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I was going to say that, yes, I am slightly pissed about all the nigger comments and jokes pop up occasionaly. I just wanted to show what that word means to me. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. |
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that wasnt fair. |
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black people seem to be less tolerant then white people these days |
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i just don't get..why do afro americans always make such a big deal about it..they/you should know better. we're all just people..jav |
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mertens is a nigga? |
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yeah i can see that. I get called "cracker" and "Honkey" and "stupid white boy" from time to time depending on the area that i am in. I think its funny though. "honkey" really makes me LOL |
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why honkey? where does it come from? |
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in case you haven't noticed, "cracker" and "honkey" aren't words that bear the stigma of hundreds of years of slavery and oppression. so they have different fucking meanings. |
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Less tolerant? Could you explain please? |
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well exactly. |
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it's somehow justifiable, but I don't know.... |
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they were fcuked in the past..why do they have to make such a big deal out of it? im pretty sure that everyone knows what was going on, and it was wrong, and we all feel sorry that happened. but when will all this stop? how is this constant remembering helping? |
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i think it's really shit how some of you have been throwing around racist comments like it's ok. it's not ok. it may be "just a word" to you, but it's extremely offensive to others. and don't give me that shit about free speech and what a "nigger" is. obviously you can say the word, but don't expect people to love you for saying it. |
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to put it oversimplified: the word keeps being used - hence it keeps being remembered. |
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maybe it's different in the states than in slovenia, but using language like that here can evoke a very recent and frightening hatred. |
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ok, perhaps it's just me, but i can't be offended that easilly. you can call me anything and i just won't care.. |
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yeah, i just can't see it why..it's just a word.. |
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also, it's not as if black people are now on the same level as, for example, white people. in some way or other a lot of that is a consequence of the past - it is good to remember what happened in the past that helped create the current situation, to help to understand it. you know, that whole thing of the past helping us to understand the present. |
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well, it may be hard to understand if one not been hated for the color of one's skin. |
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I wonder if you know a word that has the same connotations attached to it, though, the same kind of history. |
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you're either black or white or brown or yellow or whatever. it really doesn't fucking matter. why do people continue to give a shit. |
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yeah definitely. but they have equal rights now, but they're still not ok with it. i hate the fact that you must be careful of the words you pick when a black person is present.. |
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Nigger in its original context meant "ignorant fool". People dont like being coined terms such as "fag". But instead of saying nigger they actually said "fool" or something else it would be racist today. I dont know. I dont find anything really racist. i am not. I dont see the point in labeling people based on skin colors. I do use the word to show a difference in actions though as i explained in another thread. I dont know i think Edward Norton hit it on the head "Slavery ended 157 years ago. Move the fuck on" Why should anyone focus on the past? Its good to know history but we should focus on the now. Its like you dont see the jews making a big deal when we and if we call them jews and theyve been oppressed since like the dawn of time and shit. my point? although i understand the meaning behind that word i feel as though many various cultures have endured shit. One situation is not better or more significant then another. i dont know. |
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i don't think a 20 year old african american has the history in mind when you say 'nigger' in a small talk. just silly to think that. IMO |
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Sorry, I don't want to enter a in-depth discussion, I don't feel competent enough, for I don't know any black people in person. Only an impression... It's the same old "constant remembering" issue with Jews. Another example: We, Poles are often (still) hostile to Germans, and so on... |
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SORRY i just wanted to make a joke -- the fact that the AFRICAN AMERICAN was bound to a wheelchair was also integral to the joke. "the nigger in the wheelchair". it's exhibiting ignorance at both ends of the sentence. a few people found it funny. i'm glad it made people laugh. none of these people are racist, i am certain, and I for one am certainly not a racist. I do also understand and recognise the connotations attached to this word -- and these were essential to the joke. the joke was about ignorance. "the nigger in the wheelchair". it's a completely ignorant and dickheaded thing to say, that's what made it funny. So I wrote it. And people found it funny. |
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the grammar in that post was a bit shoddy |
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"but they have equal rights now, but they're still not ok with it." and that's where I have to disagree with you. they seemingly have. |
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nigger meaning fool? never come across that one. I've always believed it's a variation of "negro". Which makes a lot more sense. |
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yeah, totally depends on the context. |
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I don't think this is about one instance in particular, more the ease with which it is used. |
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YOU make me remember when you use that word! The stigma attached to it will NEVER go away. It's easy to say 'quit your bitching' or 'get over it' but I can't as long as that word and the attitude behind it remains. How can I make you understand this? |
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can you give an example then? :) |
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I speak it better than i type it. I am also still fucked up from yesterday. I hope i dont get a hangover. haha! I got an idea. How about the african americans stop using the word aswell. If it ends it should end for everyone. Since we are all the same. |
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racism didn't end recently - it's still very real. and calling a black person a nigger still bears the connotation of hate. |
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you can't im affraid. something i just can't comprehend. for me it's just a word, although it depends on how it's being used i suppose. many words can sound very offensive to me when used in an offensive context. |
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uhm i'm sure there are as many darkies who are offended by the word nigger as their are white people. i'm sure they don't all use it. you can't make that presumption. |
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yeah, kinda funny that - it's ok for them to be calling eachother nigger, but when a white person says it iit get's offensive. so much for history.. |
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from another perspective, i think that in many ways western culture has strongly embraced many aspects of so-called "black culture." in so many ways, "black culture" is seen as a hallmark of cool. some african-americans historically defused the sting of the slur by appropriating the word for themselves, calling each other "nigger" within their own social circles. now as "black culture" has been so strongly embraced, many people who are not african-american feel more comfortable in using the word as african-americans might; not as a slur or an insult, but in the same way other people might say "dude" or "man," but with a hip, urban and slightly transgressive quality. i'm not saying it's right or wrong or that anyone has to like it, but honestly if an african-american calls someone who is not african-american "nigger" (and i swear it happens) , it would (in certain contexts) be a tremendous compliment. the word is also used very lightly in extremely popular television programs like chappelle's show. it's working it's way towards popular acceptance, and will probably end up completely divorced from its origin as a racial slur. |
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Jesus guys, respect the darkie before he joins up with the spics and rules america |
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Its hard for me to grasp this (with all due respect). I can understand if you or someone you know that is alive went through some sort of hate crime and you heard about it first hand or experienced it yourself. But its hard for me to think that something that is in the past can effect someone that didnt have to deal with the horrors that occured. I am not trying to downplay anything here but i am just giving my honest view. No offense intended! |
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yes that was a fucking joke btw |
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and I said I don't think you have the same field of reference - do you have a word that has the same kind of very negative historical background that still echoes in modern society? this does not mean that everytime you hear that word you have to stand still and rethink the whole historic path of the word - the word gets ingrained with the historic knowledge. |
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ok, why do young black people use that word so often then? because they enjoy being miserable? |
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"Nigger. Nigger. Nigger Nigger. Nigger Nigger, please I'm treated like a fuckin disease. You say: why can I call myself a nigger so quick? Cause I can reach in my draws and pull out a bigger dick Yo! niggers say nigger we cool" NWA make me want to say the n word in your face |
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"Its like you dont see the jews making a big deal when we and if we call them jews and theyve been oppressed since like the dawn of time and shit." Jew is not a derogatory term. Call one a kike and see what happens. And they do make a big deal about the holucaust and rightfully so. Fuck, think of all the hollywood movies dealing with the subject, the many holocaust museums and anti-semitism organazations around. |
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hollywood is crap. luckly there's oprah show. she keeps people well informed about the opression against black people. |
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I know some jews and saying something like "fuckin jew" with extreme disgust will be offensive but rightfully so. We do it for shits and giggles. We bust each others balls like that. Then the jew tells Jesus jokes and such. Its more or less lighthearted. I know black people like that. I just grew up different. I grew up with people that didnt give a shit about a word if it was lighthearted joking style. So that would kind of sort of explain my attitude on this. |
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it's funny how america seems to be the only country raising those issues.. |
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fuck that "woman power" bullshit feminist crap. makes me sick. you go girlfriend |
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