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offline Whitman from Denver (United States) on 2005-11-27 21:30 [#01788640]
Points: 3 Status: Regular



I am more or less new to laptop/glitch/idm. Before I ask my
question, I want to say right away that I have exposed
myself to all of the popular artists e.g. Boards, Aphex,
Squarepush, etc. In addition, I know pretty well Data'chi,
Nob. Takemura, Soul Oddity.
I like Autechre the most. As far as I know, I have greedily
collected everything they have ever released and all the
remixes and side projects I've heard about. Unlike a lot of
other people I have talked to, I personally think everything
after Tri Rep. is better than anything before (I do like the
early stuff though) and I love very much the albums that
seem to be the most in dispute (Confield, Draft, Untilted,
etc.) I don't understand why all my other friends don't like
them: I enjoyed Autechre immediately: I love their
combination of technical virtuosity, strange, alien timbres,
sonic manipulatio, intricate beats, etc. They seem to me to
have a better command of their equipment then anyone else I
have heard so far. I'm looking for other artists to discover
that have similar qualities to Autechre, but I haven't
really been happy with the search thus far. For instance,
Data'chi is really good, (and maybe I don't understand) but
when i listen to him, he is amazing but most of the emphasis
seems to be placed on spliced, intricate beat work and
percussive sounds rather than the other tones, pads, and
washes(it's hard to really pin down). Eg, Autechre seems
consistently to move the ear between various elements more
e.g. beats, pads, washes, etc. (fyi-I'm not complaining
about melody) It's stylistic preference, but Autechre seems
to choose to aim for what seems to be a balance between
percussive/beat manipulation and other elements to aim for
more of an even soundscape. The people who I have researched
who are supposed to be good at similar things seem more beat
heavy (eg data'chi-elements & mmale/ffem). OV Schriach so
far seems the most versatile and similar. Any suggestions of
similar Autechre style artists? I'm sorry if it sounds like
i just want


 

offline Whitman from Denver (United States) on 2005-11-27 21:31 [#01788641]
Points: 3 Status: Regular



Sorry if it sounds like Im just asking for Autechre with a
different name.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-27 21:32 [#01788642]
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hello. you could try "brownout" by Phoenecia.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-11-27 21:32 [#01788643]
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forget it.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-27 21:34 [#01788644]
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I hope you're not, what would be the point?

this Phoenecia album doesn't sound a lot like Autechre, more
like a Phoenecia album (har har) but it does kind of fall
into the "a balance between percussive/beat manipulation
and other elements to aim for more of an even
soundscape"
category you describe.


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-11-27 21:38 [#01788646]
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this release doesn't compare to any ae.

check out the freeform's a.t. reinterpretations instead


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-27 21:41 [#01788647]
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you're paying attention then - that is exactly what I said.

it does however pertain to the statement "a balance
between percussive/beat manipulation and other elements to
aim for more of an even soundscape"
.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-11-27 21:43 [#01788648]
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Television - Marquee Moon


 

offline paolo_p from behind on 2005-11-27 22:11 [#01788666]
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hey manmaybe you should use pandora

its pretty cool...

welcome to excellent tronic by the way


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-27 23:44 [#01788673]
Points: 21454 Status: Regular



You want advice?
YOU WANT ADVICE??

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE ADVICE!


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2005-11-27 23:49 [#01788674]
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Richard Devine to me is the closest of all to Autechre, but
with a loud crunchy backbeat... Lipswitch is a good place to
start...

Crunch is kinda the same territory, but warmer

Some consider early Funkstorung Autechre inspired, but their
later stuff is a lot more organic using real intruments,
singers, rappers, soul phrasing and such

Arovane? Maybe


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-27 23:52 [#01788675]
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"I have exposed myself to all the popular artists"
Perverted exhibitionist.

You should get "crunch - "1"", the album with 'toe tac tic'
on it. Download soulseek (slsk.org) and then use it to
download toe tac tic or any of these other examples (it's be
good to try qrter's 'brownout' suggestion just so you can
see for yourself what a terrible suggestion that was). Also
try "telefon tel aviv" but only the very first 3 track of
their main album, forget what it's called. Also otto von
schirach's 8000 bc.

These are all the most tech-wizardry sounding. They are like
"special effects" except with sound. aphex and autechre are
already givens.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2005-11-28 00:00 [#01788677]
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thanks again for introducing Crunch to me all those years
ago W...

Also the last Venetian Snares- Huge Chrome Cylinder Box Unfolding is incredibly Autechrerish
(right down to the cover which is a bit of a riff on Draft)
but he is such a chameleon I wont go the bank on the rest of
his stuff for those abstract alien soundscapes


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-28 00:09 [#01788681]
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It's my duty to give the 'crunch is good' meme as much
replication as the 'qrter is gay' meme. I'm currently
working on mass email spamming and google page ranking
schemes for both.


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2005-11-28 00:13 [#01788683]
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right


 

offline QRDL from Poland on 2005-11-28 00:24 [#01788691]
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I would suggest Alva Noto - Transspray. I always considered
it the most autechrish of Nicolai's work. Although it's not
so rich.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-11-28 00:26 [#01788693]
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I think richard devine and phoenicia are better than
autechre. And you already mentioned listening to soul
oddity, which is phoenicias old music. Also listen to
einoma.


 

offline Sire from the depths (Finland) on 2005-11-28 02:02 [#01788704]
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Completely different in style, but similar to Autechre in
complexity and not too heavily relying on beats: Low Res -
Approximate Love Boat (Plug Research)

One of my all time favourite albums! Highly recommended!


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-11-28 02:25 [#01788712]
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ive been unsuccesful in finding anything very similar to ae,
man.

_the_ closest thing is lipswitch by RD


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-11-28 02:31 [#01788714]
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and hell, that CD is still far off ...

i really have no concept at this point of anyone else doing
something like dial or cap.iv or reniform puls


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-28 02:37 [#01788715]
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I personally think everything
after Tri Rep. is better than anything before (I do like
the
early stuff though) and I love very much the albums that
seem to be the most in dispute (Confield, Draft, Untilted,
etc.)


Hello Whitman. I agree with that. I don't think it's good to
search for ~copies of autechre. they're quite unique. you
wrote "similar" but perhaps you're during the amazement
phase of an autechre enthusiast and want more and more.
maybe try Gescom instead. not that similar but...the sipirit
is there, you know ;]


 

offline cygnus from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-11-28 02:42 [#01788717]
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yeah definitely check out all the gescom you can get


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-28 02:56 [#01788719]
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more about autechre in this thread : LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-28 04:32 [#01788754]
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I'm gay


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-28 04:32 [#01788755]
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and proud


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2005-11-28 04:37 [#01788757]
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you shat in the thread :/

I agree with taxidermist that richard devine and phoenicia
are better than autechre, but Squarepusher is better than
all se7en.


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-11-28 04:39 [#01788759]
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no, you're an unfunny and n00by g**


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2005-11-28 04:42 [#01788761]
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yup you got that spot on, Xeron is the new Tridenti!


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-28 04:42 [#01788762]
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finally somebody replies in this hell-hole


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-28 04:46 [#01788764]
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no, im the new obara


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2005-11-28 04:50 [#01788768]
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Whitman = newbie
Xeron = n00by
corrupted_girl = boobie x2
obara = boobie x 3
tridenti = MC squaredpusher cunt.


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2005-11-28 04:51 [#01788770]
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deleriousweasel = not funny on this occasion -_-


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-11-28 05:13 [#01788793]
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once put into words you lose the magic of ae that's why you
can link brownout to that piece of text, but that text
oesn't mean what it's supposed to...

i'm so smart, that's why


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-11-28 05:14 [#01788797]
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woooooooooooooooooooooooo

let's celebrate!


 

offline Whitman from Denver (United States) on 2005-11-28 14:06 [#01789263]
Points: 3 Status: Regular



Thank you for the suggestions and help. I would have
explained myself less poorly but the size constraints forced
me to sort of rush it. Obara nailed me on the head: I have
enough objectivity to realize I'm in the "amazement phase of
a [new] autechre enthusiast and want more and more". I don't
want to pawn off my responsibilities to do my own research
on anyone here; I look around where i can and do some
research but I don't know anyone else who likes this stuff
and can help. I'm amazed by what some of these guys can do
sonically, esp. ae. Thanks again.


 

offline big from lsg on 2005-11-28 15:30 [#01789334]
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you're ok as far as noobies go


 


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