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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-31 10:47 [#01766099]
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About two thirds down this page there's a list of guitar pedals. Guess how much? £15 each. £15. I think I'm gonna faint.....
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-31 10:48 [#01766100]
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OH MY GOD
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ToXikFB
on 2005-10-31 10:49 [#01766103]
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my exact thoughts
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-31 11:03 [#01766123]
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OH MY GOD! YOU DECIDED TO POST THIS HERE! OH MY GOD!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-10-31 11:08 [#01766127]
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£15 isn't *ridiculously* cheap. it's the cost of a low-end guitar pedal. i haven't heard these, but i have used certain cheap guitar pedals in the past, and they weren't worth the low cost. they sounded terrible.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-31 11:09 [#01766128]
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my exact thoughts
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ToXikFB
on 2005-10-31 11:10 [#01766131]
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my thoughts exactly
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-10-31 11:10 [#01766132]
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yup exactly. you get what you pay for
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-10-31 11:13 [#01766134]
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that said, some of the high-end, expensive pedals sound really lousy too. :)
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-10-31 11:16 [#01766137]
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my thoughts approximatively
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thatne
from United States on 2005-10-31 11:18 [#01766140]
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Just get a larger-scale effects processor. No need to get multiple expensive stomp-boxes. Unless you are getting like, the Ibanez TubeScreamer TS-7, or the Pi Big Muff or whatever. or the fucking Memory Man, whoever makes that delay item. And the Heil TalkBox.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-10-31 11:19 [#01766141]
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Finding a good pedal is like going on a journey. There are alot of highs and lows
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-31 11:23 [#01766144]
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even "bad" pedals can be "good" at times. I made a (few) song(s) using a really bad pedal (it was a reverse feedback pedal, and it.. well.. it wasn't easy to control, that's for sure.. it could also create some kind of internal feedback loop in itself.. I don't know how it did that, but it was annoying), and they turned out pretty good (after a few tries with the pedal, tweaking it to avoid it going tripping) IMO...
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-10-31 11:23 [#01766145]
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did you know that "pédale" stands for "faggot' in french ?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-31 11:25 [#01766147]
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hahaha!
how the fuck did you get that to "happen?" Hasn't "pedal" got some etymological root in latin, where the word means "foot" or "feet?"
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-31 12:22 [#01766206]
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oh my god. pedals!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-10-31 12:27 [#01766209]
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yeah, when i say the thing sounds bad, i mean it sounds bad-bad, not good-bad.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-10-31 12:29 [#01766212]
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I've just bought 5...what do I use them for?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-10-31 12:32 [#01766215]
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hook them all up to each other, connect one end to a contact mic, the other to an amplifier, let it run for ten hours, then release a ten-cd box set of noise music.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-10-31 12:35 [#01766218]
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playing 'broom brooms' with your imaginary friends. all you need now is a steering wheel cut out of the back of an old corn flakes packet.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-10-31 12:38 [#01766220]
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oh wow, I never thought of that...might be a bit over stimulating compared to old xltronic though.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-10-31 12:44 [#01766223]
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Aparently, those pedals are the same inside as a lot of fancier, more expensive pedals. Behringer has found a way to reverse engineer a lot of the classic pedals on the market, and sell them for next to nothing. Hopefully they are good, because I have heard some good things about that line of pedals. I need some good cheap overdrive and distortion pedals.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-10-31 12:48 [#01766227]
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cheap distortion sound dreadful thuogh
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2005-10-31 13:11 [#01766277]
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cheap cheap cheap!
anyone have experience with the digitech xp series? notably the xp200 modulator?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-10-31 13:42 [#01766335]
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True, cheap anything sounds awfull. But aparently, and this is just what I have heard don't know first hand, Behringer found a way to emulate the circuitry of a lot of established gear that is worth 10X the money and such, so they might actually be worth looking into.
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2005-10-31 16:53 [#01766552]
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"...found a way to emulate the circuitry of a lot of established
gear that is worth 10X the money"
this is what most of the manufacturers of cheap gear claim. but 9 times out of 10 they are noisy, sound like crap and break up very easily. the small plastic danelectros, ibanez soundtanks etc...
i haven't tried these behringers (though i have a mixer by them with crap built-in fx...), but i'd expect to get what you pay for;
even if you could find an ok sound (which i doubt), these are made of plastic and will most likely break up sooner or later.
so maybe ok for lofi-goofing & recording but nothing to depend on.. i'd think
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-10-31 16:57 [#01766553]
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IF ONLY I CARED
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-31 18:11 [#01766599]
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This is excellent... best news in ages!
I've just bought one new off ebay, the Overdrive/Distortion one, for £16.50 including P&P. I'm chuffffffed. Thankyou muchly futureimage, you've saved me godknowshowmuch.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-01 00:58 [#01766772]
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Well, behringer have a hit or miss thing going on with their effects. Hopefully these can be hits before they are misses. Aparently what they have done is mass produce one chip for the entire series, then just changed the connectors around. If that is true, then these will be a dream to bend. I am not totally cynical about them. They have already generated a pretty good ammount of talk, so if they suck, then it will probly be known soon enough, as well if they are good. Either way, for $30 its not much of a risk to make a trip to the store and buy a couple for testing. I am looking forward to picking up a phaser an overdrive and a distortion. Even then, if they aint any good, they will be perfect to try my hand circuit bending with them. :) As well, it could be a cheap way to build a modular all in one effect matrix. :D
But yeah, I agree build quality sounds cheap. Anybody who takes a plastic pedal on stage needs to have their head checked. Nothing says quality like musicians with audio that cuts out halfway through a performance because they cheaped out on their effects.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-11-01 01:29 [#01766776]
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get ...this one if you are getting overdrive... it will be $40 or so, but it seems to be the high end of their new budget overdrive line.
was actually thinking about getting one myself for one of my keyboards... :D
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-01 02:07 [#01766785]
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Honestly, if they all do share a microchip, it would almost be worth throwing a slew of knobs and patchbays into one of them, giving you access to each and every effect. But that is just heresay. I am looking forward to what some of the the cirucuit benders at EM411 have to say about this.
Yeah. I am totally excited. even if the effects turn out sounding cheap, they still prove as good sound design tools.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-01 02:47 [#01766787]
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Even if they sound crap and digital, it's an effect, isn't it? Digital distortion is a valid form of processing in its own right, even if you personally prefer an overdriven tube, etc.
As to the "nothing cheap can sound good" mentality, that's nonsense and snobbery. Yes, generally speaking, most cheap audio gear is very poor, but there are some gems, see this, for example. I'll reserve judgement on these pedals till I hear one in action, but I agree that build quality is likely to suck. If behringer mixers are anything to go by, they'll be half decent sound quality (for budget gear), but they make their money on dirt-cheap build quality.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-11-01 17:00 [#01767383]
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dunno, i'll ask my litterature teacher 2morrow
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rarndaraki
from from from from (United States) on 2005-11-01 17:48 [#01767412]
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they might be decent, they're mixers aren't bad for the price. you guys want to know what pedals i use? of course you do.. these:
ernie ball volume pedal BOSS ddr-5 MXR 10 band eq MXR compression ibanez tube screamer
that's it baby. that's all i ever need. and if i want to get some super processed guitar i just run it all through my laptop.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-11-01 18:17 [#01767418]
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MXR compression - i have that. it's bad in a good way.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2005-11-01 21:27 [#01767468]
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digitech whammy pedal <-- the only guitar pedal youll ever need.
you can do so much with that thing, its unfrickin believable.
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rarndaraki
from from from from (United States) on 2005-11-01 21:47 [#01767470]
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i love that pedal. it's so simple and gives my guitar the perfect boost.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-02 00:19 [#01767493]
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Mind, I am going to circuit bend some of these. That's why I want them so cheap. If I wreck them, I haven't wasted £30 on a Danelectro pedal.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-11-02 01:45 [#01767501]
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haha, same in polish. it's "pedał"
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-08 14:58 [#01773043]
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Ok, I got the OD100. The contruction is a lot more solid than I expected. Solid jacks and knobs. Packaging was a bit shit but hey thats okay. Somewhat lighter than other pedals, probably to do with being plastic. The sound, however, is really really good, certainly as good as something 3 or 4 times the price. I'm going to get some more of these for sure.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-11-08 23:57 [#01773321]
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Glad to hear. I will probly place an order for a couple on thursday then.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-11-09 01:21 [#01773334]
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Hey, I wanted to be the one to say that.
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