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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-16 10:30 [#01567171]
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What are his/they're best two or three albums?
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-04-16 10:42 [#01567181]
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BOARDS OF CANADA - [2002] Geogaddi [WARP101] APHEX TWIN - [1996] Richard D. James Album; Aphex Twin [WARP43]
PRODIGY - [1997] The Fat Of The Land
they are in random order...
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-04-16 10:43 [#01567182]
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but i like much also other albums...
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-16 10:47 [#01567187]
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whaa? im confused.. tridenti's fav albums or the group coil's best three albums?
for coil, id say two: - love's secret domain - musick to play in the dark (1 and 2)
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 10:49 [#01567190]
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"horse rotorvator"
"love's secret domain"
consult the i ching for the third...
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uzim
on 2005-04-16 10:53 [#01567193]
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depends what/which style(s) you prefer... they have industrial, drone ambient, dark ambient, noise, and a lot of unclassifiable weirdness...
i'd recommend first: • Musick To Play In The Dark, vol.1
and: • Moon's Milk [in four phases]
and then it depends on what you want: • Scatology or Horse Rotorvator, if you like industrial (those are the easiest to get into, by the way)
• Astral Disaster, if you like weird ambientesque music • Time Machines, ANS or Queens Of The Circulating Library, if you like minimal drone ambient (Queens etc. is just one long piece - and with vocals)
• Love's Secret Domain, if you like... uh... {industrial+electro+weird}ness... (IDM fans seem to like this one a lot)
• Constant Shallowness Leads To Evil, if you like noise music (like Merzbow) - this is the only noise album they've made by the way...
• The Remote Viewer which is just totally awesome and unique, if you can picture something like ambient with bagpipes...
• Musick To Play In The Dak, vol.2 - which is as good as vol.1, and resembles to it but through a weird distorted glass/dream (and is much harder to get into)...
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 10:53 [#01567194]
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A Thousand Lights In a Darkened Room Love's Secret Domain Horse Rotorvator Unnatural History series
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uzim
on 2005-04-16 10:54 [#01567196]
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OFF TOPIC!! : P
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-04-16 10:56 [#01567202]
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:)
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-16 11:00 [#01567203]
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thanks
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 11:05 [#01567206]
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"horse rotorvator" isn't particularly "industrial," is it?
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uzim
on 2005-04-16 11:08 [#01567211]
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...and neither does Scatology; it certainly doesn't sound like Ministry or Wumpscut etc, you're right... but that's what they're classified into most of the time, and i can't really find a good description for their sound...
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-16 11:08 [#01567212]
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also anyone know a good place to buy coil cd's? finding it difficult.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 11:10 [#01567217]
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it is basically. their early albums best represent straight-up industrial music, imo. their later works still have that sort of style for sure, but are perhaps equally-influenced by other styles of music (electronic, noise, drone, etc).
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 11:12 [#01567221]
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that's the point - ministry isn't even close to the true definition of industrial music. ministry started out as synth-pop and then metal - very little to do with industrial music. industrial is stuff like throbbing gristle, early ptv, coil, cabaret voltare.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 11:15 [#01567228]
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true, very hard to pin down "horse rotorvator." there's a leonard cohen cover, weird sampling and emulator programming... it's not techno or club oriented, more song and atmosphere oriented, a very unique recording...
when i think industrial, i think abrasive, mechanical, noisy, but "horse rotorvator" comes from a small, quiet and dark candlelit room with no roof and the stars are out...
it's fun to describe the indescribable...
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 11:25 [#01567237]
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i suppose there's a lot of room for opinion, but it seems that coil is called industrial by reputation mostly...
i would agree that "scatology," though unique, fits the industrial bill... but "horse rotorvator" is largely a different animal...
i think individuals who are expecting "industrial" might be surprised when they hear "horse rotorvator."
i think that "twitch" by ministry may be as much industrial as synth pop. maybe i'd prefer to think of "industrial" as a quality and not a style. most "industrial" records incorporate other flavors/qualities/approaches...
on another note, my cat is afraid of the mop and is off to hide under the bed...
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 11:30 [#01567243]
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well, you're right that scatology is more industrial-sounding than horse rotorvator. i still maintain that coil is categorically industrial. they're actually a great example of industrial.
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uzim
on 2005-04-16 11:34 [#01567246]
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em... okay, i suck with genres : )
penexpers: tell me about it... they were already way difficult (and taking way too much time, always months of delay) to buy before world serpent (the distributor) died, but now that world serpent is dead, i guess it's nearly impossible : /
there was Strange Fortune before, but their stock of world serpent releases is nearly empty now...
i have no idea. maybe if you're lucky... otherwise, use soulseek.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 11:49 [#01567256]
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categorically industrial? a great example of industrial? but most of their records have very little in common with what is generally considered "industrial" music. what are the qualities you associate with "industrial"?
again, their identification with "industrial" seems more by reputation than actual musical output...
anyway, off to go drive around in the rain. happy listening!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 12:02 [#01567266]
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i listed a few groups that are industrial music earlier. industrial isn't just a strict aesthetic, it is an art movement. their connection to industrial music is not based on "reputation", it is based on the fact that they made industrial music.
there is an incomplete, glossy definition here *
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-16 14:56 [#01567412]
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there's a pretty big difference between the bulk of music that gets characterized as industrial (Front 242, Ministry, Frontline Assembly, Psychic TV), and the bands who are more or less responsible for it's creation, ie: Throbbing Gristle
i like r40f's idea that it is a little bit more than just certain formal patterns in the music... that said i always just end up thinking of the true innovators and iconoclasts (TG, Coil, Hafler Trio, Foetus, Organum, NWW, Current 93, Zoviet France, etc.) as post-industrial... i guess because they were able to take some of the original aesthetic ideals and bleed them into pretty much any form of music they touched... as for horse rotorvator: seems like an odd mix of maybe something relatively "industrial" and maybe something on the experimental end of goth...? great album anyhow
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 17:46 [#01567706]
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r4of, that link seems to demonstrate that the bulk of coil's output is not "industrial" music at all... a lot of these so-called industrial records i heard at the time they were released. i owned many of those records, and still own some of them. imo, calling "industrial" an art movement is a stretch to say the least.
i still think that coil seems lumped into the label due to their connection to throbbing gristle and some of their first records, a very small portion of their catalog..."love's secret domain," i think, would not be labeled "industrial" if it had been released by an unknown artist on an unknown label. yet there it is on discogs, identified as "industrial."
labels cannot be facts. so we agree to disagree...
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oper4t0r
from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-16 17:47 [#01567708]
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music to poke bums by
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-04-16 17:58 [#01567720]
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So what if they are gay. They made better music than you ever will.
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-17 04:15 [#01567932]
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are coil gay? that puts me off
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k_maty
on 2005-04-17 10:45 [#01568213]
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Windowpane
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uzim
on 2005-04-17 16:39 [#01568478]
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you're put off by their sexuality?!
what a shame.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-04-17 16:41 [#01568481]
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yes.
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2005-04-17 16:49 [#01568485]
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the track Chaostrophy is nice..
otherwise all there newer stuff is pretty fucked up.. very good.
the old albums - there are a couple of nice tracks on every album!
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2005-04-17 17:04 [#01568494]
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You really are a bona fide fuckwit, penexpers. I hope you drown in your own piss somehow.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-04-17 17:41 [#01568519]
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what about operator? where's his share of the wrath?
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-17 18:26 [#01568539]
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"All you other cats throwin' shots at Jigga/ You only get half a bar, fuck y'all, niggaz."
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-17 18:55 [#01568560]
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sorry to offend you deepspace9mm :(
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oper4t0r
from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-18 17:03 [#01569727]
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soft cunty
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-04-18 17:09 [#01569740]
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lippy flaccinator...
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oper4t0r
from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-18 17:24 [#01569767]
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what a gay
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-04-18 17:43 [#01569780]
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what an impotent meat puppet...
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filthywhore
on 2014-01-02 17:46 [#02465628]
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Musick to Play in the Dark Room
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mmiH
on 2014-01-02 17:59 [#02465629]
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worms against nuclear killers
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-03 00:48 [#02465638]
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it displayed a graphic of the mayor of trenton (in the form of an anthropomorphized worm) being run over by a train every time amtrak ran through trenton. also something about some australian band called the oils. good book, that one
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-03 00:51 [#02465639]
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microdermal plasticator
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-03 01:01 [#02465640]
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book online
jesus christ, i had no idea that was julian assange. i remember reading the parts about hiding floppies in a bee hive very clearly, far out to realize that
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mmiH
on 2014-01-03 23:11 [#02465660]
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the infants they smolder
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filthywhore
on 2014-01-13 21:10 [#02465920]
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LAZY_TITLE
This diabolic faggot music is brain melting. And speaking of diabloc faggots, anyone remembers HIM from Powerpuff Girls?
LAZY_TITLE
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betamaxheadroom
on 2014-01-14 01:11 [#02465923]
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you can drag up as many old threads as you like but you will never be part of what made this place so great.
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filthywhore
on 2014-01-15 07:45 [#02465948]
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lol
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2014-01-16 18:22 [#02465997]
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please refrain from digging up old threads just for the lulz...
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-16 19:22 [#02465999]
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LAZY_TITLE
thread's already dug, so here's something nice.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2014-01-16 20:15 [#02466000]
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epic...dude, why not link to the time machines tracks, musick to play in the dark...ANS, Black light district, or something else amazing...instead on this fagtastic crap that isn't work friendly. :(
good to see you again btw.
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