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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-03-08 15:04 [#01525930]
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hahahah I love him. Not in a gay way.
I've grown fond of his hilarious shenanigans and in the last episode I felt really sorry for him (with the hair in the cinema).
"terrorists are gay, terrorists are gay"
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-03-08 15:06 [#01525933]
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Keep it chopped out, yeah?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-03-08 15:06 [#01525934]
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you're an idiot
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 15:06 [#01525935]
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sigh
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-08 15:07 [#01525936]
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shenanigans
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 15:10 [#01525938]
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are you real raz0rblade_uk? sometimes you seem so clueless it's hard to believe you exist
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2005-03-08 15:24 [#01525947]
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i think Nathan Barley is jusy OK. Nathan is good and the last episode i did feel genuinly sorry for him,
im watching Day Today just now, fuck i wish morris would do another satire spoof
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2005-03-08 15:26 [#01525953]
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ps avatar looks stunnin horse
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-03-08 15:31 [#01525956]
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I'm in a bit of an odd mood this evening
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-03-08 15:35 [#01525959]
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clueless? hahha
I feel all silly now.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2005-03-08 15:36 [#01525960]
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never seen it
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-03-08 15:40 [#01525969]
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who on earth is nathan barley and why is raz0rblade "an idiot" and "clueless" for liking him?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-03-08 15:44 [#01525973]
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It's a friday night alternative sitcom shown on channel 4 at 10:35. I find it funny.
LAZY_TITLE
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-03-08 15:51 [#01525982]
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i don't think the others like it very much...
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2005-03-08 15:52 [#01525983]
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i don't know this lad... never heard of him. :) strange moods are nice once in a while... it's needed
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-03-08 15:53 [#01525985]
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look at this for more information
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-03-08 15:57 [#01525988]
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"you're an idiot" - nathan barley is an "idiot". the program is about "idiots". you idiot.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 15:59 [#01525990]
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it's great but i don't think the idea is that you sympathise with barley
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2005-03-08 16:00 [#01525991]
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there i was thinking you were blatantly calling him an idiot.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-03-08 16:07 [#01526002]
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I'm sure this isn't what you were saying, but feeling sorry for a character you are 'supposed' to hate just means either (a) you're not strictly supposed to hate him all the time, or (b) the tv making people did bad. Yes?
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-03-08 16:09 [#01526005]
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I've think they've just been a bit clever that's all.
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2005-03-08 16:13 [#01526008]
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yaiiiiiiiiiKS..... A wize old Japanese merchant once said........
"Ton kalido makawasi shimoda"... which means..... mmmmmmmm "absolutely no fucking idea"
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-03-08 16:19 [#01526014]
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i was meaning to say that to the horsefactory due to his sighing.
I havent seen the episode your talking about yet, but I think if he was to be a realistic character of an idiot you would obviously feel sorry for him sometimes.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 16:37 [#01526042]
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but i don't see him as a realistic character, he seems more of an exaggeration of, umm, loads of shit things - i'm not saying that because a character is portrayed as an idiot you should never sympathise with them - for example i find programmes like alan partridge or marion & geoff relatable and even profound at times - it's just that with nathan barley, especially considering the episodes of 'cunt' from tvgohome, i get the impression that he's supposed to represent everything the creators find hateful and not have any redeeming features, anyway, i'm really tired, and i'm talking rubbish, so i'll go to bed
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 16:43 [#01526047]
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isnt he just a pisstake of the whole "fashion" crowd?
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 16:43 [#01526048]
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there was a fashion show at my work tonight. i think "fahion show" is secret code for "anorexic parade"
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-03-08 16:44 [#01526049]
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If he finds the character sympathetic ergot he's the same sort of cunt. Easy.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-03-08 16:49 [#01526055]
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don't be so quick to call sumeone a cunt for sympathising with a fictional character.
I find the character of Nathan Barley funny because of the way people react around him. He's so desperate to be 'cool' and 'with it' that's it's pathetic. And when he gets it wrong you feel sorry for him because he becomes like a naive child.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-03-08 16:55 [#01526063]
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Read properly what Horsefactory said, the character is a gross exaggeration. If you view the programme on a "soap opera" level you're as fucked as Barley.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-03-08 17:01 [#01526077]
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that i agree with.
a clear misunderstanding. slap my thigh
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-03-08 17:07 [#01526079]
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Haha. Twot.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-03-08 17:10 [#01526084]
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That sounds horribly arrogant to me. I agree that the Cunt tv listings suggested he is a worthless fuck withy no redeeming features and I sort of expected the programme to be like that, but it really isn't. I don't think you can make a show about a guy who is completely dispicable, you can't just watch someone being a pathetic cunt every week and not feel some sympathy, especially because I think everyone without exception will probably see quite a lot of the actions of Nathan Barley and think, fucking hell I'm almost as bad as he is.
For example, Nathan Barley might be found watching a programme a few times, assuming he is the target audience and hence fully understands it above and beyond anyone who shows any difference of opinion, and then ranting about how other people are idiots.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-03-08 17:13 [#01526087]
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I'm with Dann_
in fact i'm all over the shop
but i'm mostly with Dann_
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-03-08 17:15 [#01526092]
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I'm off to bed, night all!
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 17:44 [#01526116]
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I don't think you can make a show about a guy who is completely dispicable
probably not, and you'd have a point if he was the sole focus of the program, but there are loads of other things going on that mean you're not just watching someone being a pathetic cunt every week.
you can equate me to nathan barley with as many fictitious, overblown examples as you like, but if you watch the episode this thread is about you'll see how obviously you're supposed to sympathise with him, only to see him go back to being the same cunt as usual seconds afterward, which is why i don't think he's meant to be anything more than a gross exaggeration.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-03-08 17:48 [#01526119]
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If you think "fucking hell, I'm as bad as he is" you're a cunt. And, by your logic, you'd agree you're a cunt. Whether that makes you a bigger cunt that the most MAHOOSIVE CUNT that ever was I don't know, but if you're trying to make out that by knowing you're a cunt you're less of a cunt, I'd have to tell you you're sadly mistaken.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-03-08 18:11 [#01526156]
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hold your horses
i thought ashcroft is the centre of the program, not barley. barley fits in, barley has mates, ashcroft refuses to be an idiot, he is the loner, he is the sane. he got caught playing cock muff bumhole, all his facial expressions are of confusion, uncertainty being in the vast minority, questioning his own sanity. we've all been there, i certainly have.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-03-08 18:18 [#01526166]
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Isn't it interesting that even though it's given on a plate you still get the twats that think they're "in on it" missing it by a fucking mile. Isn't that... THAT.... genius....
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-03-08 18:20 [#01526169]
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you both makes goods points.
horsefactory - I will have to watch that episode... if as you say you feel sorry for him only realise it was misplaced because he is a 'moneyed shit' then there should be no problem that razorblade felt sorry for him and then we're both right aren't we?
dog_belch - I have to disagree. IMHOtep you are missing the point, I don't think this is supposed to yield a triumphant 'I'm a better person than him!' reaction at all and it should probably be a discouraging journey into 'I'm as much of a cunt as everyone else'. I thought this was illustrated by introducing Barley as an idiot and then showing him saying other people are idiots.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-03-08 18:24 [#01526171]
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You really are as fucked as Barley, if not fuckder.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-03-08 18:29 [#01526178]
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i get it everytime i step out the fucking front door. whoever said 'ignorance is bliss' is a genius.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-03-08 18:41 [#01526189]
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i've had better discussions with a fistful of shit
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adam
from londonidium (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 19:04 [#01526227]
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"Isn't it interesting that even though it's given on a plate
you still get the twats that think they're "in on it" missing it by a fucking mile. Isn't that... THAT.... genius.... "
Nearly, except it's that you're one of the twats too. And so on..
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-03-09 09:46 [#01526904]
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I think the main character is Dan, not N. Barley.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-03-09 09:53 [#01526918]
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its ok, quite funny. i like his mcing when he was about to muff dive that girl. that was funny.
i think its too stupid funny ment to be crap but really wants to be clever funny in a stupid clever funny way.
id rather watch basketball and call everyone little bitch and squeak
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-03-09 09:54 [#01526922]
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and by baskeball i of course mean BASEketball
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-09 12:10 [#01527243]
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"i think its too stupid funny ment to be crap but really
wants to be clever funny in a stupid clever funny way."
..what?
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-03-09 13:53 [#01527338]
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oh come on
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-10 20:43 [#01528998]
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I just saw an episode.
I can truthfully say that I would like to hit every character in this programme squarely in the face, except maybe Dan (who does indeed seem to be the real lead character).
and Nathan Barley truly is a cunt, nothing more.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-03-15 08:11 [#01533622]
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It's shit.
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