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Jedi Chris
on 2005-05-30 09:55 [#01616645]
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Lets all enjoy this afternoon and stop this constant bickering and silliness. It is this kind of nonsense that reminds me why I havent been coming here so often in recent months.
God help you all if I started banning people on a whim!
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-30 09:57 [#01616647]
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Indeed.
It's only a bloody internet message board, not a life support machine. 7 Days of the real world could do us all some good.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-30 09:57 [#01616648]
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if i got any calmer i'd ooze out of my seat.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-30 09:57 [#01616649]
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wow you're really on top of this one
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-05-30 09:58 [#01616651]
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i think 84% of your posts contain a ban-threat.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-30 09:58 [#01616652]
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this is the post who i wasn't able to post in the other closed topic
""I think that is a very negative post, and I think it encourages wild speculation, which is something this board doesnt need at the moment"
Dear Jedy, we're friends from ages here in xltronic, so you should know me better. I simply asked who banned Tridenti and why, then this post degenerated 'cos nobody gave me an answer. Anyway now I will stop with this ban-shit-topic 'cos I understand game becoming too much long and boring.
i'm a little disappoint with all you moderators but i think you often are disappointed with my polls too... so... it's equal, isn't it :-)
now everybody make a big smile and some mod close this topic"
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Jedi Chris
on 2005-05-30 09:58 [#01616653]
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Snap! Same with yours. You've just earned yourself a prize - guess what?
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-05-30 09:59 [#01616654]
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woofer, get someone with better english skills to translate your polls
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-30 10:00 [#01616656]
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you're free to help me if you desire...
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staz
on 2005-05-30 10:00 [#01616657]
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Actually, people gave you a reason.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-30 10:00 [#01616658]
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don't tell me he's banned
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-30 10:00 [#01616659]
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i think the only one engaged in wild speculation was yourself.
i don't think anyone else on the whole board gives a fuck who banned tridenti.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-05-30 10:01 [#01616660]
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maybe you should get someone with a native english language. make a thread about it.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-30 10:01 [#01616661]
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ok.
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ToXikFB
on 2005-05-30 10:02 [#01616662]
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hes banned, get over it...and if you must know do it privately at least
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-30 10:02 [#01616663]
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good idea
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Jedi Chris
on 2005-05-30 10:02 [#01616664]
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Bingo! I come here trying to calm the situation down and he posts something silly like that - what did he expect?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-30 10:03 [#01616665]
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tridenti was given more patience and warnings than anybody i've ever seen on the board - he had it coming. nobody has to answer to you.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-30 10:03 [#01616666]
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I do agree with some of the statements you made. :O
:D
But shouldnt we have used that thread as an open forum? People are seeing various views on this subject and i feel as long as there is logical gentlemen like discussion then it is ok. Although that thread was a bit hostile you have to remember that through strong viewpoints you are going to find strong emotions.
It wasnt a flamefest or anything and i feel (although mildly negitive) it was handled it a gentlemenly fashion with people actually listening to others persectives for a change.
I think it worked as a forum to debate the current questions by some about the moderation team and the mods were very reseptive to the comments and gave feedback to perhaps answer the questions that the users had.
Perhaps we should let the discussion a bit until everyone expresses themselves? Once that is fully achieved then the discussion will end itself.
Closing a thread like that leaves the people with stuff to say feeling as if they didnt get a chance. That leads to more unclairified negitivity that carries over into other threads and creates more tension.
Just my view point.
:)
I will take your advice and enjoy my beautiful afternoon. Sunny and a mild 70 with a gentle zephyr. An afternoon at a local bbq wings joint with some slow beers and laughs about camping that occured over the weekend.
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2005-05-30 10:04 [#01616667]
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You're joking.... right?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-30 10:04 [#01616668]
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You just banned Shope? Please clairify for me. If so i would like to say a few things before i go if you dont mind.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-30 10:05 [#01616669]
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huh?!?
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Jedi Chris
on 2005-05-30 10:05 [#01616670]
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Your point is taken, but I will not stand by and watch any of these topics turn into a flamefest as you so elloquently put it!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-30 10:07 [#01616671]
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you didn't just ban epohs, did you?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-05-30 10:07 [#01616672]
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I've got a bad feeling about this.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-05-30 10:07 [#01616673]
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you're one of the reasons behind this flamewar, you should really remain quiet.
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nacmat
on 2005-05-30 10:07 [#01616674]
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what?
I dont know if we are friends... but if we are... I can tell you that you are fucking loosing it
what has epohs done???? you must be drunk today...
you ask us to calm down??? and what about your thread this morning trying to get people into a witch hunting.... this is too far man
I sincerely appreciate you, but you are not acting like a mod these days, threatening all the time with your mod powers
but among all the people you could bann you banned epohs, one of the best people in here, always nice and funny and with interesting posts... and he did NOTHING
you fucking lost it man.
think about it... and change if you want respect man
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-05-30 10:07 [#01616675]
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It's actually quite scary posting lately, being new around here makes me an easy ban-victim :p
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Jedi Chris
on 2005-05-30 10:07 [#01616676]
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No I'm not. I dont know what went on earlier, but if anyone else says anything in a similar disrespectful vain, then I'll give them the same, and clearly make it clear that I did it. As to what happened earlier, I agree with which ever mod did the banning, we all know the rules
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-30 10:08 [#01616677]
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I'm glad we have someone here like yourself who at least tries to diffuse situations like these with well thought-out posts incorporating the viewpoints of all involved.
really. I don't want to sound like i'm brown-nosing, but I never got a chance to post in the other thread - it was closed *just* when i'd finished reading it, and yours were the only posts which stuck out.. apart from dog_belches, which were very amusing, but inflammatory.
I'm leaving this computer lab now because i'm getting stared at by a guy I know to be gay.. I hope this thread doesn't erupt at all and that all responsibilities of mediation aren't burdened on the shoulder of a single handle & avatar combo. :)
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-05-30 10:09 [#01616678]
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a word of advice would be to stick with the safe music threads, which also is quite more interesting than this internet drama shit.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-05-30 10:10 [#01616679]
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"i think 84% of your posts contain a ban-threat."
hardly disrespectful. Especially when preceeded by "if i got any calmer i'd ooze out of my seat."
Christ. This is insane. Goodbye.
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staz
on 2005-05-30 10:10 [#01616680]
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Ohhh, god damn. The internet. Drama on the internet.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-30 10:10 [#01616681]
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you are nothing more than a TROLL. baiting people into arguements and then banning them - you silly nerd.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-30 10:11 [#01616682]
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omg thats really unreasonable man, i can't believe you're serious.
don't you see that it only has the reversed effect when you are this strict? people will keep on making new threads when others are closed in which a discussion is going on.
man bunch of naive fucks <- ban me for this if you like
i think the mods are more immature than the members that get banned for nothing,
epohs even paid last week to support xlt btw, he must be really glad with this gesture
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-05-30 10:11 [#01616683]
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Yes, I'm gonna try sticking to those. But it's kind of hard when the only active threads are about dramaqueens.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-30 10:12 [#01616684]
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In all due respect, I feel that your decisions are often overly brash. You are not a bad person. I've chatted with you in the past but these types of actions make your status as moderator seem questionable. Banning shope (regardless of the misconstrued text) is equal to banning phobia. I have never once seen Jason say anything negitive towards another member let alone prove someone.
His statement is correct in the sense that you seem to surface when you feel the need to ban people. That is where the percentage would arise. That in and of itself makes it appear that you would have zero interest of this community as a community. Moderation should come second to that. How can someone moderate and correctly guage and judge posts and various other texts if you dont understand the members. Again no offense intended.
But wildly taking his posts out of context (especially when there is validity behind it) is completely questionable.
Please reply as i would like to see where you stand on this.
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nacmat
on 2005-05-30 10:15 [#01616685]
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I also want to see that answer, cos I am perplexed
above all cos what epohs said was simply the truth
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-05-30 10:16 [#01616687]
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You make it really hard writing a good post about this matter, my dear friend. Every aspect I though about commiting to text has already been written by you. I think I'll just hop into your pocket and wholeheartidly support you in every letter you type.
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2005-05-30 10:22 [#01616689]
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I don't think Woofer's English is that bad at all. Being an ignorant English bastard myself, I can't speak any other languages. Would love to be able to speak Italian, or French, or German, or Welsh, or Gaellic etc., must be great for your perception of things.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-30 10:23 [#01616690]
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Why thank you! <3
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That said. How can one moderate a situation that they do not understand for lack of being around? We still have opecks, xceque, and ceri that could have chimed in as they were neutral in that particular thread.
Again jedi with all respect, this makes it not only difficult for other members to understand but adds to the perplexity of the situation.
I believe there were around four moderators in that thread that are around more often and better understand the posters in that thread and thats why it wasnt closed. This in conjunction with my original (i believe) post in this thread should provide an ample viewpoint that is perhaps shared by others.
Perhaps you could step back, put everything aside and try to understand the very people you are moderating.
Thank you for your time and patience.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-05-30 10:28 [#01616694]
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i still love that board really - and i don't think i will ever leave it.
but i actually realised that since we have the few (6 or so?) mods more the ban-frequency increased rapidly...
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uzim
on 2005-05-30 10:29 [#01616695]
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"Snap! Same with yours. You've just earned yourself a prize - guess what?"
> ...and YOU're the one who tells other people to calm down? -_-
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2005-05-30 10:32 [#01616698]
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You know I really should read the other posts, instead reading a few and going straight to the bottom. Sorry guys.
Bella Omni Contra Omnes
Ur, virginpusher and woofer for moderators. Got my vote. That's a good idea, we should vote for moderators.
Maybe that would take too long. Maybe I should stop arselicking.
BYE x
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-30 10:35 [#01616700]
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This is DISGUSTING
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-05-30 10:36 [#01616701]
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thanks for your trust, and... for my english... :-)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-30 10:38 [#01616703]
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One final thing before i am off to lunch.
In the FAQ it states:
Can you really ban me? Of course we can. If we find you annoying, destructive for the mb or behaves in a "bad" way - then we won't hesitate to ban you.
If you notice the underlined text it shows that moderators work as part of a moderation team. "If we find you annoying" would imply that more than one moderator is annoyed. That it was discussed and justly decided upon.
I believe that this very text which is used as an ample reason to ban people is being used as an unfair loophole Chris. "we" implies the team aspect of a community.
Tridenti being banned was done in the "we" sense of the matter and over the course of time. Shope being banned because you were immediately annoyed and acted out of a harsh passion is quite an unjust action.
I would like to ask for his B7 to be lifted. I believe i have provided ample evidence for my case and viewpoint.
Unfortunately i feel as though i risk a banishment just for pointing out these minor difference. No one here should have to feel like that.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-30 10:39 [#01616704]
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Out of the fucking loop and into the fucking black hole of the internet. Fucking hell. I'm trying hard here to staid my typing fingers.
It's a fucking joke. This place was slowly getting sorted out.
All this because of some 12 year old getting banned?
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2005-05-30 10:41 [#01616705]
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I'm in a happy mood. I've come back home to Tadley for a while and my parents have bought this mandolin. I've been teaching myself to play it. Wicked fun. Should be revising though.
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uzim
on 2005-05-30 10:41 [#01616706]
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definitely.
i don't know who made the mistake of making Jedi Chris a mod, but i think that's one of the worst things that happened to this messageboard since i'm here...
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