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offline K300i from United Kingdom on 2005-10-08 18:31 [#01744713]
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and the baby is mine :)

just the first impressions :

heavy as fuck. 26 kilos and thats with composite plastic
finishes. imagine whats inside. well, hammer-action keys. i
really feel like sitting in front of the piano. the keys
are going up and down perfectly :)

20 knobs, 9 sliders, multiple of buttons, havent really
checked them yet though.i turned this on and launched reason
( 2.5 ). and jesus holy christ - its like completely new
dimension of composing ! with full spectrum of 88 keys, you
can do EVERYTHING.i couldnt imagine getting small controller
with, lets say 25 keys, no ( although i know that for
non-pianists its maybe better as they are not used to that
).

despite the reviews about "specific" way of acting of that
baby - well,no complains. everything seems perfect.

AC power goes through USB, the same USB that sends data in.
already at the start i launched latency at level of 50ms -
unreachable difference for human ear and really,when i hit
the key, i hear the sound ( and i checked that on headphones
- no delays, sequencer trials - no delays.multiple melodic
layers with various effects - no delays ). so basically
latency problems does not exist. at least not in this case,
and the case is SB Audigy NX External- also connected by
USB. i would say that putting the same card into pc (
non-usb but direct connection) would allow me to set the
latency even maybe to levelof 10ms,but comeon.if it will
come to this i will invest my monies in really expensive
proffesional sound card.

hmm. its very very big and very very posh. maybe i will
write down what i discovered about the knobs later on.

anyway - im completely satisfied. thanks for all efforts -
heh, ive been told to put this model at the end of my list,
but now i know it completely suits my needs.

happy days.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-08 18:37 [#01744720]
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Sounds like fun.

When do we get examples?


 

offline K300i from United Kingdom on 2005-10-08 18:39 [#01744721]
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ha ! confidential :P


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2005-10-08 18:47 [#01744731]
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:)


 

offline xf from Australia on 2005-10-08 22:46 [#01744809]
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nice. bought a korg microkontrol the other day - wish the
keys were bloody bigger, though. only gripe with it really
(but it's a big one - sigh).

it's a rad midi controller - that's for sure. rules in
reason.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-10-08 23:04 [#01744812]
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dude obviously works for m-audio

i'm thinkin of pickin up an x-session



 

offline K300i from United Kingdom on 2005-10-09 04:39 [#01744877]
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i dont, dude. x-session has synth keys which means, they are
shit. plus the fact that number of knobs and sliders is
lessimportantas you havemost of them in your software
anyway, dude.


 

offline Unseenmachine from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-09 08:22 [#01745041]
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50 ms latency is quite large actually, I've managed to get
mine down to around 3ms in Reason (Edirol FA66) and you can
really tell the difference. The latency is more to do with
the cards drivers rather than the connection - USB/Firewire
or PCI shouldn't make much of a difference. With my old card
the M-audio Delta 66, I could never get beneath 12ms..
What drivers are u using? ASIO?


 

offline K300i from United Kingdom on 2005-10-09 08:36 [#01745054]
Points: 670 Status: Regular | Followup to Unseenmachine: #01745041



thats the point. i cant find any ASIO driver sfor that
stupid card. so for now im using MME ones. ive checked
drivers on Creative website, and downloaded some ASIO
update, but after installing there was no sound and AudIgy
was throwed out from system devices - dunno why. and then i
had to reinstall whole soundcard, so i sticked up to MME and
50ms. as for now it suits me, tho im still searching for
some good ASIo drivers ( well if card producer hasnt got
them, hEll knows where i will find them ).


 

offline Unseenmachine from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-09 08:49 [#01745062]
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Ah, damn Creative and all they stand for.. Hmm u wouldn't
have to spend much on a new sound card to get ASIO 2.0
drivers.. The Edirol UA-25 (£150-ish) would do the job
nicely, even The UA20..
But u've got urself a decent keyboard there so if ur happy,
cool..


 

offline K300i from United Kingdom on 2005-10-09 09:04 [#01745075]
Points: 670 Status: Regular | Followup to Unseenmachine: #01745062



well, my card simply doesnt support ASIO yet, as its USB
connected ( thats the one in fancy box outside the pc ) and
therefore - software based. in this case, windows / producer
drivers are best to stick with.
they will do ASIO 2.0 at some stage i guess. but really, im
not into stage/live playin. already had seted up the
software to run as i wanted it to run, im kinda like "slower
progress - more possibilities":) thus im just recording
phrases/melodc parts/various stuff, just to edit them later
on. and in this case, latency of 50ms is enough.

and even when i loaded piano into my module, there wasno
delays :) i checked oin few classics,played them few times
- no problem :)

so yeah, shame,but what can you do.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-10-09 12:07 [#01745171]
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i only want an x-session for live sets i dont even know what
synth keys are

but richard devine was using one the other night and he
showed me all kinds of shit about it and its really good for
what i want to do


 

offline K300i from United Kingdom on 2005-10-09 12:54 [#01745190]
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sure man. i bought hammer 88 keys just because im a pianist
and i like to play on piano sometimes, and with that i have
MIDI + piano in one thing. its just about what you need.

plus that novation x-station ( if we talk about that one )
seems to be one of the best anyway :)

(ps. synth keys are basically keys like in synthesizer.
which means, normal, for majority of models ).


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-10-09 13:15 [#01745199]
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what are you talking about hammer

i'm just talking about a usb mixer for live shit


 

offline K300i from United Kingdom on 2005-10-09 13:27 [#01745207]
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allright, i thought youre talking about x-station
controller.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-10-09 13:57 [#01745238]
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i'm talking about this


 

offline K300i from United Kingdom on 2005-10-09 13:59 [#01745243]
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ah. seems nice for live sessions


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-10-09 14:02 [#01745247]
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yeah richie was going off with that thing


 

offline arbstermonster on 2005-10-09 15:38 [#01745296]
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uhmm cool.


 


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