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i'm currently doing an assignment for uni where we have to analyse a certain piece of music... i've chosen "sublimit" and i'm particularly concentrating on the latter section, from 10 minutes onwards... now i'm not all that crash-hot at my theory so if anyone can add anything for me that they can think of, anything "theoretical" that you can hear, or just points i might be able to bring up, any help would be awesome... thanks :) |
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damn, that last part is brilliant, so much stuff going on in such a minimalistic way..pretty amazing. what do you need to focus on? the sound itself? composition? or something totally else? :) |
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here is the criteria for my presentation... The task: present an analysis of a short excerpt of any song or piece in class. Max 5 minutes (10 minutes in pairs) In your presentation remember to: • identify the salient features of the piece: rhythm, texture, melodic organisation, harmonic organisation, timbre, use of dynamics and articulation, use of space, pace etc • discuss how these elements are used in this piece • focus on one or two features in more detail - give examples • play or perform short audio excerpts (approx 1 min all up) to support your discussion • hand in a transcript of your presentation - this can be in note form. |
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any ideas or help anyone can offer that would be great :) i originally wasnt going to present it tomorrow due to illness, but i'm just gonna get it out of the way... im asking for help coz im sick, im literally a fucking zombie.. i cant even think straight heh.. :D |
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hua, that looks like an awesome assigment! you definitely picked the right thing for this. i can't think of much other music you can so clearly hear so many things going on. man, when that melody comes in 13 something it gets devine!! i wish my english would be better, because i'd like to help, infact if so happens that no one is going to give their thoughts on this i might try and write something :) |
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divine. |
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i'm trying to work out the time signature at the end... i'm getting 4/4 but for some reason i just know that it cant be that simple.... |
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Handling Ae's music as an research work would be my dream man, if, of course, I'd have the necessary knowlege. Somehow I think, that the part regarding "melodic organisation" will be most difficult to explain, especially in the 2-cond part of the song when it becomes very subtle. Good luck! |
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devine, lol |
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haha you hear 4/4 in that? if you're right about this you have a splendid ear :) |
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well theres definatly 16 pulses per bar... i'm following the high pitched metronome that is slightly audible... |
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haha this thread amuses me |
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cool, i'll have to make a note of that and mention it in my presentation :) |
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Could be, they said something like that in an interview |
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I actually only really enjoy that last section of Sublimit-the rest seems a bit detached, like a few ideas that would work well on their own if further developed (although there is some relation to all the sections I guess.) I'll share a few ideas to help a bit later, although I'm not sure they'll be any good. ;-) |
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if you wanted to change it to 3:27 for a minute or so it's in 5/4 time :) sorry, can't help you otherwise |
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If you figure out the end of sublimit you'll have all the pieces to build the 'matter box'. |
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have you already done it? i'd say ... the role this section plays in the album is as a long, slow letdown from an intense musical set. it changes but at a very glacial rate. this is a typical ending for an autechre album, the drawn out plateau -- they do it on Confield, Gantz_Graf and Draft 7.30, to name just the most recent few. it's very atmospheric with not as harsh of sounds as they had been using in most other songs, and the bouncing or clinking of the 'metronome' sound you were talking about creates a sense of energetic yet relaxed pace, much in the way the pianos to a Steve Reich piece might, or even the main pulse in Riley's "In C." the time signature is 4/4; you can tell by listening to where the rhythm repeats and counting the quarter notes by the higher note in that little tinkly 'metronome' thing you were talking about. and it's basically a repeating four-bar rhythmic phrase, which on the '1' of the last bar has a lower, reedy synth playing just a B (listen, for example at 9:25 for it). the quieter, organ-like pads that sustain underneath seem to imply the key of Bb (sounds like every four bars they're going from a Bbadd9 type chord to either an Ab-ish chord or something else that also sets up the felt return to 'home' Bb at the beginning of the next bar), so that the B reedy synth implies just a little harmonic step up before returning back to a felt Bb at the beginning of teh next four-bar phrase, if that makes any sense. sorry, i'm not really a music student. (cont.d in next post) |
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at 10:46 a bit harsher of a texture is introduced in what sounds like reverse reverb that sometimes peaks sharply in swelling sixteenth-note beats. they kind of play around with this sound in a similar way to their use of that really awesome, bloated ghostly sounding whale-like sound they mess around with toward the end of Surripere, just trying out different hits and articulations of this reverby sound to decorate the rhythm, rather freestyle if you ask me. there aren't really any noticeable repetitions in the sound or any intelligible pattern or cadence. and to get those different tones of reverb they might just be triggering different points in some sample? you'll also notice by 12:00 that the grainy fast-delay like sounds that make up the rhythmic texture are louder now. at 13:34 you hear them fade in a higher synthy tone of Bb which goes down to Ab before rising back up to Bb and higher before repeating again at 14:01. now there is a distinct four-hit 'tail' to each rhythmic phrase and the delay-ish sounds that make up the rhythms are very consistent now. the pretty little climbing synth thing just repeats into fadeout, and it's over!! as for the delay-like sounds that become more prominent, they sound just like the cool hyperfast marble bouncing drilly sound that clusters around the cheesy horn stabs earlier, e.g. at 4:00ff. so the ending of the track using the same sounds again seems to me to show a less aggressive, more sublime and peaceful use of this sound in the overall feel of the piece. i dunno what else i'd say, but i hope that is interesting ... let me know what you think! ;) Sera |
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are you really a girl? |
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are you not infact, teh AUTEHCRES ? |
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i'm two girls. making out. while listening to autechre. |
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now shut up and help me build this damn matter box ... |
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Ok, well listen to this. Autechre's tracks, and track titles are both ways for aliens to speak to us about secrets of the universe. Now I did some digging around.. Each frequency spectrum in each song, contains an equation, and in some cases many equations, to how to mold matter into something different. Whe we can solve the equation, we can build a 'matter box'. Now a matter box is basically something that transforms electrons and photons and whatever other particles exist, into something new. It is a way for forcefully transform a table into a chair fo example. The recipe for this matter box is hidden in autechre's songs. Now I beleive that once we solve the biggest equation of them all, the big mystery that is the red string in all of ae's songs, that we will be able to build something completely fantastic. Maybe a time machine? A worm hole? Who knows what mysteries the universe can hold. Now the track titles are very important. They represent part of the equation, and they also give us an idea of how these aliens language is like. Their language is of course divine, perfect. They have spent thousands of years building a language that represents everything in the universe. Do not worry they are a peaceful race. From today on I made this my obsession, my life if you will. Before I die I will build this matter box, and maybe even build the larger puzzle. -Taken from Demigod Cx A.E 2005 |
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no girl knows that much about music! this is a sham! |
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dorky boys ... *rolls eyes* |
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i think . |
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are spending much time over the fence, 3teeph? |
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... interesting. |
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dammit. there should be a you in that sentence somewhere... |
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cx |
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jell-o-l |
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lol seracelsus i just thinkin its a cool song!@1 |
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me too! |
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so how was your assignment ?? |
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