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So ummmm.... I've now listened to all of the sets circulating and saw AE in LA. I had a absolutely great time and most of these sets sound excellent. BUT, the one topic of conversation that comes up about all of this, is the one-long-ass-track-approach v.s. the several tracks-noodling-variable-tempos-approach. Obviously the former is indicative of the Untilted tour and is very successful at putting the audience " purely in the moment" or in the context through which this album was written. Ok. But fuck, without these recordings I probably couldnt remember anything from the show aside from the semi-familiar Untilted snippets and that there were beats constantly going at 160+ BPM the whole time... And don't get me wrong, while I was there I really enjoyed the show (perhaps thats just the veil of anticipation?). Though when I listen to these sets now, I have to say, its equal parts intriguing and well, dare I say, BORING as shit. Now think of this: If I (we?) are getting bored during one set, fucking Rob and Sean most be dull out of their pants by now, right? So in conclusion: Hopefully Rob and Sean will take a nice rest, reflect, noodle a bit, and come up with an album that is worthy of a more exciting and re-memborable live experience. Thanks for the tour guys! Now go back to the shire and bang Mira Calix and while you're at it, fire Alex Rutterford. |
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they can put a man on the moon but they can't get a black man in buckinghamshire |
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that is probably why they only perform live when they release an album every four years or so :D |
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shut up |
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Mira Calix aint pretty, but he will probably refer to his choice of wife as being "abstract" ;) as for the tour, yeah, what horsefactory said |
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Well, |
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Nah they are at the top of their game as usual man. None of the live content was boring in my opinion. That shit was banging phat the entire time and, like you said, they did not let up. Just unbelievably cool shit one thing after the other. Saying that untilted, or the tour was not worthy? Just, no. The stuff they are doing now is TOP. I hope we get some new stuff as soon as later this year or early '06, and I can't wait for the next tour. But yeah, man, with all due respect, you are speaking for yourself when you say you are getting bored. |
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penexpers you are a masogynist and a fucking moron...please please get banned. |
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nah penex is alright if not a bit abrasive |
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so why rag on mira calix? i mean it's fine if you don't like her music, but why do you fucking twats have to say stupid shit that just reveals that you're all pathetic pimplie little boys who drool on autechre's nuts. the only way you can feel okay is if you tare people down. that's sooo productive and mature. fucking moron. that's @ you penexpers |
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See now I'm thinking Autechre needs to be working on 2 albums at a time - release one, and tour off of wanking around with the second one live, rather than sound like they are rewritting the most recent album (the first one) in real time right there.... Release Album 'A' then go on tour and only play material from 'B' Release Album 'B' then go on tour and only play material from 'C' and so on and so on. That's what they did for the Coachella 99 set. They opened with Pen Expers and then didnt release the track for another 2 years. |
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Hi, my name's G0tch, you'll remember me from over a hundred threads where I banged on about "Untilted" not being very good. I had a rest for a bit and now I'm banging on about "Untilted - Live" not being very good. Maybe I should listen to some other music, but I just listen to music I don't like, like "Untilted". Which isn't any good. I will now follow this up by saying that I never said "Untilted" wasn't any good, I was just saying that it wasn't very good. |
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shit man, they played a gescom track during that set that didn't get properly released until 4 years later! 100 bucks says these niggas could release another ace record tomorrow if they wanted too. |
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Hi G0tch, my name is gl0tch. One day I will be a moderator too, and a prick while I am at it just like you, and in doing so I will thoroughly disgust those people here who actually post regularly and have something worthwhile to say. But you wouldn't know that because you don't actually read the posts. You're to busy flexing, FAG. |
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yeah i reckon you're right. they're such a good band, they can do anything they want! i reckon if the wanted to they could get in the charts n shit. |
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I think the sets were great and it was really good to see them live. I do think that they could do with a bit of "performance" ie something to look at. The darkness is very moody and sets the tone but after a while it gets boring. They could do with a Bez who can dance on the stage, perhaps a robot Bez!! |
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bez IS a robot, he's certainly not human |
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the live set was certainly great |
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it was great, and to be enjoyed live i think |
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my smiley avatar has more personallity than me these days ^^ |
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"If I (we?) are getting bored during one set, fucking Rob and Sean most be dull out of their pants by now, right? " triple NO |
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THATS WHAT IM SAYING |
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triple NO ? or that shit gl0tch is saying ? |
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sorry, i only read the first post which pissed me enough to give INSTANT reply |
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heh heh, you're funny. |
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I tried reading that first post three times and I still don't get it. |
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i'm glad You can laugh about it now. and that i can't get bored with ae. |
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perhaps by bored I meant uninspired or better yet, lack of memorability. |
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listen to something else for a while. and after a few weeks without ae you'll love them again. |
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boring...no. BUT memorable....no. |
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its about the music to them, its not a Motley Crue stage show heres how it works: a)take stage b)dont talk to the crowd c)play music d)leave stage e)you want more, go see Van Halen or something. |
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yeah, i think that was the idea behind the whole playing in darkness thing, but really....it could have been a lot more interesting. if i wasnt so wasted, i'd have prolly hated it. |
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im sure they wanted you to see thier set wasted, maaaaaaaaaaaaN, some reason i doubt that. some of us who truely love the music, would be enjoyed (new word?) with seeing thier set, but thats just me, i guess |
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hi, my name is gl0tch, and after having heard several Ae live sets, I beg on my bare knees for more sets of them. I need to listen to at least six of them to find out I think they are boring. And when another recording is out there, I'll probably start begging again to download it and find it boring afterwards. |
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Morgoth, thats a great style of post presentation!! -glotch doesnt like the new nine inch nails either |
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hello recycle hello my names hanal and very much enjoyed ae @zoo manchester,thee best gig ive been to.thank you.over an out. |
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sorry Mr. Hanal, i liked Morgoth's a tad bit more :) ae @ zoo, ----2005 tour ? sean and rob told me they are going to camp-out in my back yard when they do america2005V2 tour. |
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Please, compare my style to dog_blech's post above... |
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i know im the tent man |
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NO ! :) |
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He doesn't read my posts, for political reasons. And highly sexually charged ones, as well. |
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thats not true at all Mr. dog_belch, i did read this thread, your posts included, in its entirety, but by the time i had read the bottom of this thread, Morgoth's post included, and had gone into the kitchen, and downstairs, i suppose your post was overlooked... my bad... thanks for your interpretation. |
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All the stuff from Chiastic Slide onwards requires repeated listenings to fully understand, which is why AE live is frustrating. I saw them on the Confield tour and yeah, the only thing I remember is it was good and Confield-y. As for listening to a bunch of live sets you've downloaded, hey, even quality is boring in sufficient quantity. You CAN and WILL get bored of sex if you overdo it. The fact that they're able to reassemble their tracks in realtime into forms that are almost more awesome than the releases is fucking amazing and wonderful whether you only listen to it a bit and get floored or if you listen to it way too much and get bored. |
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you can never,never get bored of sex. |
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Well not permanently. But you can get to where your fiddlybits are raw and you'd rather have a coffee and a newspaper just then. |
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are you tring to say that listening to autechre is like boring sex ? youve never had amazing sex then to the lovely beats of autechre have you ? next autechre ep. "the sex" |
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ah yes thats happened. |
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i do truly love all of the recorded works of autechre i have, but the live thing was very disappointing by comparison.....maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaN |
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Agreed. And it seems some of you only see what you want to see... If I recall I do remember opening this up by saying I thought the sets were excellent and I had a fantastic time at the LA show. It's just that as good as it was, it dragged on further than it needed to. If you could blindly cut the set up into 15 second snippets and basically rearrange it in a random order, you wouldn't necessarily know which placement in the set you found yourself in, aside from maybe those familiar Untilted moments. Why? Because the set (though intriguing AS I HAVE MENTIONED FROM THE BEGINNING) did little to develop over time. Maybe that's the point, but my criticisms lie in asking whether this was the best mode of presentation. Whatever. I mean, shit, Pitchfork said they liked the show. Now that's saying something. Oh and btw, my name is Morgorth. I like to exaggerate facts in a pathetic attempt to try to emulate other "online entities" because I lack the creativity, or maturity, to present my own ideas or respectively keep them to myself. |
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