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OK, I've now got a spare old PIII850 which is of no use to man or beast. I've decided I'll use it to get myself some hands on experience of Linux. Q: What's the best distribution to start off on. Good amount of features etc. :)? |
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linux is pretty good. And, I installed it on a slower machine than yours and I use it almost every day, at least a little bit. Totally usable. |
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I Foresee This Thread To Become Of The 300 Posts Or More. To All In It: Good Luck And God Speed. |
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I haven't a clue, but a mate of mine is fanatical about gentoo. To be fair, i've whizzed around it a bit and it's pretty easy to use. |
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Really though, if your just playing around, it's kinda fun to try out a whole bunch of different flavors of linux. They've all got things about them that are good, and other things that suck the nadsweat off dead donkies. |
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Gentoo is aimed at significantly more advanced users than ubuntu is. The install process is quite a bit more complicated, all command line and whatnot... but, portage is nice for keeping your system cutting edge. As long as you don't overwrite some obscure configuration file that breaks some oddball package. |
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Well I'll try Ununtu as it covers all ethnicities. |
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Ubuntu even. |
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http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i 386.iso.torrent is downloading. |
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That's exactly what I did a week or so ago. It only took about 15-20 minutes to install. Whereas the first time I installed Gentoo it took me 3 days. )c: |
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Should be fun. I read about a cool anti aliasing enhanced linux. Am i going mad? |
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Well, if you're actually trying to USE linux for anything, you'll probably be mad. :D |
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Yay! |
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I sometimes want to puke when I see how much some of you know about technology. |
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Well see how hard you puke next time you need some tech support, eh? :D |
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mandriva is pretty OK for novice users, as is fedora (slightly more advanced). just DO NOT do Debian or any of the BSD flavours (though technically this is not entirely linux) |
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what the fuck are you on about. i SWEAR by debian. people say it wouldn't be great for beginners but it's certainly a hell of a lot nicer (package handling, deb > RPM soo much) than mandrake/redhat/all that crap. also, it, along with slackware, are the only two linux distros left that are truly open-source developed. also BSD isn't a flavour of linux, it's a flavour of unix. just like linux is a flavour of unix, and ubuntoo is a distribution of that flavour. saying BSD is "not entirely linux" just shows how much you need to shut your trap. |
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I guess of every know-it-all fuckwit there has to be a superlative. Climb back in the womb you came from and take those 9 months your mum wasted to die. |
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While technically you are correct - and you could have also mentioned that Ubuntu is basically a friendlier Debian - this is not the friendly face of Linux that we want new users to see. This is the acne-festooned fatass of knowitall-ism. Play nice, kids! |
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you might perhaps want to read before you go and act like a "more-hardcore-than-thou" wiseacre. the opinion of many probably means more than just your own. |
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i'd totally disagree with two points there: "RedHat Linux is considered by many to be the best distribution for beginners" "Debian is for those who would like to learn the inner workings of Linux" Neither is true. Redhat gets users off to a disadvantaged start. I started on SuSE, then used mandrake (which is really a repackaging of redhat) for about a year. Grew to hate it. There are so many things in it that are just so... wrong.. Then I found slackware and everything was a-ok. Then debian went one step further by delivering a packaging system that actually WORKS (i couldn't believe it after using RPM) Fair enough, if you have an adverse reaction to using a command prompt, then debian isn't for you, because it doesn't come with those bullshit GUI tools for administration purposes. But in my opinion, if you don't like using the command line, don't use linux. It should be used as a server OS because this is what it performs at best.. |
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The BSD kernel is a completely different codebase that dates back to the 70s. The Linux kernel was written from scratch by Linus Torvalds in the 90s. BSD is a direct descendant of Unix, and Linux is not. Because of licensing problems with ATT, people abandoned BSD en masse in the 90s and jumped on the Linux bandwagon, so it has a lot more users, support, and arguably more advanced features thanks to companies like IBM adding stuff to make it scale up to big iron. |
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ubuntoo should be fine for a new user. I just took great offense at your comment on debian. I don't think anyone who WANTS to use linux would have a problem with it. There's just as much learning involved (and it's really not learning, just getting accustomed to a different OS) with it as with other distros - as long as you're using them right. |
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I found that Mandrake was like bizarro-world RedHat. Frequently I'd run across problems that just couldn't be solved because the filesystem was a fucking rat's nest. Drove me up a wall. |
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i had exactly the same problems. when i'd try to install software that had to be compiled, since RPMs weren't available for it, it'd take hours of fucking around to even get through the configure script, even though all the dependencies were met. and still people (i'm referring to the linux community in general here) still insist on reccomending it to new users? it's insane. |
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though a command prompt is probably 50x more flexible than a GUI, it's not the thing you want a beginner to start with rightaway. perhaps he should get used to the file system and basic commands first, then go one stup further each time by trying different distros giving the user more and more freedom each time. agreed though, if you're totally not into command prompts you should either stick with windows or if you're willing to pay, go for linspire :P (!) |
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haha go get us some coffee :) |
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rm *.* |
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Technically speaking you get better results with sudo rm -rf /* |
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rf rox but im trashed |
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I started something here! |
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cat /dev/random > /dev/hda ps: freebsd. |
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this.topic > /dev/null |
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ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 |
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keep us updated giginger... inquiring dorks want to know how it goes. |
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Well the torrent is downloaded. I just need to connect up the other computer. Then we shall have some fun. I fear I may have the wireless problems you've had those Shope master 11 |
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I mean 'puke in awe', silly onion. |
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what wireless card do you have? |
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Netgear something. I'll check what one. |
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the way i got it working was by installing some version of linux headers, and a compiling the latest version of from source, and using the driver that came on my windows install CD. it was a complex set of steps that i never would've figured out on my own. |
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I'll be sure to read that properly. I think I have one. |
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it all depends what chipset that card uses. g'luck mate |
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the way i got it working was by installing some version of linux headers, and a compiling the latest version of ndiswrapper from source,... no offence but advice like this is probably why you shouldn't just try linux having only windows experience (and little or no experience in programming). |
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huh? |
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