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offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-17 11:54 [#01502618]
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i haven't listened to draft in a real long time, but i dug
it out just to compare the two, and i must say that i have
no idea why some people find it hard to belive that leak 1
(the long version) is fake. what's the difference there??
it's like it was the same album almost..ahh


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-17 11:55 [#01502621]
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I am in complete agreement with you.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-17 11:55 [#01502622]
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I'm kind of surprised to see you obsessing over all this
ae-malarky.


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-02-17 11:56 [#01502623]
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(winks / chuckles / prayers)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-17 11:58 [#01502627]
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i sometimes surprise myself..but im really interested in
hearing some opinions on this, because as hard as i try i
can't find much difference..


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-02-17 11:59 [#01502629]
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I think thats the point.
leak version 1 is old material.
:)


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-17 11:59 [#01502631]
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Is it because someone's sampled bits out of Draft and messed
about with it and called it Untilted?


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-17 11:59 [#01502632]
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ban him


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-17 12:00 [#01502635]
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i see..that'd be nice!


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-02-17 12:00 [#01502639]
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ban who?



 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-17 12:01 [#01502644]
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i wonder what made them call it untilted? i'm guessing that
it's not a reference to my minature snooker table i had as a
kid


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-17 12:03 [#01502645]
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ha.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-17 12:06 [#01502647]
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what made me bring this up is people saying untilted is way
too simplistic to be autechre see and saying how much more
complex was draft. i beg your pardon?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-17 12:09 [#01502649]
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I have no idea. I haven't listened to either leaks.

I'll wait for the real thing, as in: not in mp3-form.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-17 12:09 [#01502650]
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I, for one, amd more interested in the implications of
supposed fakes seeded onto the peer to peer networks and
fueled/mutated on messageboards, than the actual music
itself.

Very interesting techno-socio observations! I am anxious to
see how it unfolds.



 

offline cx from Norway on 2005-02-17 12:11 [#01502653]
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qrter wanna fuck


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-17 12:12 [#01502654]
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well that sjort version was obviously fake..very
amateurish..but im sure this long version is real...im not
concerned either way really as there's plenty of other music
i can listen to, it's just that i usually go with the board
hype :)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-17 12:14 [#01502657]
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nerd.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-17 12:15 [#01502658]
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whore!


 

offline gl0tch from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-02-17 12:19 [#01502666]
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I think pomme knows something we don't know.
Pomme de terre speaks to Phobiazero who speaks to Sean and
Rob.

Usually less then 3 degrees of separation can confirm
something substantial, right?


 

offline nacmat on 2005-02-17 12:19 [#01502667]
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how many leaks are there?

are they diferent albums? so some of them are surely fakes
then


 

offline Archrival on 2005-02-17 12:20 [#01502668]
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leak one can be AE, but then I like draft 7.30 much more.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-17 12:20 [#01502670]
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.


Attached picture

 

offline epohs from )C: on 2005-02-17 12:20 [#01502672]
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yeah, the sorta guerilla advertising type stuff that they're
getting from this is neat.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-17 12:23 [#01502676]
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two, but one is quite obviously fake, although they used the
songs from the leak one. first leak is definitely autechre,
be it their old music or the new album. personally im almost
certain its the real untilted.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-17 12:23 [#01502677]
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I know nothing


 

offline nacmat on 2005-02-17 12:28 [#01502681]
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loopz has some nice opinions on this in his forum


 

offline Archrival on 2005-02-17 12:34 [#01502686]
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whos loopz? link please



 

offline mrgypsum on 2005-02-17 12:35 [#01502689]
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i see bush!


 

offline nacmat on 2005-02-17 12:43 [#01502691]
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loopz is the admin of the best orbital webpage

go to forums and then go to the music forum, the thread is
up there in first page and its called:

Autechre - new album and tour in 2005



 

offline nacmat on 2005-02-17 12:44 [#01502695]
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"yeah i believe it is. I've listened to all of it and i'm a
tad confused as whether to believe i am listening to the new
autechre album or someone who has created quite a convincing
fake.

The problems i have with the album (and remember this is
just one listen).

1) Its mainly rhythmic and to the point where there is
nothing but that! Some may say this is typical Autechre but
really it isnt if u actually listen to Autechre deeply
(strokes chin). There is always some melody underneath even
if the melody may be fragmented big time! :)

2) There are noticeable samples from Draft 7.30 within a
couple of tracks. Autechre have sampled old works but this
appears to be a poor mans kind of sampling and doesnt really
add anything. i'm not explaining myself very good here but
it was noticeable which makes me doubt.

3) Everything seems too loop driven. Ok so we all know
Autechre are loop driven but they tend to make their loops
very long and they interchange a lot. These tracks contain
very noticeable loops and make it more accessible (this is
why Stimpee probably enjoyed it :P ).

4) It sounds like a jam. Its the kind of thing i would
expect to hear in a live environment. Not a bad thing but i
wudnt expect Autechre to release this kind of thing.

Someone mentioned elsewhere that this release is either

1) a good new Autechre album
2) a good fake Autechre album
3) a bad new Autechre album
4) a bad fake Autechre album

On one listen i am geared towards number 2 because it doesnt
sound bad but there is a lot missing that i would expect
Autechre to do. Long tracks are normally 3/4 minutes of
random builds until it comes together and then of course
they sometimes mash it up again (like Draft!). We have
plenty of builds but nothing that gels and in fact there
tends to be two or three parts to most tracks.

...


 

offline nacmat on 2005-02-17 12:45 [#01502697]
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"...

anyway within time we shall see if this is legit or not. Its
worthy of a download before the release. If it IS Autechres
album then i wud say that we have gone back one step as
there is just not enough in the album apart from some
interesting (scratches chin again) beats :)

Be interested to hear what others think when they hear it
:)"


 

offline nacmat on 2005-02-17 12:45 [#01502699]
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those two posts are a the pasted post of loopz at his site


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-17 12:56 [#01502706]
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boy will he be badly surprised when he finally gets the
album..


 

offline Chihiro from twins land on 2005-02-17 13:14 [#01502732]
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I think that autechre are at their best now ...
Considering all their releases... It's been getting better,
more technical, etc... In my opinion, if there would be a
time to be at their peak.. It would be now.. Untilted will
be rich in everything ... I can't wait.



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-02-18 07:14 [#01502935]
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offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-02-18 07:18 [#01502941]
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its ae. not untilted.


 

offline nacmat on 2005-02-18 08:29 [#01503092]
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why?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-02-18 08:30 [#01503093]
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well, becaue im 99% sure that leak one is the real untilted.


 

offline Combo from Sex on 2005-02-18 09:34 [#01503236]
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i'm sure it's a fake


 

offline Sire from the depths (Finland) on 2005-02-18 09:40 [#01503242]
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Oh I just love the wait


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-02-18 10:15 [#01503312]
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"leak" "untitled" "fake" these words make me ill. another
wanking untitled thread. Sir Tolstoyed, You don't really
like Autechre, do You.
I'd expect a more interesting topic from You !
Make one NOW !


 


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