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That cheap but good hifi amp...?
 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 14:05 [#01778743]
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Hi, can't remember much about it, other than its quite
small and is supposed to give more expensive amps a run for
their money... does anyone know what I'm talking about? I
can't remember the name for shit, and I'm looking for
something decent.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 14:59 [#01778767]
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giginger, do you remember?


 

offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:07 [#01778770]
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Just go down Richer Sounds and spend as much as you can
afford. You can't really go wrong with their prices.....

LOOK HERE, INNIT


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:12 [#01778774]
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Yeah I have one at the moment from Richer Sounds, its okay,
but I think its far too powerful for my bedroom, so I'm
looking to downgrade so to speak.

I've found the thread I was looking for though.

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:16 [#01778778]
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?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:19 [#01778780]
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bitch :P


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-15 15:22 [#01778781]
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poor boy. have a lolly


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offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:23 [#01778782]
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I'll have that on the plane back to Rome.


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-11-15 15:24 [#01778783]
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oh yeah, how was your weekend?


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:25 [#01778784]
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So did you ever get this bad boy GG? It looks excellent.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 15:26 [#01778785]
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Not bad mate. I'll post some pics soon :)

Clint: I didn't because it was sold out when I went to order
it :(

I'll hopefully get one soon.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-15 15:58 [#01778800]
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After having used mine for around 60 hours now, I can
re-iterate that it is bloody brilliant for the price. All
CDs get played on it and tomorrow the turntables will be
hooked up too.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 16:03 [#01778804]
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I am so tempted to sell my £140 huge ass amp for one of
these... I never turn it up past 1/4. The only thing is, I
enjoy headphone listening, but maybe I could get a seperate
headphone amp. Ooooh Ceri you get me all hot and excited.
What speakers do you use man?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-15 16:19 [#01778828]
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"What speakers do you use man?"

Really crap battered ones (can't remember the brand, but I'd
never heard of them before I bought them for £10 in a pawn
shop). What is insane is that the sound quality is still
great, even with them as the obvious bottleneck in the
signal chain. I'm wondering what it'll be like with a decent
pair of 4 ohm speakers on it...

Re: Headphone listening. I've been reading about people
modding T-amps (putting decent sized gold connectors in,
better volume control, etc) and depending on how handy you
are with a soldering iron, you might be able to put a
headphone connector on one. Also, what's the reasoning
behind your listening to headphones rather than speakers? I
used to a lot, but the main reasons were sound quality and
not annoying flatmates. As the sound quality on these is so
good, you don't need it up very loud to hear everything and
it isn't one of those systems where the sound really
penetrates too powerfully through walls etc. (so it sounds
like a LP filter downstairs)

The drive of an amp like this (and part of the reason I like
the Bose home stuff so much for the price) is ideal for a
home environment. There is no point in having an amp you
only turn up to 1.5/10 (and it won't sound good either -
most amps sound best when they're actually being used a fair
way past 50%), apart from once or twice to show friends what
it can do. Most proper audiophile systems are listened to at
similar volumes to those the T-amp can put out without
distorting. I'm aiming to get new speakers for the t-amp
then relegate my old system (which, like yours, is too loud
for the house really and it's mono- should really be used in
small pubs etc.) to just for use for parties/gigging.

I just laugh when people have 3KW rigs in their house, as I
know they will never ever hear them at their best, unless it
is shortly followed by the police kicking the door down and
conviscating it.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-15 16:21 [#01778831]
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I'd advise against that if all he wants is home listening.
Sure, go there for the speakers, but this £20 amp sounds
better than my mate's £300 Marantz one.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 16:48 [#01778863]
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Nice post man, very grateful indeed. I agree very much about
not getting the best from a louder system, at low volumes I
feel this amp is not far different from the soundcard and pc
speakers that it replaced. It sounds beefier and bassier at
higher volumes, but as you say, this is totally unpractical
for 98% of listening. I don't use the remote or the
treble/bass, I guess the two things I'd miss would be the
headphones socket and the input selector. I enjoy headphone
listening as I live in quite a busy area so traffic often
interferes with speaker listening, but mostly because I
listen quite late at night when my family are asleep. I'm
looking into getting a small headphone amp with a 'audio
thru' channel if you will, ie it relays the input to an
external amp as well as to the headphones. Whether this
exists or not, I don't know, but its not an issue at the
moment, for somehting this price.

Out of interest, what voltage adaptor do you use to power
it?

Anyway - just placed an order on ebay so no going back.
£31.97 including insured air mail - jeez, if this thing
sounds half as good as my current setup its a steal. So
giginger, no excuses, there are about 3 different dealers on
ebay at the moment!



 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-15 16:59 [#01778869]
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I forgot to say that I also own a very nice pair of AKG
K240s, which kick ass sound quality wise... I can't imagine
owning a different pair.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-16 04:57 [#01779065]
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Adaptor I'm running is a cheap (£4) multi-adaptor, set to
12V. A few people who take these things very seriously
indeed have attached it to PSUs costing more than the amp,
but with the current sound quality bottleneck that is my
speakers, such things wouldn't make much of a difference.

I've heard conflicting reports as to whether battery/mains
sound better (I've not tried batteries, but I suspect
there's probably not much in it)


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-16 16:15 [#01779783]
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I can't waitttt :)


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offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-16 17:10 [#01779805]
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Oh look what I just found - the new version, for $100 more.

LAZY_TITLE

I'll see how the cheap one squares up first.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-16 17:19 [#01779806]
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probably wouldn't work to drive 280ohm headphones? (if
someone has modded them to have a headphone jack, I wouldn't
want to try this myself) i bet it would drive some grados
nicely


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 12:30 [#01784950]
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Oh dear...

Well it came today. Tried it with an adaptor I had lying
around. It lit up, but after a few seconds I noticed a
slight burning smell. So i replaced the adaptor with another
one, it lit up, no smell. I hooked everything up, but no
sound at all.

Anyway, whilst examining it, I noticed a rattling sound. I
opened the chassis up, and found a rather large microchip
had detatched. So, no dice. Anyone know anything about
electronics? Could this be the result of using a bad power
supply? I don't know if it was detatched before or not.

I'm sad!


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offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-22 12:44 [#01784973]
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Did you check to see if the adapter had the correct
specifications or did you just plug in a random extra
adapter that you had?


 

offline J198 from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-22 12:46 [#01784975]
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haha! 'plug fits, should work!'


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 12:49 [#01784981]
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Well there's not much in the way of specifications in the
literature. It says DC12V or 14V. I used a 13.5V. I can't
see how the wrong power could detatch a microchip clean off,
though - there's no marks or anything.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 12:52 [#01784986]
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Be silent.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-22 13:05 [#01785007]
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Are there any affordable, efficient, full-range speakers
that would work good with these? or maybe with an amp for
each speaker?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-22 13:08 [#01785012]
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Does the chip that broke off look like this?


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offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 13:09 [#01785013]
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That's the one! :(


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-11-22 13:12 [#01785016]
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That's like the main processor or something.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 13:21 [#01785029]
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I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm not going to fix
it. I just hope the guy will replace it.


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-22 16:17 [#01785044]
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I've ordered another one now.


 


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