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offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-16 10:30 [#01567171]
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What are his/they're best two or three albums?


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-04-16 10:42 [#01567181]
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BOARDS OF CANADA - [2002] Geogaddi [WARP101]
APHEX TWIN - [1996] Richard D. James Album; Aphex Twin
[WARP43]
PRODIGY - [1997] The Fat Of The Land

they are in random order...



 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-04-16 10:43 [#01567182]
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but i like much also other albums...


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-16 10:47 [#01567187]
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whaa? im confused.. tridenti's fav albums or the group
coil's best three albums?

for coil, id say two:
- love's secret domain
- musick to play in the dark (1 and 2)


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 10:49 [#01567190]
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"horse rotorvator"

"love's secret domain"

consult the i ching for the third...


 

offline uzim on 2005-04-16 10:53 [#01567193]
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depends what/which style(s) you prefer... they have
industrial, drone ambient, dark ambient, noise, and a lot of
unclassifiable weirdness...

i'd recommend first:
• Musick To Play In The Dark, vol.1

and:
• Moon's Milk [in four phases]

and then it depends on what you want:
• Scatology or Horse Rotorvator, if you like industrial
(those are the easiest to get into, by the way)
• Astral Disaster, if you like weird ambientesque music
• Time Machines, ANS or Queens Of The Circulating Library,
if you like minimal drone ambient (Queens etc. is just one
long piece - and with vocals)
• Love's Secret Domain, if you like... uh...
{industrial+electro+weird}ness... (IDM fans seem to like
this one a lot)
• Constant Shallowness Leads To Evil, if you like noise
music (like Merzbow) - this is the only noise album they've
made by the way...
• The Remote Viewer which is just totally awesome and
unique, if you can picture something like ambient with
bagpipes...
• Musick To Play In The Dak, vol.2 - which is as good as
vol.1, and resembles to it but through a weird distorted
glass/dream (and is much harder to get into)...


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 10:53 [#01567194]
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A Thousand Lights In a Darkened Room
Love's Secret Domain
Horse Rotorvator
Unnatural History series


 

offline uzim on 2005-04-16 10:54 [#01567196]
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OFF TOPIC!! : P


 

offline tridenti from Milano (Italy) on 2005-04-16 10:56 [#01567202]
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:)


 

offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-16 11:00 [#01567203]
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thanks


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 11:05 [#01567206]
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"horse rotorvator" isn't particularly "industrial," is it?


 

offline uzim on 2005-04-16 11:08 [#01567211]
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...and neither does Scatology; it certainly doesn't sound
like Ministry or Wumpscut etc, you're right... but that's
what they're classified into most of the time, and i can't
really find a good description for their sound...


 

offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-16 11:08 [#01567212]
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also anyone know a good place to buy coil cd's? finding it
difficult.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 11:10 [#01567217]
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it is basically. their early albums best represent
straight-up industrial music, imo. their later works still
have that sort of style for sure, but are perhaps
equally-influenced by other styles of music (electronic,
noise, drone, etc).


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 11:12 [#01567221]
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that's the point - ministry isn't even close to the true
definition of industrial music. ministry started out as
synth-pop and then metal - very little to do with industrial
music. industrial is stuff like throbbing gristle, early
ptv, coil, cabaret voltare.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 11:15 [#01567228]
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true, very hard to pin down "horse rotorvator." there's a
leonard cohen cover, weird sampling and emulator
programming... it's not techno or club oriented, more song
and atmosphere oriented, a very unique recording...

when i think industrial, i think abrasive, mechanical,
noisy, but "horse rotorvator" comes from a small, quiet and
dark candlelit room with no roof and the stars are out...

it's fun to describe the indescribable...


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 11:25 [#01567237]
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i suppose there's a lot of room for opinion, but it seems
that coil is called industrial by reputation mostly...

i would agree that "scatology," though unique, fits the
industrial bill... but "horse rotorvator" is largely a
different animal...

i think individuals who are expecting "industrial" might be
surprised when they hear "horse rotorvator."

i think that "twitch" by ministry may be as much industrial
as synth pop. maybe i'd prefer to think of "industrial" as
a quality and not a style. most "industrial" records
incorporate other flavors/qualities/approaches...

on another note, my cat is afraid of the mop and is off to
hide under the bed...


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 11:30 [#01567243]
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well, you're right that scatology is more
industrial-sounding than horse rotorvator. i still maintain
that coil is categorically industrial. they're actually a
great example of industrial.


 

offline uzim on 2005-04-16 11:34 [#01567246]
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em... okay, i suck with genres : )


penexpers: tell me about it... they were already way
difficult (and taking way too much time, always months of
delay) to buy before world serpent (the distributor)
died, but now that world serpent is dead, i guess it's
nearly impossible : /

there was Strange Fortune before, but their stock of world
serpent releases is nearly empty now...

i have no idea. maybe if you're lucky...
otherwise, use soulseek.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 11:49 [#01567256]
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categorically industrial? a great example of industrial?
but most of their records have very little in common with
what is generally considered "industrial" music. what are
the qualities you associate with "industrial"?
again, their identification with "industrial" seems more by
reputation than actual musical output...

anyway, off to go drive around in the rain. happy
listening!


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 12:02 [#01567266]
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i listed a few groups that are industrial music earlier.
industrial isn't just a strict aesthetic, it is an art
movement. their connection to industrial music is not based
on "reputation", it is based on the fact that they made
industrial music.

there is an incomplete, glossy definition here
*


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-16 14:56 [#01567412]
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there's a pretty big difference between the bulk of music
that gets characterized as industrial (Front 242, Ministry,
Frontline Assembly, Psychic TV), and the bands who are more
or less responsible for it's creation, ie: Throbbing
Gristle
i like r40f's idea that it is a little bit more than just
certain formal patterns in the music... that said i always
just end up thinking of the true innovators and iconoclasts
(TG, Coil, Hafler Trio, Foetus, Organum, NWW, Current 93,
Zoviet France, etc.) as post-industrial... i guess because
they were able to take some of the original aesthetic ideals
and bleed them into pretty much any form of music they
touched... as for horse rotorvator: seems like an odd mix of
maybe something relatively "industrial" and maybe something
on the experimental end of goth...? great album anyhow


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-16 17:46 [#01567706]
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r4of, that link seems to demonstrate that the bulk of coil's
output is not "industrial" music at all... a lot of these
so-called industrial records i heard at the time they were
released. i owned many of those records, and still own some
of them. imo, calling "industrial" an art movement is a
stretch to say the least.

i still think that coil seems lumped into the label due to
their connection to throbbing gristle and some of their
first records, a very small portion of their
catalog..."love's secret domain," i think, would not be
labeled "industrial" if it had been released by an unknown
artist on an unknown label. yet there it is on discogs,
identified as "industrial."

labels cannot be facts. so we agree to disagree...


 

offline oper4t0r from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-16 17:47 [#01567708]
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music to poke bums by


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-04-16 17:58 [#01567720]
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So what if they are gay. They made better music than you
ever will.


 

offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-17 04:15 [#01567932]
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are coil gay? that puts me off


 

offline k_maty on 2005-04-17 10:45 [#01568213]
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Windowpane


 

offline uzim on 2005-04-17 16:39 [#01568478]
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you're put off by their sexuality?!

what a shame.


 

offline vlari from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-04-17 16:41 [#01568481]
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yes.


 

offline chambre noire from Iceland on 2005-04-17 16:49 [#01568485]
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the track Chaostrophy is nice..

otherwise all there newer stuff is pretty fucked up.. very
good.
the old albums - there are a couple of nice tracks on every
album!



 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2005-04-17 17:04 [#01568494]
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You really are a bona fide fuckwit, penexpers. I hope you
drown in your own piss somehow.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-17 17:41 [#01568519]
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what about operator? where's his share of the wrath?


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-04-17 18:26 [#01568539]
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"All you other cats throwin' shots at Jigga/ You only get
half a bar, fuck y'all, niggaz."


 

offline penexpers from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-17 18:55 [#01568560]
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sorry to offend you deepspace9mm :(


 

offline oper4t0r from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-18 17:03 [#01569727]
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soft cunty


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-18 17:09 [#01569740]
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lippy flaccinator...


 

offline oper4t0r from OS 1.1 on 2005-04-18 17:24 [#01569767]
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what a gay


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-04-18 17:43 [#01569780]
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what an impotent meat puppet...


 

offline filthywhore on 2014-01-02 17:46 [#02465628]
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Musick to Play in the Dark Room


 

offline mmiH on 2014-01-02 17:59 [#02465629]
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worms against nuclear killers


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-03 00:48 [#02465638]
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it displayed a graphic of the mayor of trenton (in the form
of an anthropomorphized worm) being run over by a train
every time amtrak ran through trenton. also something about
some australian band called the oils. good book, that one


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-03 00:51 [#02465639]
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microdermal plasticator


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-03 01:01 [#02465640]
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book online

jesus christ, i had no idea that was julian assange. i
remember reading the parts about hiding floppies in a bee
hive very clearly, far out to realize that


 

offline mmiH on 2014-01-03 23:11 [#02465660]
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the infants they smolder


 

offline filthywhore on 2014-01-13 21:10 [#02465920]
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LAZY_TITLE

This diabolic faggot music is brain melting. And speaking of
diabloc faggots, anyone remembers HIM from Powerpuff Girls?
LAZY_TITLE


 

offline betamaxheadroom on 2014-01-14 01:11 [#02465923]
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you can drag up as many old threads as you like but you will
never be part of what made this place so great.


 

offline filthywhore on 2014-01-15 07:45 [#02465948]
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lol


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2014-01-16 18:22 [#02465997]
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please refrain from digging up old threads just for the
lulz...


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2014-01-16 19:22 [#02465999]
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LAZY_TITLE

thread's already dug, so here's something nice.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2014-01-16 20:15 [#02466000]
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epic...dude, why not link to the time machines tracks,
musick to play in the dark...ANS, Black light district, or
something else amazing...instead on this fagtastic crap that
isn't work friendly. :(

good to see you again btw.


 


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