldn't really understand what it is all about. "
i would say that is pretty much a common thing on this mb :)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2006-02-19 15:55 [#01844878]
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you are retarded
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-02-19 15:57 [#01844882]
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yes, thank you sadist, for making this world again safe for us autechre fans.
unfortunately, imo your essay is complete bs. they make music, sometimes its good, others is smacks of laziness. you decide which is which.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 16:02 [#01844887]
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not really - not on that level of progression
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 16:03 [#01844889]
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i like autechre and i think that they are good
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 16:04 [#01844891]
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I like autechre and I would happily have a chat with them about egg custard.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 16:06 [#01844893]
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i think they are well fit
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-02-19 16:09 [#01844897]
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wait, im confused, which part of my post are you dissagreeing with?
that they make music? or that you decide wether its good or not? or that you dont think my opinion is that ur essay is bullshit?
im not being inflamatory here, just desiring a bit of clarification.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 16:14 [#01844902]
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of course - telling you asap.
i'm disagreeing what you said about "smacks of laziness".
my essay might be complete bullshit though.
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nacmat
on 2006-02-19 16:19 [#01844907]
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yes, autechre are one of the important names I guesslots of artists now look at them to see and learn
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-02-19 16:19 [#01844908]
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their only release i really consider to be lazy is untilted really.
ive listened to it on headphones, on a big ass 500 watt 4 speaker stereo, stoned, sober, drunk. just does seem like they put any effort into it. each release up to draft feels like they were really pushing themselves to make something interesting that didnt conform to many preconcieved notions of composition (which is the reason i think people think theyre some kind of super group).
untilted just bored me. fuck, even the lame is lazy.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-02-19 16:20 [#01844910]
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"even the lame ^title^ is lazy"
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2006-02-19 16:21 [#01844913]
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You hate is so much you rate lame instead of name
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2006-02-19 16:21 [#01844916]
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rate = said
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nacmat
on 2006-02-19 16:22 [#01844918]
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I like untilted quite a lot
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 16:23 [#01844919]
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as i said it's not about the composition really but it's about the thoughts behind it.
i may be wrong - but it sounds clear to me.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 16:23 [#01844921]
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I've got to disagree there. Untilted is a fucking awesome album.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 16:24 [#01844922]
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is = it
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-02-19 16:28 [#01844925]
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we're just swimmin in the typos eh?
what, autechre gets us all so giddy that we cant even bother to reread our posts before we hit the reply button?
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 16:29 [#01844927]
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its a great album,AEs best work.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 16:30 [#01844928]
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berk
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 16:35 [#01844934]
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most mature
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 16:46 [#01844941]
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I haven't heard everything yet but when I do I'll come back and say if I agree :P
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2006-02-19 16:49 [#01844944]
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it's worth it
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oyvinto
on 2006-02-19 16:59 [#01844952]
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i like to listen to them
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-02-19 17:06 [#01844956]
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^ one of the most intelligent posts in this thread.
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oyvinto
on 2006-02-19 17:09 [#01844959]
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indeed
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2006-02-19 17:13 [#01844961]
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i have discounted suicide in favour of killing everyone else in the world instead
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Rostasky
from United States on 2006-02-19 18:13 [#01844987]
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I like deep threads like this.
Makes me want to go out and buy more autechre.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2006-02-19 19:24 [#01845008]
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yeah autechre, it's not really like normal music and it's not really the same as listening to normal music. like i can't do shit with autechre just running in the backround, you have to listen really hard. And you still might not get it. Something like confield or draft may take 100 listens to even get a close grasp on. Love untilted btw
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2006-02-19 22:44 [#01845040]
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IV VV IV VV VIII is amazing. Just wanted to say that in an autechre thread. Always liked it, never knew why, it just fit into its own style. It had its own rhythem and melody and beats. Today it all came together when I was listening to it. Forming and reformed fragmented sounds that whoosh in and out of aural existence. The two explosions at the end are fantastic. Best ae song (atm) (imo) (lol)
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2006-02-19 23:10 [#01845045]
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blah! this is what im annoyed with!
autechre is "normal" music. theres nothing transcendant about sean and rob, theyre just two guys with an interesting take on hip hop.
read some interviews, they scoff at this bullshit about it being something beyond what other music is.
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