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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-03 06:49 [#01739904]
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Hi Folks,
Anyone know of any PSP homebrew software for music creation? I've spent ages looking, but given the search terms either get Lexicon PSP stuff for the PC/mac (VST instruments) or media/mod players.
Any actual trackers/drum machines etc. available yet or any work in progress that people are aware of?
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big
from lsg on 2005-10-03 07:05 [#01739920]
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it's not hip yet
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-03 07:08 [#01739924]
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http://www.pspmod.com/forums/index.php
Anything there?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-10-03 07:09 [#01739926]
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why would you want to make music on a psp?
i would imagine anysoftware made for it would be catering for the more casual approach of the music production software, and you'd end up using the equivalent of dance ejay
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-03 07:12 [#01739931]
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I've recently got a PSP. Lovely console...
All I have for it is Wipeout Pure and lots of random images and Mp3s on a 512 mb memory card, but they've been entertaining enough.
My DS is rarely used these days. I'd really like to be able to make music on the move with the PSP; it'd be easy to drag about with me then the laptop.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-03 07:17 [#01739936]
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I'm sure the online community could come up with some interesting new programes, or emulators. I could see myself using it to do simple sound-editing tasks to destroy bordem while not at the PC...With a decent sized memory card and some raw sounds, you could create a set of samples on the PSP that could be later transfered via USB to the computer.
I'd agree that most official music-creation things would be a waste of time, along the lines of dance ejay or something.
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pigster
from melbs on 2005-10-03 07:23 [#01739940]
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just wait till ocarina of time gets re-released on ds and make some songs with the ocarina!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-03 07:30 [#01739947]
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Didn't hear about this. :-)
May well re-kindle my interest in the console. I liked Wario Ware (made for a very enjoyable drunk plane journey to California) and Yoshi DS.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-03 07:33 [#01739952]
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why would you want to make music on a psp?
The only music capable laptop I currently own is an old G3 powerbook with supercollider. The battery is shagged on it, so it's not exactly portable.
Even once I get my PC laptop (shortly) there will be situations where a laptop will be too bulky to carry, whereas a PSP can go in my pocket.
i would imagine anysoftware made for it would be catering
for the more casual approach of the music production software, and you'd end up using the equivalent of dance ejay
Yep, I don't hold much hope for official ones, as you say it's likely to be an ejay-alike. However, given the existing PC linkup, there may well be greater support for your own samples etc. than there traditionally has been on the official console based music proggies.
I was hoping there'd be a homebrew tracker/port of an old one (I'm still bitter there was never a good one for the GBA).
An obliging pro has been in touch and I've just been pointed towards:
LAZY_PSP DRUM MACHINE AND BASSLINE EMU
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-03 07:34 [#01739955]
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Brilliant, thanks for that. I'll be checking it out.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-03 07:37 [#01739958]
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-10-03 07:44 [#01739964]
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hmmm actually sounds promising then
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-03 07:49 [#01739968]
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Particularly as it looks like a doddle to make your own drum kits for it...
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pigster
from melbs on 2005-10-03 07:59 [#01739975]
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i kinda doubted the whole Make music on a psp thing, but after i saw that site, i reckon it could be good : )
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-03 08:03 [#01739977]
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Well, I have a 2.0 updated PSP (for the internet browser and other extra features) so how will they get around that? I suppose I could downgrade to version 1.5.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-03 08:09 [#01739980]
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that's what you could do.
but each time a new game comes out, it'll force you to upgrade to the newest firmware.
you bought the thing to play games on, right?
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-03 08:13 [#01739984]
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Exactly. That is what Nintendo wants. GAME ONLY.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-03 09:55 [#01740046]
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You can retrograde to 1.5 from 2. At the moment, people are upgrading from 1.51/1.52 to 2, then going back to 1.5 to play homebrew etc. as aside from web browsing there's little extra it offers. Personally I'll take emulators over web browsing, though of course, after shelling out the best part of £200 for the damned thing, I should be able to do both.
Hopefully, sony will eventually realise that they're losing game sales through their gay locked firmware (eg I'm not the only person who won't buy a game that requires v2 firmware until someone cracks it to let me play emulators and homebrew on it) and leave it alone.
It requires a reasonable level of technical ability to pirate games on it (compared to say, PSone) and the idea that sales will take a big dent due to piracy is simply paranoia. Sure, some people will pirate some games, but I doubt the majority of people owning a PSP will, by any means.
Qrter: you bought the thing to play games on, right?
Nope! Believe it or not, I bought it mainly for videos, mp3s and emulators (yes I know they're games, but they aren't official). Sure, the games are a nice bonus, especially the multiplayer. If it sounds far fetched, check out the gp32... a hell of a lot of people with them don't own any proper games at all!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-03 09:56 [#01740049]
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well. that's alright then.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-03 10:03 [#01740065]
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Yeah, I use it for a variety of things. There's lots of random Mp3s and images on there, and if I get bored listening to stuff or staring at images, Wipeout Pure is in the drive to play-that's been entertaining enough for a while.
It's quite surreal having PS2-level graphics in the palm of your hand!
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-03 10:28 [#01740103]
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I bought it mainly for videos, mp3s and emulators [...] Sure, the games are a nice bonus
Incredible! It should be exactly the opposite :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-03 10:32 [#01740104]
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Yep, Wipeout pure is my only game too. I'll probably get liberty city stories, but I'm not going to treat it like a normal console and buy lots of games for it.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-10-03 12:51 [#01740209]
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i'm not sure if making music on a psp would be my thing... unless i could somehow get my tone generator onto it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-04 10:04 [#01740916]
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For any naysayers who think homebrew is a load of guff/nothing more than an excuse used by pirates. I emailed this link to a mate who had a couple of dead pixels near the middle of his screen and lo and behold, his PSP is healed. Praise the Lord!
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-04 10:13 [#01740922]
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I had 4 dead pixels, now the problem is fixed because I gave my psp back where I bought it. They changed my old psp with a new one.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-06 09:14 [#01742654]
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They'll take it back if you have 3/4+ dead pixels (depends on the place). Hardly anywhere will exchange one that has 1/2 dead pixels (which is still enough to be annoying) and indeed the manual says it's normal and doesn't justify returning it. I'm glad you've got one, what game(s) have you got?
Back to homebrew music software, I got PSP Kick and PSP Rhythm working on it today. I like the swing and feel of the rhythm in PSP Rhythm best, but the TR-707/floops style display style in PSP Kick makes it easier to use. PSP Kick also has better export features and easier support for your own sound sets etc.
I'd say 'Kick' is best for IDM style stuff whereas 'Rhythm' is more like a classic drum machine and good in hip hop etc.
I've yet to try the bassline program, but I intend to...
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big
from lsg on 2005-10-06 09:16 [#01742658]
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poor pixels
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-06 09:16 [#01742659]
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Oh yes, I forgot to mention that if you get into homebrew, the 32mb card is pitiful (I've already had to delete a couple of Wipeout extras to free up space). A 2gb card shall be mine once funds become available.
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2005-10-06 09:18 [#01742662]
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weird. i just woke up from having a dream about making music on a psp.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-06 09:31 [#01742671]
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Yep, it depends on the place but I know that store from ages, the shopkeepers know me very well, because I usually purchase all my videogames there, they are very kind with everyone anyway, in fact I suggested it to many friends of mine.
On my PSP so far I have Medievil resurrection, I really like the two episodes on ps1 so I decided to buy it. In this game there is also the possibility to play to Wipeout pure (demo).
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-06 09:45 [#01742695]
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32 MB are really little, I used to put into my PSP some music and photos, I had to remove them if I wanted to save my medievil. I think I need to buy a big memory, but it costs much, like 200 € for 1 GB : /
By the way here another screenshot of medievil, anyway If you liked the two episodes on ps1 like me I would recommend this one too.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-10-06 09:52 [#01742717]
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But as you said, you seem not much interested to purchase many games for it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-06 10:10 [#01742757]
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Yes, I'll probably get liberty city stories for it and possibly burnout legends, but I'm not planning on buying lots of games for it (although I will be staying away the evening with work a lot more so if I end up playing the PSP a lot, I probably will buy a few more games).
Chaosmachine: No need to dream, friend: With PSP Rhythm your dreams can become reality!
As you can probably tell from this thread, my PSP is now ready for homebrew, so let me know once beta testing for the icarus project commences. Cheers.
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